MLM bot watch Thread 68

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MLMs prey on people and rinse them

Here we expose the lies

I could bang on a length about these would be therapist/coaches like Roomie and Welsh. There are so many rubbish courses but the problem is that anyone can put a plaque on the door saying “therapist” and they’ll be doing nothing illegal. That’s what allows these courses to flourish in part. In fact these therapists can go completely under the wire because the chances are if they do some substantial harm then there will be nowhere to take the complaint. It’s much easier to get a therapist like me struck off because I’m on an accredited list. Another problem we’ve got in this country is that access to MH help is so poor and so convoluted that it creates a gap where these charlatans can flourish.

The problem with all these unregulated things like hypnotherapy is that if someone has done an online or very brief course they don’t actually learn their limitations. Proper psychotherapy is about understanding your limits, about serious post grad study, a core profession (ideally), hundreds of hours of supervised practice, ongoing training and supervision, insurance etc, and following and demonstrating adherence to a code of ethics. The barriers to entry should be much higher because people are vulnerable and deserve support that is considered, ethical and professional. Hypnotherapy has some serious contraindications for clients with some personality disorders and those with psychosis - is a weekend course or a 2 hour internet course going to equip Roomie, Mr Homeschool or Welsh to assess when they should leave well alone? It’s just another way of finding a vulnerability to exploit.

Can someone remind me of who Welsh rarebot is?

This new mental health business of Nurse's ... is it a real business? Or has she gone down the coaching/therapy rabbit hole with the other ex-bots?

Couldn’t agree more @YouokHun
A relative of mine who is a counsellor has a Master’s and hundreds of hours of supervised practice and someone like Roomie can get a certificate off the internet and claim to provide the same service
It’s really worrying and these over enthusiastic amateurs who have done well in MLMs through fakery and lies shouldn’t be let anywhere near someone who needs help
As for Mr Homeschool, he seems to be to be a writhing mass of insecurity and god knows what harm he’s doing with his low self esteem therapy

@Twentytwentyhindsight and @Youokhun - it’s incredible she can keep selling this as a viable opportunity when it has landed her in so much debt. How can people be so incredibly dishonest.

@Lunde

This new mental health business of Nurse's ... is it a real business? Or has she gone down the coaching/therapy rabbit hole with the other ex-bots?

She's actually qualified.

Hi guys, I've never been on here before bar a few times. But I'm happy to take criticism. I know I'm a bit mental sometimes, I do try to reign myself in but sadly around the same time every month I do go into full tw*t mode. I didn't really set out to be a prominent person or to ascend as such, which I don't really think has happened as I'm very small still and my page is still restricted a lot from reps reporting me so many times, I don't even get suggested to people. When I made my first video it went from there really. I didn't realise it would be shared like it was and I didn't really bank on it going as far as it did in terms of me making so many more videos. I'm working now so it's not as easy to get them out.

The thing with my ex friend. The problem was she'd been gunning for me for a while since she told me and another one of my friends about her affairs when she was drunk. I kind of cracked when she started telling mums in my kids class lies about me, the whole thing really affected me at the time, I couldn't even make content I was so upset daily, that video wasn't live and wasn't on my page though it was on my profile. The other stuff about infighting, I'm guessing you mean the stuff with Helen and making the socials about me. I've never wanted to fight with her. I ignored all her videos a few months back and only ever attempted to communicate with her privately to essentially tell her to please leave me alone. All this recent stuff, I don't get it myself and honesty it pisses me off more then anything that I've had to address it like I have, and I still don't think she's effed off for good.

With the group, mine and Laura's idea was always to create somewhere reps can go and leave and feel like they have another community to be part of. It is full of a lot of very confused ladies for sure I speak to them often and they usually know their MLM is just as much a bag of sh*t but it takes a a while to come to terms with it for them. The lady who lost £500 and went back to TS Life, she's left TS Life now, she's only young and owes her mum a lot of money, she's desperate to pay her back. She does have another full time job, but it doesn't pay well. Without the group she'd have gone full blown back into TS Life.

As I said, I'm happy to take criticism, if you tell me what you think I need to do more or less. xx

Hi Ms Sponlie
Any anti MLMer is welcome here!

I see Castle the super organised and get it done woman, now needs ANOTHER PT to get her into shape.

Why does she not just use her Journal to book out work out times.

What a lovely to repay your best friend who lived and cooked for you for a month. By advertising a DIFFERENT PT on your Insta.

Friends like that!

Welcome Ms Sponlie.

Did you have any more interesting communications from the country manager of Forever Fibbing who said you could do so much better? The cheek of that man! Do you think he was trying to get you to turn bot, so to speak? He used to be an FBO - wonder why he jacked it in for a JOB?

I hope you haven’t had any more threatening letters from that city law firm which is popular with the royal family either. Were they instructed by TS Life or some other MLM?

