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MLM Bot Watch 51: the Cult of multilevel marketing

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BSintolerant · 22/05/2019 18:17

Lies, creative accounting and the Law of Reaction. Network marketers, we’re onto you - and so is the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p076n2hg

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fromdownwest · 04/07/2019 21:24

WOW - Imagine all the hours and time to get £40.55. That is shocking. How much gloop must the top bots sell to afford those houses and cars?

FranceTeam · 04/07/2019 22:03

Well the TS Life team have been treated to a trip to Times Square. So generous of the company to take them there 😂

SSDGM · 04/07/2019 23:36

Broke still appears to be in FB jail again.

RU bots still claiming no one EVER got ill from drinking the previous illegal coffee blend and the delay in the deliveries are because of huge order numbers and not because the product hasn’t even been shipped yet. I want it to go the same way as all the other coffee pyramids so badly.
Anyone know what’s happened to Vida Divina? Last thing I knew the boy bot who went with Messiah to TS then got paid to go back to VD has gone to RevitalU so maybe the money in the uk dried up?

ImpracticalCape · 05/07/2019 04:30

@fromdownwest the top bots don't sell that gloop. Yawn boasted she has very few customers. Top bots make money from recruiting vulnerable low income people putting in their start up cost and buying crap to make 'promotion', they then recruit, they then recruit etc etc etc.
Top bots are getting a cut of all that. They aren't actually making money from selling the product. Everyone knows that!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 05/07/2019 08:54

Wow, I somehow missed that Messiah has another mini-messiah on the way Shock.

Whiterangey · 05/07/2019 09:14

There are more mlm products sitting in garages and homes than are actually used.

I can remember reading a news story linked on pink truth about someone who had something like $22,000 worth of product stolen from her car. She had that amount of product which she had bought to get and keep promotions and hopefully sell.

The general consensus was that she didn't have it stolen but said she did for insurance purposes.

Plenty of bots have that amount of product sitting around.

Bruvs last visible post on his Facebook shows him posing with 10 C9's and F15's that he was trying to sell.

That's about £1000 worth of product right there.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 05/07/2019 09:40

I would love to know how much stock there is floating around peoples garages and spare rooms.

Other things I'd like to know:

  • How is Yawn coping with the heavily reduced use of social media? It must be strange leaving the house in the morning without posting at least one selfie!!
  • What's happening with Castle's bruv? Has he quietly got a J.O.B, maybe back in the police force?
  • What's the story behind Castle's brief move to the Canaries? They were hardly there for longer than an extended holiday

(there are many more questions as you can imagine but this is just what I was thinking about this morning)

suedoname · 05/07/2019 10:29

@SSDGM my friend who keeps in the circle and tells me the goss, heard that VD hasn't paid its reps and no one can get answers as to why or when they'll be paid.

Boybot if it's who I think you're talking about was recently outed for DV. He moved to RU and seems to be the new poster boy while other leaders in the company are reduced to posting about the wonderful CEO. There's been drama about reps not being paid there as well.

27pbot seems to have gone quiet this week after nailing 2 weeks of being consistent with his "I'm now a confidence coach" posts. If you haven't watched his hilarious awkward lives you need to. He has no idea what he's talking about and stutters all the way through repeating himself.

"What does it mean to be confident? What... does... it... mean? What... is confidence? What does it all mean?"

He's currently selling a course on how to do confident lives Hmm

MLMsuperfan · 05/07/2019 11:57

I love that Broke was suspended from FB about a week after making another "how to beat the Facebook algorithms" live. I think his original account was banned shortly after his first beat Facebook tutorial.

DownThePan · 05/07/2019 14:32

Spotted another thread about MLM neighbours: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3630030-Aibu-to-think-shes-out-of-order

BSintolerant · 05/07/2019 14:37

Wow, I somehow missed that Messiah has another mini-messiah on the way shock.

Is this the Fourth Coming? Grin

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Whiterangey · 05/07/2019 16:17

No idea what is going on with the castle clan. They were all business as usual then suddenly changed during the global rally. The exact moment was when Castle got her greatly reduced cheques. She still hasn't posted a photo showing the amount.

I think she was expecting the $120k she got last year before they changed the rules so those at level 1 don't do so well.

They all went quiet on social media and Castle never went back to Spain, which was weird considering her mum had flown out to Spain and was staying in their rented home out there looking after castles son until they returned.

