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MLM Bot Watch 67: Is it all slowly imploding?

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acatcalledjohn · 02/07/2021 22:07

Previous thread.

MLM Bot Watch 66: Missing Messiah and cheap lounge wear http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legalmoneymatters/4221787-mlm-bot-watch-66-missing-messiah-and-cheap-lounge-wear

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VolcanicEruption · 18/07/2021 13:36

I see Castle 🏰 has used this news to show off earlier big fat cheques.
Whoever takes over do they get residual income?
On another note I see Wig & Sleaze’s friend has had fb ban.

SnoogyWoo · 18/07/2021 16:08

Just updated Wikipedia with his death. No sympathy from me.

BSintolerant · 18/07/2021 16:12

Castle and the actual company should remember where their money actually came from. How many people have got into debt to line their pockets?

FranceTeam · 18/07/2021 18:35

@Cacacoisfarraige

Yawn is on a slide towards bankruptcy.

Her house has been devalued by her cheap tacky decorations and lack of spending on structural expensive jobs like the roof.

Anyone with any money doesn’t put a chemical toilet in an out house, they call a plumber and do it properly

I wonder how many of Mr Yawns jobs are botch jobs too, and have they the relevant permissions.

All her money is pissed away on hair, nails and gym - she should be on jersey shore

And now she thinks the adhd community is the answer to her grifting.

There is no evidence that she is on the verge of bankruptcy. And i think it is rather unfair to make these types of comments without any evidence, indeed the evidence is to the contrary and she appears to have had a successful year in her terms. Please focus the message on stopping people joining MLMs rather than making statements you could not possibly know.
BSintolerant · 18/07/2021 20:14

Yawn runs her alleged business as a limited company so there’s no danger of her becoming bankrupt. Insolvency may be a possibility but as company accounts don’t show the whole picture it’s impossible to know for sure.

What we can tell from accounts filed at Companies House is that bots are lying liars who tell lies - especially when they say they’re debt free thanks to MLM yet their accounts show they have enormous directors’ loans.

Cacacoisfarraige · 18/07/2021 20:46

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FranceTeam · 18/07/2021 21:01

You can only see very limited information on a small company accounts at a point in time. You have no way of telling how much money any of the bots have by looking at these accounts. You cannot tell if they paid the tax on any director’s loan either, that would be a personal transaction between the bot and HMRC. Also the accounts are not audited, the company size is way below the threshold for audit and I cannot see any bot paying for an audit. I think you need to stop looking at these and drawing what is likely to be the wrong conclusions.

Besides, people on this thread have been saying the various bots are close to going under for years, yet they don’t seem to be to me.

Cacacoisfarraige · 18/07/2021 21:11

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FranceTeam · 19/07/2021 00:20

The only real clue on any bot’s financial position would be their tax return, not an unaudited abreviated balance sheet. Sadly, the bots mentioned on here are doing ok, they don’t appear to be on the verge of bankruptcy at all.

Yes, go and attack them for targeting vulnerable groups but let’s not fool over selves that they are insolvent or that the MLM companies are imploding, they are clearly still functioning and doing well.

definitelynotabot · 19/07/2021 10:08

@FranceTeam

The only real clue on any bot’s financial position would be their tax return, not an unaudited abreviated balance sheet. Sadly, the bots mentioned on here are doing ok, they don’t appear to be on the verge of bankruptcy at all.

Yes, go and attack them for targeting vulnerable groups but let’s not fool over selves that they are insolvent or that the MLM companies are imploding, they are clearly still functioning and doing well.

The thing is though, that growth appears to have slowed right down, it's almost ground to a halt.

Last month only 6 supervisors and no other promotions across the whole of the UK. That's unprecedented, surely? I remember the days when there would be hundreds of supervisors each month, let alone all the other promotions those fed into.

If that continues, it really doesn't bode well for the top bots - at least in the UK. The social proof will be harder and harder to provide.

Seeing all those people walking across stage at success days and picking up their promotions really did provide fire and encouragement for many that they could do it too. For those who couldn't get to success days, they'd see the long long lists of names in the magazine. Those at the start of their Forever journey just won't be seeing that now, and I think it's a slippery slope.