It's good to see you here @MsSponlie. I was one of the people who raised a concern here and what you've said makes a lot of sense. I'm glad one person got saved from TS Life at least; they are absolute scum.

On the subject of TS Life, I'm dying to see what the turnout of the 'exclusive' event is going to be, especially as he ended up giving loads away to people who'd just joined, plus suddenly 'found' a load more for sale.

@BSintolerant

Welcome Ms Sponlie.

Did you have any more interesting communications from the country manager of Forever Fibbing who said you could do so much better? The cheek of that man! Do you think he was trying to get you to turn bot, so to speak? He used to be an FBO - wonder why he jacked it in for a JOB?

I hope you haven’t had any more threatening letters from that city law firm which is popular with the royal family either. Were they instructed by TS Life or some other MLM?

Hey, not sure who you mean "country manager". You might be getting me mixed with Laura who was contacted by a representative, suspected on behalf of TBSAH. He never got back in touch after her continued replies telling him to essentially eff off.

The letters were from the law firm, although I have been informed TS Life wanted to also sue me which I have heard nothing from (I'm assuming they are too busy dealing with their own illegal pyramid scheme problems, which have been blamed on me). The person who was attempting to sue me is not proceeding with it as I'm assuming he's realised that even it he did win, it's a fruitless endeavour.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs

It's good to see you here *@MsSponlie*. I was one of the people who raised a concern here and what you've said makes a lot of sense. I'm glad one person got saved from TS Life at least; they are absolute scum.

On the subject of TS Life, I'm dying to see what the turnout of the 'exclusive' event is going to be, especially as he ended up giving loads away to people who'd just joined, plus suddenly 'found' a load more for sale.

I haven't been following them recently, but they are not in a good place to put it mildly. It's really quite funny that they are still trying to present like everything is amazing. This month I've been sent screen shots from of ex reps trying to sell items like the coffee that they TS Life no longer sell, they have loads of it that they obviously bought at the time to meet rank. It's a sad because I think they are desperately trying to get some money back, probably after having to buy new school uniforms etc and they are really in the sh*t.

I'm trying to get as much info out as possible about Kyani. It's not a new MLM, but are relaunching in the UK. Caius ex bezzie is the UK leader and it's clearly a pure pyramid scheme, these women are going to lose so much money. Some will put in Xmas funds and all sorts as they're been promised that if they get in now they'll be "built under". One women who has just joined under B3, a few months back raving about how amazingly she was doing in UR has now put a post up saying how she was about to apply for housing benefit, but now she won't need to since joining Kyani, it's just sick it really it.

Talk of the devil, they're charging 99p to join now 🙈

@MsSponlie Good job on the Kyani video - this is the stuff I love to see. For me, I miss the whiteboard videos

[quote Dizzy6700]@MsSponlie Good job on the Kyani video - this is the stuff I love to see. For me, I miss the whiteboard videos [/quote]
The current state of said white board, they won't leave it alone. I need new pens. It will be back! 😉

hahahaha love it

OMG Uber's new bath. Very ostentatious. Also minimum £3.5k. On a bath. Let's hope Mr Uber doesn't dent it getting it upstairs!

Welcome @MsSponlie and hope you take my comments as not intended to be an attack in any way. I’ve much admired your energy and you’re clearly someone who MLM people feel they can turn to which is so important. Great job on Kyani.

As for Totally Shit Life and Messiah; he’s been shilling those tickets for the “Chrysalis Event” like there’s no tomorrow (let’s hope there is no tomorrow for TSL). The tickets have just sold out! And then 2 hours later they’ve nearly sold out! And if you buy your body weight in Supanova you can have a ticket for £19.99 even though they have sold out etc etc. Anyone know what central Manchester venue might be able to hold Messiah and one or two mugs who have spent £19.99 on tickets plus one “lead closing guru” headline speaker? If I was local I’d definitely be gatecrashing that event and doubling the numbers. Strange that it’s all so secret squirrel

@YouokHun

Welcome *@MsSponlie* and hope you take my comments as not intended to be an attack in any way. I’ve much admired your energy and you’re clearly someone who MLM people feel they can turn to which is so important. Great job on Kyani.

As for Totally Shit Life and Messiah; he’s been shilling those tickets for the “Chrysalis Event” like there’s no tomorrow (let’s hope there is no tomorrow for TSL). The tickets have just sold out! And then 2 hours later they’ve nearly sold out! And if you buy your body weight in Supanova you can have a ticket for £19.99 even though they have sold out etc etc. Anyone know what central Manchester venue might be able to hold Messiah and one or two mugs who have spent £19.99 on tickets plus one “lead closing guru” headline speaker? If I was local I’d definitely be gatecrashing that event and doubling the numbers. Strange that it’s all so secret squirrel

My bar for considering something an attack has been considerably raised this past year 🙈 I'll explain if I'm misunderstood, I honestly don't do things with bad intentions. I don't mind being told if I'm off the mark, it's the only way you can improve.

