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MLM Bot Watch 72 - We are watching you bots and we have the screenshots …

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YouOKHun · 19/07/2022 22:48

Eagerly awaiting the start of term at Scamversity - eek!

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BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 19:25

SnoogyWoo · 13/09/2022 18:31

I think castle pinned her hopes on getting a 1000 plus signing up. Has she gone quiet about the Air BNB? I bet fierce had a word with her about that, doesn’t look good when you are flogging courses on the back of being a multi millionaire but telling everyone you are living in a motor home at the weekend while you let your house out lol.

It reminds me of Weird Willy who professes to be a seven-figure coach yet he’s still driving a delivery van for a living.

Spongebobette · 13/09/2022 19:28

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 18:57

scamversity are seeking accreditation to reflect their content is world class and are developing a secret button on their website for next year so lock in mow before the price goes up

you couldn’t make it up

That’s another nice grift to be in - ‘accrediting’ things

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 19:46

I see Brooklyn Beckham was wearing a scamversity style jacket at a vogue catwalk
perhaps they could sign him up as an ambassador

MLM Bot Watch 72 - We are watching you bots and we have the screenshots …
Norma27 · 13/09/2022 19:46

i really do not understand yawn’s exercise videos. They are just her randomly laughing at her dogs.

SnoogyWoo · 13/09/2022 20:03

How the mighty have fallen with Yawn trying to flog gloop by performing crappy fitness videos with no qualifications.
Castle looks stressed in that live. Imagine pinning your hopes on your big scamversity launch and it not bringing in the revenue you hoped but you still have to deliver a massive nearly year long course for peanuts. Can’t see her lasting at that, wonder what the excuse will be in the end?

Spongebobette · 13/09/2022 21:07

Yes I’ve been wondering about her programme. Presumably they’ve promised ‘courses’ etc from now till June (followed by a graduation ceremony?)

A few self study busy work booklets that they’ve cobbled together won’t last that long

at what point do the ‘students’ realise that they have not become NWM millionaires?

Angrymum22 · 13/09/2022 21:41

So is sounds like they are also setting up their own accreditation company so they can accredit new graduates with shiny accreditation credentials. Oh what fun.
Why does it have to be a secret? Oh yes it’s a hook for the gullible.

BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 21:42

Charge peanuts, attract monkeys Snoggywoo. Looks like it’s not just network marketing that’s a monkey-see monkey-do business.

Sponge, surely graduating after a just a year would be a bit premature for a degree in alleged entrepreneurial studies? That said it might be a year-long diploma (Dip.Shit), an MBA (Master of Bugger All) or a standalone elective in Arse-Elbow Differentiation (module 1: if you can lick either it’s neither, unless it’s not yours).

BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 21:48

Angrymum22 · 13/09/2022 21:41

So is sounds like they are also setting up their own accreditation company so they can accredit new graduates with shiny accreditation credentials. Oh what fun.
Why does it have to be a secret? Oh yes it’s a hook for the gullible.

That’s like network marketing companies / MLMs crowing about being members of the Direct Selling Association to make them sound legitimate, trustworthy and totally above board. It’s more like the the equivalent of Dracula running a blood bank!

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 22:47

I see castle is jetting off, perhaps house hunting on a slightly more reduced budget than she planned.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 23:05

Fierce is saying ‘join us because we’re nice’ there’s a list of unsatisfied customers from her previous ventures who would beg to disagree !

I’d say Castle can’t be bothered any more. She wants to look at shiny new houses (that she can’t afford)

Ie Mr Castle still printing t-shirts?
Im suprised that castle hasn’t designed some scamuniversity stationary to rinse the students and Mr Castle printing a scamuniversity hoodie.

BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 23:26

Will graduates wear sashes instead of usual academic dress at their graduation? Imagine them throwing their pro-planners in the air instead of mortarboards for a photo at the end. Does that sort of thing ever happen in England?

BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 23:27

FloellaDeVille · 12/09/2022 21:16

Interesting post on Freshers Week page... wonder if it will stay up...

Is it still there @FloellaDeVille ?

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 23:37

What is the post

BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 23:56

There’s a screenshot of it on Floella’s post on the previous page - it looks like someone’s pulling their chain!

Ohnonevermind · 14/09/2022 00:07

Thanks - I missed it the other day. Very funny

YouOKHun · 14/09/2022 00:22

BSintolerant · 13/09/2022 12:42

What would the ASA think?

