MLM Bot Watch 70!

[MarchXX]

New fred...

I’m not trying to be facetious (hold the front page!) but how on earth has Broke managed to afford a trip to Turkey for new gnashers?

Castles BFF has just posted this. She's the last person who should be doing that 4 day rubbish. I'm not out to body shame anyone, god knows I can shame myself! But her face is gaunt. She needs to eat sensibly to build muscle not starve on stupid tablets and 660ml of aloe a day

"I've lost too much weight since my
sickness bug after my hols…I initially lost 11lb in 5 days I can't wait to start my 4 day detox to get me focused on better habits and properly fueling my body with what it needs to build
muscle"

It is quite scary to be fair, do they realise the message they are sending out with these faddy starvation diets.

What one needs to build muscle, is a LOT of calories, and to be in a calorie surplus. Only then have you built muscle, can you look to start cutting down the body fat. It is a very tricky and balanced approach. There is no way one could build muscle on that huge calorie deficit, she will lose lean muscle mass in the droves.

Who ever thought up the DX4 should be held accountable.

I'm pretty sure that there was something that came in a few years ago which means you can't promote a product/system as being a detox. I'm sure I remember being told that distributors should stop saying Clean 9 was a detox system.

So... this new one, they really need to be careful what they are saying. (They brand really does infer it's a detox, I think that's pretty dodgy though no doubt they've made sure they are the right side of the line).

I've just had a quick look at the ASA website shows clearly that if distributors make a detox claim then that would count as a health claim... So BFF etc are sailing very close to the wind.

www.asa.org.uk/advice-online/detoxing-general.html

... and any signs of cheques?
How very odd indeed. The top bots are usually shouting their cheque amounts from the rooftops. It's almost as if they are ashamed/want to hide the truth....

News from USA - (from Dr Stephen Barrett's Quackwatch email)

Forever Living accused of making deceptive income claims.

TruthInAdvertising.org (TINA) has filed a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission against Arizona-based multilevel marketing (MLM) company Forever Living Products International, LLC. The complaint was made after TINA collected more than 5,500 income claims for distributors made by the company. Although the company claims there is “HUGE EARNING POTENTIAL,” 89% of its distributors earned absolutely nothing, according to the company’s income-disclosure statement. TINA believes that the FTC can fine the company more than $250 million for its deceptive earnings claims and undisclosed influencer ads through its Penalty Offense Authority. [Forever Living’s neverending deceptive income claims. TINA.org, May 4, 2022]

truthinadvertising.org/articles/forever-livings-neverending-deceptive-income-claims/

(BTW: Keep up the good work, mumsnet huns! :) )

Also:

Major MLM consumer-protection webinar scheduled
On June 10 and 11, the College of New Jersey School of Business will hold its second annual conference to spotlight consumer protection and consumer harm in the MLM industry. This virtual conference, titled “Multilevel Marketing: The Consumer Protection Challenge,” will bring together an international array of federal regulators, experienced prosecutors, trial lawyers, researchers, academics, award-winning journalists, former MLM distributors, consumer-protection experts (including Stephen Barrett, M.D.), and social-media activists. The program will span about seven hours each day. Attendance is free and open to the public, but space is limited and registration is required. Early registration is advisable. To register or find out more, visit www.mlmconference.com.

@xenu1 - Brilliant news re-FLP, thanks for the heads up!

Thx! I was on this thread yonks ago. (We had an Amway-bot at work in the 90s and I was fascinated - and repelled - by how the MLM scam operates.)

My reading of it is this:
Broke was at the head of the Lynch mob that targeted the pretty hapless fall guy for the crypto Ponzi that collapsed with credible threats to his and his innocent relatives of his (unfortunately because of otherwise well-intentioned work by Behind MLM)
As such, he was able to extort a 'refund' for himself and his 'downlines'.
However, he has convinced his downlines that he did not get all of their money back and has kept some if not all to himself, hence the large platters of 'Spoons food, the trip to Spain with the kids, the smoker's jaunt to 'Dam and the new gnashers in Turkey.

Woah, these new teeth might not last long then as I can imagine a queue forming to greet him off the plane "asking where their money is" using their fists

I think most of those who's money he 'didn't manage to get back' have swallowed his line that 'the bad guys have it'. That seems to be the premise he's working on, anyway...

Broke seems to have deleted the video of him being an utter twat. He really is insufferable.

Broke has also bought a Volvo.....

Also Yawn has filtered herself into the unrecognisable on her FB post

I’m not trying to be facetious (hold the front page!) but how on earth has Broke managed to afford a trip to Turkey for new gnashers?

@BSintolerant I'm guessing pushing drugs

Yes, it is not often I wish I'll on someone, but for him to get banged up in Turkey and have his new teeth rearranged by angry mugs on his release and return to the U.K. would be no more than poetic justice.

The new FL product is a pile of shite. Surely people in general are more aware of the complete fallacy that detox programmes are these days. I would hope?

Her face shape and neck on today's post is completely different to, for example, the holiday shots where she was showing us her daily outfit in front of the mirror.

Arghhh just saw the photo of Brooke's tooth pegs

Hope you can work on unseeing it before bedtime.

Looks like Uber needs to invest in one of Castle's planners as she forgot her builders husband's birthday.

I've had a good look at the product description on the flp website for this new product. Although the use of DX in the name is clearly designed to imply "detox" , it's referred to as a body balancing system. There is absolutely no mention of detoxification. (As that would be a health claim, which is a no-no)....

However, all the bots (well, the ones I've seen using and promiting it) are using the words detox and detoxification. It's on the infographic Yawn is sharing. So where is that all coming from? (After all, they seem to be copying and sharing). They (especially the high up ones) should be amply aware that making health claims is not allowed. It's going to land one or more of them in hot water at some point as it's bound to be reported to the ASA by someone at some point.

Of course, FLP themselves will be squeaky clean as they themselves make no mention of the forbidden words, and they make it clear to bots that they cannot make health claims. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard bots make very dubious health claims though, head office must be more than aware that it happens... after all it helps shift product. But if the shit hits the proverbial, they'll presumably hang the bots out to dry and say they acted against instructions.

... to add - I looked at the FLP shop for the USA and there the description for DX4 includes the words "removes toxins". In the GP shop that description is missing.

They're extremely careful, FLP. Sadly, their bots are not so. They're sharing info that isn't permitted under UK regulations. But I bet whoever gave it to them "forgot" to tell them that...

Not been on much as I thought Covid would have seen them off. They all do rinse & repeat which is boring. Whilst many businesses have adapted they have the same old same old.
The FL trip was dismal (few photos)and it’s back to business ,not even a cheque to cheer us up. That’s FL sorted anything about any other motley crews a.k.a MLMs?

One of the main draws of FL was the huge poster girl cheques to lure in lower level bots.

Remove that, and the system starts to unravel very quickly, like taking the jackpot out of the lottery. The dream board, slowly starts to look less realistic.

I see FL dying over the coming years for sure, Covid, gave them a shot in the arm, however, that are had already died.

Any ideas on the cheque amounts? Be good to compare years.