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MLM Bot Watch 51: the Cult of multilevel marketing

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BSintolerant · 22/05/2019 18:17

Lies, creative accounting and the Law of Reaction. Network marketers, we’re onto you - and so is the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p076n2hg

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9dartfinish2nd · 20/06/2019 12:57

Anyone see the post over on MLM Lies Exposed FB group about the FLP Hun trying to get teachers to quit their jobs to join up.

Couple of damning comments from ex-flp victims.

spanfan · 20/06/2019 17:24

Wow. PhD. Someone needs to reign her in. 😂😂😂😂.

She's a charlatan.

I feel like she should be exposed. Using her PhD to give her legitimacy.

I'm 9 mins in and already the disclaimer has been forgotten. "I promise this formula will make you a million"

😲😲😲

Sunshineandshowers81 · 20/06/2019 17:46

Someone I follow on beach body is sharing the story of how MLM gave her a baby as she was able to pay for IVF due to it. Apparently anyone who is struggling to conceive just needs to join BB then they will be able to have IVF too

MLMsuperfan · 20/06/2019 17:49

@Sunshineandshowers81 that could be a new low.

Whiterangey · 20/06/2019 20:28

The ex FLP bot on MLM Lies is my new favourite person. She is not being quiet about her experiences and what she has seen.

Not all heroes wear capes.

CodenameVillanelle · 20/06/2019 21:08

Did anyone watch nurse's live? 1 person went apparently. Nurse Hmm

ImpracticalCape · 20/06/2019 21:35

Nurse didn't seem to do the promised live. Have to admit I peeked at her page at the time it was due to see the turnout and... tumbleweed. I think the fact there was only going to be her on it made her realise it was fruitless. The invite is still up there though.

Hopefully this has made her realise no one is interested.

MLMsuperfan · 20/06/2019 22:38

She's done lives before (humdrum), not sure why this one needed hyping up.

Maybe the tumbleweed has lent her a clue.

GimmieTheCoffeeAndNooneDies · 20/06/2019 23:10

I'm a Facebook refusenik so don't understand much about lives.

The ones I've seen seem to have the bots saying things like ,'Hi Julie, Hi Sarah, Hi zoe, no Lucy, it isn't to late to put in an order,'. Are these people really there, or is the bot just making them up so it looks like people are watching?

CodenameVillanelle · 21/06/2019 06:03

They are there, people post whilst watching to say they are there and that's what the bot is responding to. The messages appear on their screen in real time (or at the time they were sent, if the video is being watched on replay)

gotmychocolateimgood · 21/06/2019 09:01

I watched half the live on replay. There were no comments or likes (they float up on the screen so you can see them). Basically she used an old school flip chart book issued the FL to share such gems as 'willable income', 'uncapped earning potential' , 'amazing trainings'. All textbook. I lost interest half way through.

ImpracticalCape · 21/06/2019 09:19

@gotmychocolateimgood are you saying nurse did the live? Why can't I see it? I even tuned in live but nothing to be seen?

Hunbot · 21/06/2019 11:09

I am so angry. I am a financial advisor and PhD is a bloody liability... How many people will get their number, realise they haven't got a hope in hell and go fuck it?

So if you have a 50k lump sum and 24k a year after tax (so realistically 40k earned income) disposable so after all bills are paid then you can have 1.4 mil in the bank when you are 60 and retire.

So if you are in the top 1% of the population you too can be rich like me. No shit sherlock.

I am sorry Debbie the part time cleaner from Leeds but that advice isn't for you. Following that will not make you a millionaire.
She also neglects inflation and pensions.

Here is some actual advice to make your money work for you as much as possible that can be related to normal people.

  1. pensions. If you are able to save into a pension do it as soon as you can. Save as high a percentage as to at least get the employer max contribution as this is free money. If you are near the 50k higher rate/child benefit drop off and can afford to then drop just below it through salary sacrificing extra money into your pension. This means you keep the child benefit and your pension is being uplifted by 40%.

