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MLM Bot Watch 54: The never-ending Saga

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Jasmin82 · 07/10/2019 22:05

Continuing from the last thread
Link to previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3677066-MLM-Bot-Watch-53-The-saga-continues?pg=1

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Gotmychocolateimgood · 27/10/2019 19:22

At least if he's in prison he won't have to pay rent!

abatculledjohn · 27/10/2019 19:38

"police are not an option in my life they aren't my cup of tea"

Righty-ho.

Gotmychocolateimgood · 27/10/2019 19:44

PHD is promising a dreamy income with her new travel business opportunity. I can't believe this is new to her- inteletravel or whatever it's called has been around ft or ages. She must be highly suggestible to have bought into yet another mlm.

Gushing post full of rubbish and lies got 2 replies only, both from fellow travel huns.

I particularly enjoyed her fb story cocktail pic including drops of essential oils earlier. Complete with obligitary temperature sticker of course.

JackDelaney · 27/10/2019 21:06

Does anyone know why what's so alluring about this latest travel MLM?

They've been around for ages but suddenly reps are going crazy on holidays and posting pictures of them living this lavish lifestyle.

As soon as they start with this particular company they instantly turn into jet setters.

Is it just the cheap travel perks that keeps them in? And are they even legit?

There's a couple of self-proclaimed MLM mentors going knee deep in it and that's surprising for them to take a risk like that.

Whiterangey · 27/10/2019 21:21

I think it's the allure of becoming a travel influencer. I think they truly think they will be become big and become instagram famous and have lots of followers and all that jazz.

Everything i've read points to the travel MLM's being the worst, the only income from the downlines are from the downlines subscription to the MLM, nobody sells any holidays, the only holidays bought are bought by the bots. Given how expensive holidays are, it's just once a year.

You can't do what you can with other MLM's and buy tons of the product yourself.

There isn't a lot of money in it from what i've seen unless you are right at the top of the pyramid, even then it's not as lucrative as the other MLM's.

JackDelaney · 27/10/2019 22:40

Is there really people buying holidays from people like this on Facebook though?

But what does it matter anyway.

Literally all their facebook posts are lifestyle brags and tired out self-development quotes.

Who is going to risk buying a holiday from someone like this. They never go into enough detail about the product to make it sound like it matters. It's all recruitment focused posts.

I bet behind scenes it's basically just a discount holiday club that reps pay to join and stay in. They pay for their trips making the company money and the idea is they use them to do their attraction marketing.

This probably works on some. But the whole thing ain't sustainable, when people start dropping out and you can't keep travelling. It must be exhausting.

These jet settings reps are the customer here and I bet hardly any holidays are being purchased by non-participants.

So it's basically a pyramid scheme.

How are they going to do a U-Turn on this when it all goes tits up!?

MLMsuperfan · 28/10/2019 12:13

The travel ones are pure pyramid schemes because as you suggest, nobody at all is buying holidays. If they were, we would see bots sharing their customers' holiday snaps with testominals (as happens frequently with the gloop, makeup MLMs etc.) But I've never once seen this from a travel bot.

fromdownwest · 28/10/2019 14:01

We have the educated one doing a presentation on how her and her mate were online six figure earners tonight.

More nonsense about 'slaying' and 'entitled' and 'self sabotage'

When in reality, she had an old Audi on lease, of which she was struggling to pay the balloon payment, with no accounts that were able to validate her income claims that she still hangs onto.

cozietoesie · 28/10/2019 16:25
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Gotmychocolateimgood · 28/10/2019 16:59

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/work/3727062-Being-a-scentsy-consultant

Spongebobette · 28/10/2019 17:20

Waves at @cozietoesie!

Spongebobette · 28/10/2019 17:25

Oh dear the bots came out on that thread
My bingo card is full

leasedaudi · 28/10/2019 19:36

Also the educated one asked to do a "site inspection" of a new hotel in Perth. God knows why? Seems to think it means she's "slaying?"

fromdownwest · 28/10/2019 20:11

I happen to know a lot of people in the hotel trade, that hotel opens on the 15th, so she is not some elite guest. They allow walk arounds for anyone that asks. So not exactly slaying it.

