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Are there any regular people left in London?

65 replies

Psychgrad · 01/01/2022 09:19

I moved to London 6 years ago (from another country) and struggle to meet likeminded people. Currently I’m living in an affluent part of London but my lease is up soon and I’m open to living somewhere more normal. It seems most people I meet have grown up here, went to private school, followed all the social rules like going to university, focusing on career, getting married, having children in that order- as a result they all live very wealthy lifestyles now. I’m more of a floaty, creative person and as a result have had my fair share of financial hardships. I’m obviously aware that there is a lot of poverty here too but where are the regular people? What about the struggling artsy types who I always used to meet in my hometown? What about teachers and nurses who typically have normal income? I’d like to make some friends with people who had a similar upbringing to me. I grew up in quite a disadvantaged area, did well for myself eventually but still don’t earn anything compared to my London friends. There’s times when I’m broke and then there’s times I feel I’m doing well. As much as I love my friends here, I find it hard to be fully understood by them and would like to mix with more interesting people. Even the original working class areas in London have a huge rich/ poor divide and I think I’d still struggle to find people who are middle of the road. I don’t feel I fit in anywhere in London as I’m not ‘posh’ but I’m not really working class either. It seems people here either have crazy high salaries or they are really in poverty. Maybe I’m over generalizing but that’s how I feel. I have tried to meet people from all walks of life by volunteering etc but it seems so hard to meet people who are sort of low- middle income in London.

OP posts:
chipsarnie · 01/01/2022 12:43

"just wonder if there’s anyone like me here."

There are 9 million people in London.

Yes, is the answer.

"As much as I love my friends here, I find it hard to be fully understood by them and would like to mix with more interesting people."

Er, OK.

chipsarnie · 01/01/2022 12:43

Walthamstow = The Poundland Leytonstone.

ToastCrumbsOnAPlate · 01/01/2022 12:43

@TheYearOfSmallThings well done to Walthamstow! Maybe I was in a particularly bad part , I lived right where Leyton meets Walthamstow in 1997 and there were lots of vacant pubs , high crime and shootings reported weekly. I felt genuinely unsafe there if I'm honest.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 01/01/2022 12:57

there were lots of vacant pubs , high crime and shootings reported weekly.

These days we have allotments, yoga, craft breweries, pocket parks and roaming herds of creatives alongside the occasional stabbings.

ToastCrumbsOnAPlate · 01/01/2022 12:59

@TheYearOfSmallThings nice , so it has a creative vibe now. It's always good to hear that parts of East London are doing well. I do love living here.

TedMullins · 01/01/2022 13:17

Where are you in SE? I live in SE and have met a diverse collection of people here from recovering alcoholics living in a halfway house round the corner to me, to people who live on council estates, to gentrifying types moving here because the big houses are cheaper. I earn a decent salary but I come from a poor background, state school, I don't have a degree as I dropped out, I'm arty. I'd be friends with you!

irene9 · 02/01/2022 00:04

Sounds like you are doing a lot of comparing yourself with others. As suggested I think you could try connecting with people through other values and passions rather than upbringing, class or current wealth. Currently you are looking at yourself through a lens. That's not 'relating'. You seem to be rejecting people based on your criteria, but really I wonder is it you trying to find ways to intellectualise everything because you get scared when people get close to you.
Joining clubs with shared interests or connecting with others through volunteering might bear fruit for you and provide more meaningful relationships.

SummerLew · 02/01/2022 00:55

Where in SE London are you? I'm in Lewisham borough and it's very mixed around here.

RedCandyApple · 02/01/2022 01:37

I live in the Greenwich borough and it’s full of “Normal” people

SquirrelG · 02/01/2022 06:42

Maybe get a non floaty job with a more regular predictable income???

What an uphelpful comment! I'm sure if OP wanted a non floaty job she would get one - and having a "regular predictable income" isn't the be all and end all.

Turmerictolly · 02/01/2022 08:21

Live in Deptford.

nongnangning · 02/01/2022 08:35

Another vote for NE or SE London.
I agree with PPs who said Wood Green, Tottenham, Tooting, Balham etc

Luredbyapomegranate · 02/01/2022 09:02

@dreamingbohemian

That hasn't been my experience of London at all, I have a wide range of friends here and almost none like you describe. I also lived in Brixton, how did you only meet posh people there?? This makes me think the issue isn't the neighbourhood. Although you could try East London and hang out more Hackney way, loads of artsy people up there.
Yes this. How come you don’t meet people through work or interests? I live near Brixton and I don’t recognise the world you describe - I do have friends like yours, but many others too. I don’t think moving is going to fix this, you need to address why you can’t broaden your social circle.
Luredbyapomegranate · 02/01/2022 09:03

@irene9

Sounds like you are doing a lot of comparing yourself with others. As suggested I think you could try connecting with people through other values and passions rather than upbringing, class or current wealth. Currently you are looking at yourself through a lens. That's not 'relating'. You seem to be rejecting people based on your criteria, but really I wonder is it you trying to find ways to intellectualise everything because you get scared when people get close to you. Joining clubs with shared interests or connecting with others through volunteering might bear fruit for you and provide more meaningful relationships.
Yep I’d agree with this too.
MyGreenTutu · 02/01/2022 09:15

Also rich people to me are people who earn 40k- 50k or more as that’s a huge huge salary where I grew up*

You need to get out of this mindset OP. £40k is the average London salary.