One question, if CH is the "Messiah" does that make JM "God" himself? 🤔😂 *J and C reading these forum like "we've been rumbled, quick ascend, ASCEND!"

Just looking on FB at this "Chrysalis - The Event" which they are calling "The birth of a new era". Imagining the anointed one feeling like an absolute genius naming his event after the period which actually happens before the event, then in the spirit of Supanova, makes up his own meaning to fit with the name he chose before he realised the actual meaning 🙈😂. They've got some guy whose going to "train them" 😃😃. So exciting. The trainings will consist of this random American guy telling the reps, for the first half, about his life and lifestyle and his super cars (that he doesn't own) and homes around the world (that he doesn't own). The second half will be dedicated to telling them to believe in themselves and if they work hard for no money, like he hasn't, they will succeed and be as amazing as he isn't. After the event the Messiah, absolutely will not take anything illicit and when Mary Magdalene isn't watching he will definately not act disgustingly towards every slim rep under 23 years old.

Chapter VI from the Book of Scamming Shits, Verses 1-20:

After supper with his disciples (both of them) he rose from the table and spake a lot of bollocks about the rebirth of Totally Shit Life. He then came upon a young girl who wasn’t Mrs Messiah who was but a rabbit caught in the headlights of the Messiah’s leased Ferrari. He laid his hands upon her and so it came to pass that the law men of Manchester were also on his case as well as those in Dublin.

On the third day he rose up from the bathroom floor and wiping the white powder from his nose he appeared at the right hand side of God somewhere in Essex who under the cover of darkness paid the Messiah’s passage back to Ibiza using coins of gold taken from the purses of the poor.

And lo, it came to pass that as a result of his sermon at The Mount (dodgy pub in Manchester) some disciples did recruit other disciples having partaken of the Kool-aid and they did lose all their money, friends and dignity.

God spoke and said “do not return to the City of Dublin for a fate awaits you there that involves digging about in your bank accounts. Instead I will distract the naysayers by focussing the wrath of God on Ms Sponlie”. And so the Messiah did journey south to Ibiza where he remained, administering to the poor and fallen via Zoom and anointing the heads of babes with Supanova™️ to ward off the Great Plague that doesn’t exist.

And it came to pass that Ms Sponlie had the Messiah bang to rights and the lawyers of London City told God that he’d be shining a light on his own activities and best leave it.

Here endeth the lesson

As so it cameth. His chosen people did worship Our Lord God's goldenbullshit. And His almighty learned of Law Apostles took His wrath to Ms Sponlie known as only as 'The Serpent'. And God did send his only begotten son back to his rented mansion in Dublin, whereby he His orders to bring the two kingdoms together were enacted. And thus the Lord Gods plan to adorn his most anointed Son with super cars and the means to fill his nostrils with His most heavily white powder, while He did banish to the depths of Hell never to be seen in again - His forbidden accounts and most sinful scripts, linking His most sacred self to The Kingdom of Shit and the Messiah. And so it came to pass, the Lord God did take the lost herd of The Shit Life into Active Crabs, before scarifying His only Son to save all of His own sins. Peace be with Him and also with his accountant.

What’s the story with the other TS high up reps? I always see lots of posts from the one from Ibiza, and a UK based one who has the same first name (2 initials) as the Swedish national train company.

Is messiah half a Cambridge college and some hard rain?

He’s awful

@MsSponlie

As so it cameth. His chosen people did worship Our Lord God's goldenbullshit. And His almighty learned of Law Apostles took His wrath to Ms Sponlie known as only as 'The Serpent'. And God did send his only begotten son back to his rented mansion in Dublin, whereby he His orders to bring the two kingdoms together were enacted. And thus the Lord Gods plan to adorn his most anointed Son with super cars and the means to fill his nostrils with His most heavily white powder, while He did banish to the depths of Hell never to be seen in again - His forbidden accounts and most sinful scripts, linking His most sacred self to The Kingdom of Shit and the Messiah. And so it came to pass, the Lord God did take the lost herd of The Shit Life into Active Crabs, before scarifying His only Son to save all of His own sins. Peace be with Him and also with his accountant.

The Ten Bot Commandments

• I am thy Upline: thou shalt not have strange goods before me
• Thou shall not take the name of thy Upline in vain
• Remember to keep holy the Convention Day
• Honour thy Upline and thy Upline's Upline
• Thou shalt not be negative
• Thou shalt not openly commit poaching of other mugs' downlines
• Thou shalt not have any friends
• Thou shalt not speak to thy neighbour unless thou art about to recruit them
• Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's life
• Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's delicious coffee