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MLM Bot watch 57- where the bizniss 'owners' are their own best customers.

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Bluewavescrashing · 06/02/2020 04:42

Time for a new Fred, huns. We watch bots (people who have signed up to multi level marketing schemes which are thinly veiled pyramid schemes). We expose their lies, in the hope that fewer vulnerable people will be sucked in to buying a fake business. This is not trolling. It's calling them out on their fakery. Welcome, huns.

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nakedavengeragain · 05/03/2020 09:14

I'll be honest though Sydney in April/May is quite lovely. Much better than the searing heat of summer. It can rain for days on end but it's actually drier than summer. If they do go they'll still have an amazing time.

Whiterangey · 05/03/2020 09:19

It depends, Australia is super expensive and they haven't got a lot of money. I also wouldn't risk travelling then, the pandemic will be in full flow by then.

BSintolerant · 05/03/2020 09:20

Mary Kay has nothing Down Under! That’s a shame. Grin

Bluewavescrashing · 05/03/2020 09:55

I would pay to watch the online rally tbh.

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Whiterangey · 05/03/2020 10:37

I'd be tempted but would struggle. Giving money to forever living would be extremely difficult, don't think I could do it.

Bluewavescrashing · 05/03/2020 10:38

Oh yeah, doh!

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CodenameVillanelle · 05/03/2020 11:01

'Natural' hand sanitizers Grin who are they kidding??

Norma27 · 05/03/2020 11:17

I'm another who cannot decide if I am delighted there is no global rally, or totally disappointed I don't get to watch it this year.

mlmingaheartbeat · 05/03/2020 13:13

Those that have already spent money buying tickets, hotel accommodation will not see much back from compensation - I hope that they did not use credit cards or loans to cover costs as this will be an expensive exercise!
It also highlights what people are prepared to do to stay in "Cult-land" the financial sacrifices made to keep up with the Jones, the lies and smoke and mirror behaviour -all to be taken down by a virus .....

Jigsawpuzzle · 05/03/2020 13:43

Reminds me of the H G Wells War of the worlds.The microscopic bugs killed off the Aliens 👽

CodenameVillanelle · 05/03/2020 15:01

Nurse has moved her presentation online...guess you can't really do a real life presentation to nobody can you?

Spongebobette · 05/03/2020 15:08

Omg NOBODY wanted to go

Whiterangey · 05/03/2020 17:06

They did, but they need to change their mindset to take the plunge and own their own bizniz. It's fear of breaking away from 'the man' and starting their own bizniz and making billions.

Bluewavescrashing · 05/03/2020 17:52

Law of reaction--Castle has finally bought a decent microphone.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/03/2020 18:09

Unable to check the various FLP bots' accounts at the moment. Are any acknowledging the cancellation of the GR and, if so, what is their take?

user1469104844 · 05/03/2020 19:28

Have been a long term lurker on these threads but finally got around to registering to share my story of mlm but a slightly different kind!

When I was straight out of uni, going back around 14 years, i took a 'job' doing door to door sales for a sky tv - you probably are very familiar with these door knockers, they work on behalf of companies like hello fresh and various charities now getting people to sign up to monthly donations.

Anyway, it had much the same lure as MLMs like forever etc. You worked for your up line, but you could build a team and you would get paid a bit of commission for their sales and move up the ladder (equally ridiculous names) and eventually become a 'business owner'. It had very much the same cult like mentality and I got completely sucked in. I was out there 6 days a week knocking on doors from first thing to last thing in all weathers. You only got a small amount of commission when you signed someone up.

It took about 8 months for me to see the light and get out but by that time i had managed to run up huge debts, and had female friends who had really feared for their safety. Sending vulnerable young women to knock on a door that anyone could be behind, alone, is something now that I just can't quite get my head around.

I have managed to sort myself out and grow up, paying off the debts and have worked my way up the ladder now to a successful career, but have pretty much tried to block out that memory.

I just thought it might be interesting to people on here as it never gets mentioned but you still see these groups of (mostly young and naive like I was) people on the streets. The mlm company was called cobra group, became Apcoa, but each 'business owner' named their 'direct marketing' business.

Feel free to ask me questions if you're interested!

On a completely different note I recently saw one of my friends from uni signed up with Uber 😞

girlicorne · 05/03/2020 20:08

@user1469104844 I did similar just after I finished sixth form but it was lugging bags of tat around shops and pubs etc. There was another arm of the business doing what you did. It was so culty all the chanting at the morning meeting and we also went to some big convention in London again really cult like. I saw the light after a few weeks but all my friends and family were so worried about me. One of the girls I worked with there was much more successful than me( I made about a fiver a day and usually spent it in the pub) and gave up a teacher training place at university to do it full time. The parallels with MLM are amazing I d never considered that before. Sleep deprivation- we started at 7am and didn’t finish til late then we were all expected to go to the pub together and I was frequently told I wasn’t trying hard enough even though we never got any new merch and all of the shops and pubs had been hounded to buy the tat for months!!!

Norma27 · 05/03/2020 21:51

They all seem to be quiet about the global rally twenty. I can't find any mention of it!

Spongebobette · 05/03/2020 22:05

Oh god Nurse has done an online meeting with her brand new teamie and Yawn
Plans put in place etc etc etc
What would you do with an extra £1600 a month. FFS

Urgh

BSintolerant · 05/03/2020 22:08

What did sky tv have you selling door to door @user1469104844? I remember getting pestered by someone from Sky Promotions who lurked on uni campuses selling beauty treatments.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 05/03/2020 22:15

I know who nurse is but where’s the stuff about an online meeting? I remember she had a business page but that appears to be private, as is Instagram. Am I missing something?

Bluewavescrashing · 06/03/2020 04:32

@Mycatismadeofstringcheese look at Nurse's stories on fb. It's with a few others.

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Bluewavescrashing · 06/03/2020 04:39

@girlicorne and @user1469104844 that is terrible that you were expected to compromise safety to such an extent. Thank you for adding your experiences. I was convinced by a seller in a shopping centre to buy a rubbish makeup set once, sounds like a similar thing. Sky are incredibly manipulative in their ethics, changing prices on long contracts etc so I'm not surprised they are involved in shady practices.

@user1469104844 what tat did you sell exactly?

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user1469104844 · 06/03/2020 05:00

@bsintolerant we were sent to houses that did not have sky packages, we were given a route to do everyday with the exact houses that were not yet customers. So you went to see whether anyone was interested in sky tv/phone/broadband packages or switching from another provider. The bigger the package or if you had a sky + box or multi room for example, the more commission you got.

user1469104844 · 06/03/2020 05:03

@bluewavescrashing I was lucky I guess in that I never really feared for my safety inside a house although we did get sent to some pretty ropey areas. I usually paired up with a friend but obviously that was then half the sign ups. I really clearly remember meeting her one day and she had just got out of a house where a man had tried to lock her in and proposition her, she was hysterical.

I look back and can't believe I got sucked in to the dream of having my own business but like other mlms they post misleading ads on job boards. I can understand how people end up where they do.