Dottydozet · 02/01/2022 09:19

I mean, there obviously are. London is home to some of the most deprived areas in the country. If you move into a white, middle class area then obviously you'll only be mixing with affluent people.

Plexie · 02/01/2022 09:28

I'm surprised your "affluent" part of London is in Zone 3 of SE London - I thought you were going to say somewhere like Chelsea or Hampstead. The only place I can think of is Blackheath/Greenwich, in which case you must either be living in a very small bubble or have a weird definition of the word "affluent".

Most of SE London is inhabited by "normal" people. I don't understand how you're only meeting privately educated native Londoners - nearly everywhere has a mix of people. How are you meeting people?

YerWanIsGettinNotions · 02/01/2022 11:01

@Plexie

I'm surprised your "affluent" part of London is in Zone 3 of SE London - I thought you were going to say somewhere like Chelsea or Hampstead. The only place I can think of is Blackheath/Greenwich, in which case you must either be living in a very small bubble or have a weird definition of the word "affluent".

Most of SE London is inhabited by "normal" people. I don't understand how you're only meeting privately educated native Londoners - nearly everywhere has a mix of people. How are you meeting people?

I mean, if you don't consider Forest Hill, East Dulwich or Crystal Palace (especially around the Triangle) "affluent", maybe your definition is off, too?

SE London is extremely expensive unless you've lived there all your life.

I would class Greenwich/Blackheath as super-rich tbh.

AwkwardPaws27 · 02/01/2022 11:28

I'm from Walthamstow but can't afford to live there. I've ended up in Zone 6 (Romford) and there's loads of people here who grew up in Walthamstow, Stratford etc who are in the same boat. Pre-covid, I seemed to meet someone almost every time I got a bus Grin
I'd say the people in our age range at the local pub (mid 20s to mid 30s) are pretty regular mix of people - some working in retail/hospitality, some in professions such as teaching or nursing, some working in not for profits/civil service, some in more specialist roles such as in IT. I don't know any investment bankers & none of my friends went to private school.
We bought pre-crossrail (I wasn't being priced out again!) but a lot of our friends are now looking around Essex to buy as prices have increased a lot.

dreamingbohemian · 02/01/2022 12:39

@YerWanIsGettinNotions

But even in those areas it's not monolithic

We are in Greenwich/Blackheath, my sons school has 40% on FSM. There are no super rich people on our estate. My DH works in retail. Yes there are a lot of big houses and private schools around but also lots of old council housing and 'normal people' who have lived here forever. Our neighbours are mostly tradesmen and pensioners.

That's why I think the OP's problem isn't the neighbourhood. Even in posher areas south of the river there are plenty of normal people.

DillonPanthersTexas · 02/01/2022 12:50

What an uphelpful comment! I'm sure if OP wanted a non floaty job she would get one - and having a "regular predictable income" isn't the be all and end all.

Well if you can't support yourself independently in one of the world's most expensive cities because you insist on unsecure not terribly well paid job (i.e most of the arts) you might want to reconsider your priorities.

SquirrelG · 02/01/2022 19:22

Well if you can't support yourself independently in one of the world's most expensive cities because you insist on unsecure not terribly well paid job (i.e most of the arts) you might want to reconsider your priorities.

FFS!! The OP asked if there are any "normal" people in London - she didn't say she needed any more money to live there!! Typical MN comment from someone who thinks a life which revolves around a high income is an ideal life. Honestly, why not read the post properly before spouting rubbish.

OP: are there any people in London who are regular, i.e. not very wealthy/very poor?

@DillonPanthersTexas: OP needs to find a better paying job.

Loggingbackinonceagain · 02/01/2022 19:25

You need different friends - me and mine are definitely 'normal' and not billionaires or in poverty.

Lmao over 10 million in this city and apparently no one normal for you too talk to 🤣🤣🤣🤣

mswales · 02/01/2022 19:36

So so many middle of the income road people in London OP! As another poster said in a city of 9 million there is absolutely every type of person. I'm in walthamstow which has been discussed, there have been a fair few murders within minutes of my house but it is still a cool, community-oriented creative lovely place to live! I am friends with or have parents at my son's nursery who are teachers, doctors, nurses, cleaners, construction workers, artists, mature students, journalists....
Who you are friends with is not about where you live, it's about the kind of activities you do and the places you go for leisure, the kind of stuff you like.

deadlanguage · 02/01/2022 20:07

If you want to meet people with specific interests you are probably better off joining a group (eg on Meetup there are loads) rather than hoping to just bump into people at random Confused