I’ve just submitted a report to them along with screen shots, emails, video footage. They don’t feed back to a person submitting a complaint but C&F have committed so many crimes that come under the ASA remit that I don’t see how they can ignore it.

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FloellaDeVille · 14/09/2022 07:00

The comment on the post is still there, along with the comment that she is still paying off the credit card bill from Fierce's coaching. But it was SO worth it. Apparently.

Spongebobette · 14/09/2022 08:15

I cannot adequately express how much I despise these absolute scammers

Ohnonevermind · 14/09/2022 08:48

Castle is off house shopping in the sun, three days into scamversity and she’s off for a new shiny toy

she said she was going to buy mum and dads place first (clearly with their money)
the irony is her parents are at home looking after her kids while she’s shopping for their house with their money and her mum will be ‘so grateful’

Twentytwentyhindsight · 14/09/2022 08:53

I agree @Spongebobette But I have to admit that my sympathy for those taken in and who somehow still have not seen through the BS is wearing a bit thin.

I don't see Scamversity surviving much past the next round of 'tuition fees' payments.

As others have said here, even the higher estimates of mugs undergraduates enrolled will barely cover the operating expenses of C,F and their various hangers on.

Others have also rightly said that this is as good as it gets for them.

From now on, those foolish enough to part with their first £39 payment will get to see exactly what this pays for, and it certainly isn't going to represent any sort of value.

Many will have joined on the back of the manufactured hype and on the repeated promises (prompted by some judicious questions about the Ts&Cs asked by some heroes on this thread) that they could pull out at any time.

All but the most botted (and for them, frankly, there is little hope) will decide that they cannot afford to carry on paying for something that is patently recycled bilge that is of no benefit to them.

This is where it will get interesting.

At best, Scamversity with its current 'cohort' is barely keeping C,F and Co. afloat.

If a significant number decide to leave (and they will), C&F are left with a loss making operation and will fold immediately, invoking all sorts of reasons that are outside their control.

They will therefore be tempted to invoke the terms & conditions to intimidate the leavers into continuing to pay. However, a strategy that worked for Fierce when she was working with much smaller numbers of 'high value' victims, will be much harder to implement on a large group. Sure, they will try to isolate the victims to make them feel they have no choice but to continue to pay, but there will be 'leakage' and the risk is that a number of them might coalesce to resist and remind each other of the assurances they were repeatedly given- this would be a nightmare scenario for C&F and could get them in very deep doo-doo.

Is it worth the risk for them to carry on with what will essentially have turned into an extortion racket, with each victim only worth £39 a month, but representing an ever increasing threat of it blowing up in their faces and facing severe penal sanctions?

Given that they are barely afloat now, at what will be the best of times for them, I think they will cut and run.

The fallout between C&F will be worth getting out the popcorn for, as they will inevitably blame each other publicly for the collapse of Scamversity (and privately for the failure of the scam).

Fierce will probably limp on with her other dodgy ventures, but it won't leave Castle with many places to go. She has maintained her dwindling momentum by carrying with her a few followers from her FL glory days, but even for them, the polish on the turd will have worn off.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 14/09/2022 09:02

@Ohnonevermind I think that Castle flitting off to spend her parents' money at this stage is an indication that she realises Scamversity is already doomed.

We all know that she has absolutely no staying power, and she will be even less inclined to 'work' at delivering for her 'students' knowing that it will not be keeping her in the style she expects (or any style at all...).

Spongebobette · 14/09/2022 09:04

Excellent post @Twentytwentyhindsight

one thing is for certain; nothing will be Castle’s fault. It will be liars and haters and people letting her down and not believing enough

there will be a small number of students who are willing to pay a monthly fee so they can pretend she is their friend. Eg Nurse who will feel she is included in the cool girls’ club

Ohnonevermind · 14/09/2022 09:06

I can’t imagine she will make the income she expects from air bnb either

her parents wanted their own place but they won’t be able to afford 2 flash places so I’m guessing castle will buy one flash one and her parents will end up in a shed in the garden

Twentytwentyhindsight · 14/09/2022 09:21

I envisage a scenario where Castle spends whatever's left of her parents cash on a place in Spain that she will move into, while her parents remain in the shed to service the Airbnb that she hopes will provide the income to live on.

I suspect the maths are based on a totally fanciful figure for the rental.

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