If she had any clout, she'd be there for the opening night

TheHorseOnSeventhAvenue · 28/10/2019 22:33

The clever one has gone off the scale.

Only watched 4 minutes of her live.

Empowering women has nothing to do with buying Louis Vuitton handbags. PHD thinks this is a big part of empowerment.

Quick précis:

Couldn’t believe I could earn 10 grand a month but once I started earning that I now believe I can earn 100 grand a month.

I met someone who earns a million a day - I can do that.

Empowering women blah, blah

I suspect the clever bot is more delusional than broke.

Not scared of being called out on internet bullying:

PHD - you are a liar and a fraud. You are disgustingly materialistic and possibly delusional. Use your education and earn an honest salary and you could have a decent life.

Spongebobette · 29/10/2019 07:49

I’m afraid that her use of ‘onboarding’ as a verb to describe someone joining her business had me laughing in derision

JackDelaney · 29/10/2019 10:45

@TheHorseOnSeventhAvenue

I enjoy reading the comments on her videos.

I noticed that there's a few 'supporters' spamming multiple comments one after the other to really increase the interaction so it looks impressive.

This doesn't look natural at all. Classic MLM trick spotted.

"Wow, this looks amazing"
"So motivating"
"Wow, so inspirational"
"Yes, the sun really does shine out of your bum-hole doesn't it!"
"HAHA!"
"EMOJIS"
"I'm so ready to make some money!!!"
"Let's do this!"

It's really cringey because they look so forced and obviously set-up.

I wonder if these commenters get a kick-back or a payment for their 'support'?

Spongebobette · 29/10/2019 11:58

I wonder if she has multiple accounts and is operating in a hall of mirrors

fitgirl26 · 29/10/2019 12:14

Wig's new forever MLM has..........................drum roll...................not launched yet.

fromdownwest · 29/10/2019 13:43

I don't get it at all, why would your life goal to earn more and more, and more, whilst only looking to mix with people who earn more than you do. Constantly looking upwards and never content.

Why when you are earning £10k a month would you aspire to earn £100k a month. It is cheap, materialistic, lonely and actually very very sad.

I am lucky enough, through a real self employed role to earn well. I could if I wanted, leverage myself some more and earn some more money. At what cost? My health, my friends, my family?

No thank you.

Life will have passed her by as she was never happy with the now, she will never reach her 'goals', and will alienate all the people she meets, as they will never be good enough.

A lonely, empty life ahead, if she carries on with this path.

BotOff · 29/10/2019 14:02

So Valentus huns have an event planned 3rd November at the Hilton Liverpool. I’m assuming the hotel hasn’t a clue about all the recent stuff that has publicly come to light regarding the illegal substances in their scammy products. Anyone fancy leaving some Facebook reviews to warn them?😂 Consider it our public duty to save more victims from Salon and her disgusting cronies!

FranceTeam · 29/10/2019 15:14

How many people are there in the UK doing an MLM full time ? Can’t be that many surely ?

JackDelaney · 29/10/2019 15:26

@BotOff

Good idea.

Who knows who might get sucked into this awful excuse for a company.

I really wish they'd fuck off scamming people.

BotOff · 29/10/2019 17:53

They won’t fuck off while scum like Salon and her cronies are making money and it’s why we should all do our bit.

This thread has been instrumental in bringing down Forever no doubt about it but I believe there are now far worse needing attention namely Valentus.

They are really attracting the lower income families and more vulnerable in society, it’s awful to witness as they are only making the likes of Salon richer the vile creature🤢

Spongebobette · 29/10/2019 20:09

Educated bot is desperately desperately trying to project an image of wealth and success

She’s not employed, has no income and is trying to create a brand so women will give her money to learn to be like her

She’s so shallow, she’s all surface