Angrymum22 · 19/07/2021 10:18

@FranceTeam

The only real clue on any bot’s financial position would be their tax return, not an unaudited abreviated balance sheet. Sadly, the bots mentioned on here are doing ok, they don’t appear to be on the verge of bankruptcy at all.

Yes, go and attack them for targeting vulnerable groups but let’s not fool over selves that they are insolvent or that the MLM companies are imploding, they are clearly still functioning and doing well.

A self employed tax return in conjunction with limited company would be of no real use either way. Limited company status is used widely by self employed to optimise tax avoidance ( perfectly legal ). Accounts are a bit of a red herring. Yawns careful use of her income is more telling. She splashes the cash on nails/hair/beauty treatments but spends very little on her main investment, her house. All projects are DIY, recently she’s been painting plastic windows, when really she should be investing in a new roof. Don’t get me wrong I am all for reusing and repurposing, but for someone trying to sell the dream she is tight with money.
Spongebobette · 19/07/2021 11:15

Perhaps we are not in possession of all the facts on this particular charlatan but I can certainly say that if I were debt free, on a 6 figure income and had bought a house like that I’d have professional decorators and builders in to do everything.
I would furnish the house with considered pieces not cheapo stuff.
I wouldn’t let my husband go up a long ladder, it’s incredibly unsafe.

I think we are perfectly ok to point out the dissonance between the income claims and what appears on social media

CompleteBarstool · 19/07/2021 15:26

Love the way Yawn asks about people's views on face masks but as soon as someone says it's irresponsible to ditch them (which is what Yawn is going to do) she gets a bit arsey and ends her post with a passive aggressive
smile and a "Big love to you"

JohnStonesMissus · 19/07/2021 16:29

Oh yes she hates anyone who doesn't agree or suck up to her..

Spongebobette · 19/07/2021 18:19

Can someone explain what exactly Sleaze and other idiots are protesting against in ‘Parliment Square’ today?

Tupperwarelid · 19/07/2021 18:33

I don't know about all of them but Sleaze is there to "save the children" from enforced vaccines and satanic ritualistic sex abuse by the Elite i.e. politicians, royal family etc and to bring down the Government

Spongebobette · 19/07/2021 18:36

massive eye roll

In the videos I’ve seen, the stupid mob are provoking the police and trying to start a fight

PieonaBarm · 19/07/2021 19:30

Coco is being interviewed by the Police, so he's been arrested

fitgirl26 · 19/07/2021 22:46

Sleaze has thrown his toys out of the pram and says he doesn't want to be freedom fighter anymore because the police are not "coming onside". Diddums. Back to scamming then eh Sleaze? Anyone else feel slightly nauseated by the open shirt buttons and the sweaty chest?

BSintolerant · 19/07/2021 23:12

Anyone else feel slightly nauseated by the open shirt buttons and the sweaty chest?

Don’t have nightmares, do sleep well. Grin

acatcalledjohn · 19/07/2021 23:35

Don't have nightmares, do sleep well.
Thank you baked potato!
Don't think of the pungent smell.
Thank you baked potato!

Sleaze has thrown his toys out of the pram and says he doesn't want to be freedom fighter anymore because the police are not "coming onside"

Gosh. Not much going on in that skull of his, is there.

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acatcalledjohn · 19/07/2021 23:37

And if you want to have a better day
Please don't listen to what Sleaze, Wig and Coco say.

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fromdownwest · 20/07/2021 09:46

Watching all of the FL welsh crew, it is very very apparent that their products do not work.
Constantly falling off the health wagon, and seeking a cleanse or a reset.
If the FL product life style is so managable and successful why the Yo Yo diets.
Then when they are on a 'health' kick they preach like it is their daily activity.

VolcanicEruption · 20/07/2021 15:20

I see Castle’s parents new home has arrived. Bruv mentioned something about his spare bedroom.
Apparently Sleazes friend has been released 👮‍♂️

Twentytwentyhindsight · 20/07/2021 15:50

Don't know about anyone else, but 'living the dream' for me does not involve moving my extended family into portakabins in my garden...