MLM Bot Watch 48 - Don't miss the BBC Documentary investigating the truth about Multilevel Marketing / Network Marketing!

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Don't miss the BBC Documentary which is to be broadcast on BBC 3 & BBC iPlayer on the 27th April and BBC 1 on the 8th May!

Why do all the princesses go mad over those tacky fake roses??

"Who wants to #workfromhome and be a #girlboss?"

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Yawn had posted her monthly orders and it's obvious she is her next customer and she is offering to get get personal cc's up so she can get her bonuses.

2 C9's for her and Mr Yawn, a Sonya cleanser, which is expensive, most be over £400 worth of aloe crap that she is paying for.

I doubt she is actually doing the C9, she has done so many she knows they don't work. She will probably keep them in stock in the hope business improves and she gets enough orders in a month that she doesn't have to add to by buying short herself.

That is a lot to spend, not to mention 2 car payments on the months they don't qualify, which I wouldn't be surprised if that was almost every month now. Add the expensive mortgage in as well when she read expecting the boom to continue. Also the expenses she incurs by travelling the country brainwashing people.

Almost forgot the £188k director's loan.

Not looking good for the number 12? top UK bot.

Thanks @thetemptationofchocolate.

For the pressure on the downlines to be maintained, there must have been a lot more face to face meetings (in the absence of zoom calls, webinars, online training & presentations, etc.)?

Do you think that added extra pressures - Not just in terms of time & travel, but feeling you were more answerable to someone you were seeing in real life and felt more strongly that you had to please them (if you see what I mean)?

Also the attraction marketing stuff, was that a thing then?

Nowadays it is relatively easy to project (false) images of wealth, lifestyle, etc. on FB and other platforms. That must have been much harder to fake in the '90s?

Omg nurse bot is literally begging friends and family to ‘support her’ buy buying something from her (on her business page)

Then, later, saying she’s had lots of messages and orders

This is not businesslike behaviour

Tragic

She had one comment on her business page and that was a question. I doubt her friend will buy the facial scrub given the price. Or she will this one time and never again. The were no less or comments on the post thanking friends for helping her. You would expect then to say something, like good luck or how pleased they are to help out.

Get bizniz posts get zero likes and comments, it's heartbreaking.

Does she still have to be selling a certain amount of cc's each month to stay active even if she's on the bottom of the pyramid?

@DoraExplorer99 will know; does a lowly bot need to sell 1CC a month or something?

How often do people need to kick their bad habits on the c9? You are not kicking your bad habits as in a couple of months you will say the same bloody thing again.

Do you think Yawn has said something to her after the video moaning about her friends?

She does not have to make any targets at this level, but her only FLP income will be the commission on her sales. It looks like she has already spent a lot on 'becoming a product of the product'.

It's heartbreaking to watch, but I honestly believe it would be for the best if she sells nothing. It will force her to give up quicker.

It will strain her relationship with her friends, but judging by her posts, that is already under strain. If they make sympathy purchases, Yawn will use this to say "I told you it worked". Although this will give her false hope, it is unsustainable, her friends will soon lose patience (and resent her acting as if they owed her a living as the price of her friendship).

It may sound a bit brutal, but the sooner she is forced to quit, the lesser the damage will be in the long term, both in terms of finances and relationships (not to mention mentally).

Yawn may have said something about going public with the friend thing. Telling her that her friends are only her friends if they support her bizniz is a brainwashing technique to get her away from negative influences. Actually verbalising it in a video which will push her away from anyone who could possibly buy anything may be a no-no.

Not that Yawn cares if Nurse is buying the cc's herself as long as Yawn profits. We all know that nurses have money to burn.

In a proper business one of the most important things is to keep track of your accounts which is the opposite of mlm. I dread to think how much nurse has already spent.

I am going to celebrate when nurse leaves, I am really rooting for her to see the light. She comes across in her videos as a really nice person. That in itself will mean she will fail at mlm.