  2. mortgage overpayments. If you are able to overpay your mortgage to hit a lower loan to value bracket when you remortgage then do it. If you come to remortgage time and it is a lower payment than you are used to set up a standing order to take it back to what you were paying before if you can. You won't miss the money

  3. debt. If you are in debt then snowball it. Do a budget planner and work out how much you can afford to pay a month (put some towards an emergency fund so hopefully you won't need to touch the cards) if you can afford say 500 a month and the minimum payments are 300 then allocate the extra 200 to the highest interest rate. Keep paying the same amount until the highest interest is cleared. You then take out next highest but keep paying 500 accross the board.

  4. investing. If you are in the realms of being able to invest serious money get a financial advisor. Getting it wrong can cost a fortune.

Dont get a car on finance if you can avoid it. Buy a cheap car, save up the amount you would have been saving paying the finance and then get a better car when you have the money. A car on finance is a never ending treadmill it is almost impossible to get off.

Last but not least anything is better than nothing. The main thing anyone can do is live within their income. As Mr micawber said in David copperfield 'annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen points and nineteen shillings and six pence, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual income twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.

Bugger off phd.

spanfan · 21/06/2019 11:23

Hunbot, I think I love you. 😎

Brilliant post. Thank you.

Hunbot · 21/06/2019 12:04

To add on pensions a good aim is half your age as a percentage to get 2/3 of your income in retirement.

E.g if you start paying into a pension at age 22 you should aim to pay in 11% of your salary as a combination of employee and employer (so if your employer pays 5% you should pay 6). You can keep it at 11% your working life. If you don't start paying a pension till 40 then to get the same figure at the end you need to pay 20% of salary for the rest of working life to make up for it.

JasperRising · 21/06/2019 13:22

Slight sidetrack but if you start paying into a pension at half your age then stop for a while and come back to it, do you start at half your new age or go back to half your original age?

Pensions must be a nightmare for bots as it requires you to have a profit and know what it is. Plus if they are doing this full time but not making a profit/doing tax returns presumably their NI contributions are at risk once their kids are older?

gotmychocolateimgood · 21/06/2019 15:11

This was Nurse's live. She went through the flip book and read it out while drinking a glass of wine

MLM Bot Watch 51: the Cult of multilevel marketing
fromdownwest · 21/06/2019 15:25

@hunbot - not just me she enraged then?

Little entitled spoilt brat trying to play in the real world of money and giving dangerous and or/ idiotic unrealistic advice.

I've searched Trustnet for this elusive 8% per year guaranteed for 20 years and I can not seem to find it? Maybe that is her next live.

SnoogyWoo · 21/06/2019 15:31

On the live nurse did the other day she said she was on her day off from her nursing job and that it was great her home based business enabled her to do that and get jobs done Grin

No you were on your day off like millions of others and that’s what you do!

Spongebobette · 21/06/2019 16:50

I suppose she had to pay for the flip book too.

Whiterangey · 21/06/2019 19:55

It's success day tomorrow. The room they are using looks like the smallest yet. They are also changing to tables and chairs. Big round tables with chairs, like a cabaret read how it was described.

That way the room will look fuller as the tables will take up a lot of space. There is a video on the mc's Facebook page.

Success days will be changing apparently. I wonder what they will do to them to make them appear not as likely agents as they are now.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 21/06/2019 20:37

Why is Yawn's FB page suddenly showing photos galore from 2015?

Is she remembering the good old days when she used to mix with the likes of Uber, Welshbot etc and was a cheque-bot too.

Nowadays it's no cheque and mixing with the likes of nurse and other unheard of bots who quickly drop by the wayside.

DownThePan · 21/06/2019 22:00

How many of the people on the line-up of speakers for Success Day actually received a cheque? Bloodsucker's on there but not sure the others received anything, did they?!

fromdownwest · 21/06/2019 22:30

What a way to spend this glorious weekend, hotel tonight away from family then a room full of whooping and inane drivel all day tomorrow.

Such a family friendly flexible job

GoldenKelpie · 21/06/2019 22:57

Can't see Nurse's tumbleweed live but she did post this message earlier tonight "...will reply to all messages about product orders, business enquiries and planning meetings tomorrow...off for an early night..." Sadly I don't believe she has had any messages. How does she feel lying to everyone? Can't be healthy practicing deception 24/7.

On a more positive note, her little boy is SO CUTE!