Bot Watch 49- exposing MLMs for the scams they really are. You won't make money and you will lose friends!

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@Bovneydazzlers - not sure where you got that breakdown of the CB calculation, but the 2018 policies & procedures doc. Shows more weighting towards the higher level bots than that:

@dickiedavisthunderthighs she says she’s a community nurse, is she a psychiatric nurse?

I really hope she’s not talking to her patients about the business opportunity or selling them stuff

@Spongebobette 100%.

So levels 2& 3 take a share of the first half as well, and level 3 take a share of the second third, while the final sixth goes to level 3 alone.

(If that makes any sense...)

So there will be much more than $1 million still to come (indeed, some individual non-UK bots may well make that on their own.

As for the fact that the UK has risen slightly in the rankings while being in decline in absolute terms signifying that FLP is decline, that is not necessarily true (although I would obviously want it to be).

It may just mean that a couple of countries are declining more rapidly than the UK, while others at the top have grown more than enough to cover that decline...

Whatever the actual figures, the fact is that FLP is doomed in the long term in each and every market by virtue of it being an unsustainable pyramid scheme.

Cults like to keep their members tired so that there’s little chance they’ll question what they’ve got themselves into and it’s so much easier to brainwash tired people - especially if they’re brainwashed to start with.

Nursebot’s too far gone. May as well let her get on with it. Let’s hope it’s not too long before she realises she’s wasting her money and precious time on this earth funding Yawn’s lifestyle and enabling Yawn to con others just like her.

Has Yawn got a cheque this year or did she get a big fat hairy pustule of nothing like she did last year?

Nursebot might give it up when she doesn't qualify for the trip next year. I don't see her quitting before rinsing her pockets to try and get that incentive that's being dangled infront of her.

Did yawn get a tube check or no cheque?

Well the excitement must have been too much for me as I fell asleep on the sofa at 8 30pm. I only had lemonade in the end!

I can really see Yawn working in one of the makeup counters at Debenhams or similar. Genuinely think she'd be good at that.

You know, if everyone joined Nurse's team it would just be boring. Too easy for her. She likes a challenge. My word, she looks stressed.

I bet Yawn is drowning her sorrows with the 2 litres of vodka she bought at the airport in her room.

Nurse says the rally trips are "all expenses paid" and "five star accommodation", is that accurate?

She says she gets products at "wholesale price" - I know that is stretching the truth massively, since she may forgo her own cut but the upline above her are all getting a cut, hence her "wholesale" being considerably more expensive than an equivalent product in a shop.

Of course they'll claim there are no equivalent products in the shops, there's is higher quality blah blah. They have to do this because otherwise they look totally uncompetitive.

Twenty twenty - that's interesting - I used this (older) policy:

gallery.foreverliving.com/gallery/GBR/download/Policies/CompanyPolicySept2012.pdf

They obviously decided to change it at some point in the last few years, they obviously needed to bulk out the big cheques to increase amount of people sucked in, at the expense of the level 1 people.

I have an FLP bot on my IG. She posts more about it on that than she does on FB. 👀 I thought she would have been Welsh bot but obviously not 😂 she's not at the rally.

I have an FLP bot on my IG. She posts more about it on that than she does on FB. 👀 I thought she would have been Welsh bot but obviously not 😂 she's not at the rally.

Roomies book is about thriving after surviving

I still can’t work our nurse 😣

@Underhiseye2 nurse Is looking for a new hairdressers- somewhere within the Oldbury, Smethwick, Blackheath or Rowley area. In desperate need of a haircut and colour.

Hope that helps

I am part of the minority who doesn’t feel sorry for Nurse bot. She’s lying to try and hook people into joining under her. She clearly already knows that it’s about recruitment and faking it to make that happen.

I follow another bot (now on Revital U but has gone through many MLMs over 2 years). Like Nurse, she keeps getting duped and is vulnerable/gullible. Both of them, though, lie to try and recruit. Both of them have failed to recruit because they are bad liars, but the fact remains that they would happily con others if they could.

In Nurse’s live earlier this week she also linked her nursing to the hand sanitiser, saying that her colleagues loved the stuff. I dislike her attempts to use her real job to endorse and give credibility to her rubbish, overpriced aloe stuff.

Nurse and my other bot are vulnerable, but they also have no morals.

Can we take a brief hiatus from (diminishing) cheque-watch to talk about Arbonne. A bot I used to work with is absolutely insistent that she focuses on retails sales, not ‘team building’, but didn’t answer my question when I asked her how much of her income came from sales to people outside the pyramid (we got into a bit of a debate when I shared the BBC3 documentary on Facebook). She’s properly drunk the Kool Aid, and is carting her entire family off to Vegas soon for some more expensive brainwashing. She can ill afford this I’m sure of it.

Anyway, a lot of the top Arbottes seem a bit more cloak and dagger than Forever Shite. Their Facebook profiles aren’t totally public, and because there isn’t an annual cheque waving jamboree, it’s difficult to know how much, if anything, they’re likely to be earning. Can anyone in the know shed any light on it and is Arbonne going down the same pan in the UK as FLP (fingers crossed...)?

@StrongTeaDropOfMilkNoSugar - a good place to start is Companies House, where you can look at their accounts.

Currently, the 2017 accounts are the latest ones on view.

There are people much more qualified than me, but it looks like:
-They remained broadly flat from 2016 to 2017

• Their gross profit margin is huge
• They pay their directors a huge amount of money

@Bovneydazzlers - yes, that's what it looks like.

also, I think that using the old system, it could theoretically be possible for someone on a lower level to get a bigger cheque than someone on a higher level (depending on the various qualification criteria & number of qualifiers).

@twenty thanks! Interesting reading. Looks like they had a downturn in the second half of 2017, that they’re blaming on Brexit

Looking forward to reading their 2018 accounts later this year to see if the trend continued!

Arbonne actually publish the average income statement for their bots, it’s a bit misleading as they don’t include the ones who are inactive, but it does show that the vast majority make a tiny amount

Yawn is the number one business builder in the Midlands apparently, does that mean she's going to get a cheque?

@StrongTeaDropOfMilkNoSugar - you can find more stuff about Arbonne if you scroll down this page;

botwatch.blog/2016/06/21/directory-of-mlm-information/