I find it heartbreaking
She says she’s very organised; I hope that means she’s keeping records of her expenditure and isn’t confusing the amount she receives mid month from FL as profit.

Nurses have even less money to burn when they have gone down to working 2 days a week on the promise that their new biznis would more than make up for the lost wages, while allowing her to be there for her son.

When being roped in, bots are told that their circle of friends will be their initial clientele, as they will want to support her business and that they will fall in love with the products once they've tried them. "All you need to do is get a few of them to drink the aloe regularly and your business will start to take off". This will have seemed to make sense, but unfortunately very few people want to ingest foul gloop with no proven benefits after trying it once. I imagine her friends are not in a financial position where they can afford to substitute stuff they have used for years for inferior quality products at eye-watering prices just to be supportive.

How far down the rabbit hole she is will determine whether she realises this, or decides to break away from her circle of friends because they are 'unsupportive'.

I expect that she is already in the hole by a few hundred quid, what with the business in a box, the samples that would win her friends over, and being her own best customer. A two day a week nurses salary will not sustain this for long. Hopefully, simple finances will force her to jack it in sooner rather than later. Yawn has been around for long enough to realise there is not much more money to be squeezed out here, and will have the next victims in her sights.

So she’s spending over 150 (?) quid a month on products? I mean if she has no orders she has to buy stuff herself? I imagine her mum and a friend or two might order out of misplaced loyalty but she’ll struggle to get 1CC of orders every month I think.

Lurking these threads for a while. One of the most heartbreaking things was NurseBot saying in one of her lives that her first goal with FL was to earn £300 to take her son to a theme park. She's been at this for a good 6 months and presumably nowhere near what would be a measly £50 income a month over that time...

With the money she is likely to have spent on FL she could have taken him to the theme park multiple times. That is absolutely disgusting. Yawn will be dangling that goal in front of her telling her it will happen while encouraging her to spend hundreds, if not thousands buying aloe crap.

I hope nurse watches the documentary.

I can't find it on BBC1 is it still going to be shown there or is out just BBC3?

Off topic but I find it shocking how expensive theme parks are these days.

Bare faced bloody lies by yawn saying lots of her team pick up chairman bonus cheques. She doesn’t even receive them herself now. I just don’t understand the lies and how others don’t pull her up in it.

Can’t wait to see you collect your cheque this year! I have a feeling it will be the exact same amount as last year eh?

I went and looked and my reaction was that the c word came out of my mouth. I've got more chance of starring in the next Hollywood blockbuster than a team member of hers has of getting a cheque in the next 3 years, or ever.

She just has to keep dangling those carrots in the hope of getting the income she used to get.

twentytwenty re. attraction marketing. We were told we should wait to get things we wanted, until we could afford to pay cash from our profits (ha ha!). However, the top bots flashed the cash about a bit, even the ones who were still not raking it in after climbing up the ladder. So I suppose they were using it on us.
You are right about the online training & stuff like that - it really didn't exist. This was before everyone had a mobile so it was all analogue. But that meant a lot of time going to meetings, with added travelling time, huge phone bills and lots of driving about. What with doing a FT job as well, you can imagine this didn't leave much time for normal life, or analysing what was really going on.
Yes, there was HUGE pressure, but I don't think that's any different to nowadays, it just came at you in a different way.
I have mentioned a turning point in one of these previous threads, that made me think, hang on, this is not all it's cracked up to be, but I think my breaking point was MIL's death. We'd spent a year going from work to hospital to bizniz meetings, then when she died one of our uplines said, 'I am sorry, take as much time as you need' and I thought 'fuck it, why couldn't you have said that while she was still alive?' I was out, mentally, from that point.

Thanks chocolate.

A genuine question on people who follow or have followed these bots.

When they are posting pictures of income and cheques showing how much they earned 3 years ago, did you not think it was crass / odd.

Would people feel the same way if one of your well paid friends posted their P60 on Facebook?

I find the whole wealth disclosure acceptance very odd. I understand why they do it, it is more, how people around them see it as acceptable that confuses me.