It all changed really quickly after the global rally.

9dartfinish2nd · 05/07/2019 16:38

I think they know the game is up, it's all about saving face now.

Reaching the giddy heights that some FLP Bots reached a few years ago, the reality check that inevitably follows when it comes crashing down is a humilating one, they spend their lives on social media showing off how successful and wonderful their lives are and now the boom days are over and cheques are vastly reduced or non existant in some cases, I genuinely believe don't they know how to deal with it.

FranceTeam · 05/07/2019 17:24

Is the collapse of the castle clan a good thing for lower ranked bots like Yawn? ie they can mop up the recruits who would normally be swayed by the more successful castles? Also means she is next in line for any bonuses thrown down by the head office ?

danbarnes · 05/07/2019 17:28

Has Kerry Katona joined Herbalife?

FranceTeam · 05/07/2019 17:36

Probably got her powders mixed up...

gotmychocolateimgood · 05/07/2019 18:03

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Castle household. Serves the greedy buggers right.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/07/2019 18:16

@FranceTeam - The discomfiture of the Castle clan will benefit nobody at FLP UK.

It is merely a further clear indicator that the whole thing is going down the pan.

Even if she stops all out botting, Castle has no reason to leave FLP until the income from her fast dwindling downlines becomes less than it costs her to remain 'active'. No one will be mopping up her downline.

To simplify, the pyramid crumbles from the bottom, as more lowly bots leave than fresh ones join. This means that those at the top of the pyramid keep their heads above water the longest.

There is no one left for Yawn to gobble up that might otherwise have gone to Castle. If anything, Castle's success was part of Yawn's recruitment spiels.

The likes of Yawn, BFF, Homeschool, Ph.D. et al. stopped receiving cheques last year. This year, it's the next tier up, e.g. Rarebot & Castle, who've really felt the pinch (and are on course to be chequeless next year, unless it's a consolation 'sad yoga mat' tube cheque.

Next year, it's the very top of the UK tree (Uber, Bloodsucker and, to a certain extent, Tokenmanbot) whose earnings will disappear. This lot were protected this year by a drastic re-jigging if the bonus scheme to ensure that the headline cheques remained impressive and that those who know where the numerous (I hope figurative) bodies are buried remain on board.

Sexy Rexy, however, does not run a charity. He will pull the plug on the whole UK operation as soon as it threatens not to make money. The only thing that might hold him back is the sort of message it would send to top bots in markets that are still growing (although the fact that a plummeting UK actually rose in the country ranks would seem to indicate that FLP is dying on its arse in more than just the UK).

BangingOn · 05/07/2019 19:22

Really insightful post Twenty. I wonder whether Brexit could be used as a reason for pulling out of the U.K. Not because it’s actually an issue, but because it provides a convenient smoke screen for Bots in other countries who believe what they are told without question.

gotmychocolateimgood · 05/07/2019 19:53

I think you're exactly right, Twenty. Castle etc realised at the rally it was all going to shit. They're just trying to rinse the last of the marks that are silly enough to sign up / have been living under a rock and don't recognise the scam for what it is. In the meantime they must be wondering what comes next.

gotmychocolateimgood · 05/07/2019 19:55

Newgoldenbot is in FL in Castle's downline, Bruv has a pic of him smashing his promotion a few months ago.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/07/2019 20:12

And also smashing a Miehle hob by dancing on it, but that one oddly disappeared...

DownThePan · 05/07/2019 22:14

@Twentytwentyhindsight And having the cheek to leave a bad review on AirBnb too!

I wonder if they'll regret leaving the day jobs that at least offered a decent pension

FranceTeam · 05/07/2019 22:58

Twenty, good points. I guess I was wondering if it made things marginally easier if you move up the ranks even if it is by virtue of the ones above you leaving.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/07/2019 23:25

@FranceTeam - not really, your money comes from those below you, so you don't 'inherit' anything if your upline leaves,

e.g. if Castle were to leave, her downline would go to Rarebot. Nothing would change for that downline, except Rarebot would be taking a slightly bigger cut from it (at the rate Castle did), as would her upline (at Rarebot's former rate), etc.

It's all a bit abstract anyway, as at the current rate, no one will have any downlines to pass on if (when) they finally jack it in.