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What would you expect the tax to be on 27,845?

33 replies

LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 15:39

I'm confused Confused

My tax (self employed) is coming out at £9,911

Is that about right?

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LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 15:40

Plus 4K of payments on account Hmm

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patchworkpals20 · 23/11/2020 15:42

Do you have a main job or is this income your main income?

You get approx 12k tax free allowance so you'd only pay 20% of the remaining figure.

To my mind 9k looks well off the mark.

PatriciaHolm · 23/11/2020 15:42

that seems high - see here

www.hmrc.gov.uk/tools/sa-ready-reckoner/results-eng.htm?money=2320&tickdPeriod=monthly

Zavii · 23/11/2020 15:42

You can check it on here: www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php

Unless it's a second job or you owe tax back or are on an emergency code it looks wrong to me.

TMIincoming · 23/11/2020 15:44

Gloat post, not helpful to you at all sorry.

My tax allowance is more than that so I wouldn't pay any. 9k sounds a huge amount to me

iwannaseeyou · 23/11/2020 15:46

Should be more like £3000 surely?

LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 15:47

No, only job and I do simple self employed tax

So there is the income, then the deductions and then left with £27,845 to pay tax on

I did think it looked higher than before

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Fizbosshoes · 23/11/2020 15:49

How is it a gloat post, it looks pretty modest compared to 99% of what most MN claim to earn!

Kazzyhoward · 23/11/2020 15:52

Definitely way too high. Somewhere along the line you've put the wrong figure(s) in a box(es). Have you duplicated the income somehow or missed off some expenses?

You'll be able to view/print a tax calculation, so do that and see how the figures look. Post them on here.

Tax/NIC on £27,845 is just under £5,000.

HollowTalk · 23/11/2020 15:56

That's far too high. I agree with a PP - you've entered the wrong figures somewhere.

SchoolNightWine · 23/11/2020 16:00

Your tax should be £3069 (£27845 - £12500 personal allowance x 20%.
Your class 4 NI would be £1729 (£27845 - £8632 lower profits limit x 9%).
Your class 2 NI would be £156 (£3 x 52 weeks).
So a total of £4954 altogether, plus £2500ish payments on account.

Where are you inputting your figures that is showing the £9k tax due?

HollowTalk · 23/11/2020 16:00

The taxable income is £15,345.00
Tax is £ 3,069.00
NI is £ 2,305.56 (but this is for an employed person, not self-employed)

This is 2019-20 on the Salary Calculator.

HollowTalk · 23/11/2020 16:00

@SchoolNightWine has it.

TMIincoming · 23/11/2020 16:11

@LaurieFairyCake

No, only job and I do simple self employed tax

So there is the income, then the deductions and then left with £27,845 to pay tax on

I did think it looked higher than before

So 27,845 is after you have deducted your personal allowance?
LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 16:13

I have just logged back in again

I took photos on my camera of my submitted return and summary EARLIER

I then filled in the 'reduce payments' direct debit form

I've logged back in and gone through my return, changed NOTHING - filed it again and it now says I owe £5360

Made up of £4960 tax and £400 on account

It's literally different than two hours ago (and I have both photographs) and all I've done is reduce the payments on the direct debit

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LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 16:14

You don't deduct your personal allowance - they do that for you

I earned about £48k - took off £19k of deductions (rent/bills/expenses)

Left me with £27k to pay tax on

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TMIincoming · 23/11/2020 16:17

@LaurieFairyCake

You don't deduct your personal allowance - they do that for you

I earned about £48k - took off £19k of deductions (rent/bills/expenses)

Left me with £27k to pay tax on

Your op was misleading, people thought that was your income.
LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 16:18

Tax return from earlier and now Confused

What would you expect the tax to be on 27,845?
What would you expect the tax to be on 27,845?
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Bumble84 · 23/11/2020 16:21

Yes I assumed your income was £27k. If that is what you pay tax and NI on then £9k seems about right as you will pay some 20% tax and some at higher rate (I think above £42k(ish) and NI

LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 16:23

TMIncoming

I've been perfectly clear. I'm trying to work out the tax on £27,845 (which is my income)

I don't get £48k. That's the turnover. I rent an office and have deductions of £19k.

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Marshy86 · 23/11/2020 16:28

Are you also paying some in advance for the next 6months? That's what Stung me last January

satnighttakeaway · 23/11/2020 16:34

The revised figures are correct per @SchoolNightWine 's calcullation but that doesn't explain why the first ones were wrong

Probably just a glitch on the tax return computer, all OK now so I'd file and move on

LaurieFairyCake · 23/11/2020 16:42

I also think SchoolNightWine is right

It means I've overpaid and the calculation isn't right - I was paying up til February this year (including the On Account payments) and I think I've already paid about £4K

I stopped when Covid hit and then delayed my tax return as HMRC asked people to - so it's now due in by January

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satnighttakeaway · 23/11/2020 16:46

@LaurieFairyCake

I also think SchoolNightWine is right

It means I've overpaid and the calculation isn't right - I was paying up til February this year (including the On Account payments) and I think I've already paid about £4K

I stopped when Covid hit and then delayed my tax return as HMRC asked people to - so it's now due in by January

I'm interested in when HMRC asked people to delay their tax returns,my Dsis has had some trouble with them about submiting her return, I know she'd like to have details of that, I can't find anything via google
BarbaraofSeville · 23/11/2020 16:47

Is it accounting for all the expenses when it goes through the calculation?

If it was missing the expenses for some reason then 48-12 personal allowance = 36 x 0.2 = about £7k in tax and then some NI which would make your £9k.

Have you gone through the full calculation? - it might be in the view/print/save link on your screen.

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