MLM Bot Watch 42

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This is the 42nd thread in a long series about the dangers of network marketing/ MLMs such as Forever Living, Ariix, NuSkin, Arbonne, Younique, TS Life, and MANY MANY more!
Posts here will give examples of the lies told by 'top bots' who portray luxury lifestyles in order to lure in new victims and of the other techniques and brainwashing used by MLMs
Over 90% of people who join an MLM end up LOSING money. Always bear that in mind when considering paying money to join!

If the ex Valentus Diamond was on £100k with Valentus and now earns £100k a year with her coaching business why has she stayed living in a small flat while doing 14 hour shifts in her J.O.B? And £9 for a load of "ask the universe" bollocks? I'm currently reading my friend's book on Kindle which is top of the Sunday Times Bestseller list - cost me less than that and is significantly better written.

I'm going to write a book, i've decided, mainly because i'm the perfect person to do it.

I write a lot of total rubbish and I can write about nothing much for ages. It will be competitively priced at only £8.

Valentus Diamond just left her job yesterday.

Wasn't her nickname something like soft focus bot because of how filtered her photos are?

No, Soft-focus Bot is the Valentus Diamond who defected to FM World and is now #smashingit there. She is extremely filtered all the time.

The sample is comedy gold. 😂😂😂

I'm confused by this coaching business. From what I can tell, the coach people to coach... Is that not just another MLM style business??

And the book seems to read that they hated the hustle of MLM. But they want to help people who do it .. odd. 😂😂

I reckon the only ones who will buy are their mums. 😂😂😂

The instant gratification myth of MLM really makes me angry. Sign up to buy a box of products, and you are an overnight ‘businesswoman’, an instant ‘CEO’ of your ‘own company’. Decide you want to tell other victims of MLM how their mindset is all wrong? You are immediately a ‘global business coach’. Scribble down some self-indulgent nonsense in under a week and now you’re an ‘author’.

That’s not how things work outside of the MLM bubble. In the real world, these titles are hard-won and require years of experience, training and investment. In super-magic-unicorn-bossbabe-femalepreneur land, you just have to make a dream board and it will manifest and everyone will clap and shriek “Eeek hun! That’s amazing! You’re smashing it!” at the shitty nonsense you put your name to.

Are Wig and Sleaze pretending they are jetting all over the world?

There are some photos of things like a marina and a town and now some stupid filter with fruit on their head and I think they are trying to make out that the marina is posh and foreign, the town is somewhere foreign and expensive, and the fruit on the head means they are somewhere where those kind of fruits grow.

I know it sounds insane, but I think they are trying to make others think that those photos are not from the UK.

Yeah, they’re in Wales. They’ve been implying that they’re loving being free to just travel around and work/stay wherever, but as far as I can work out they haven’t strayed from Wales and the cynic in me wonders whether they are staying in cheap hotels/Air b&b because they’ve been evicted? The ‘recycle bot’ that was going to make their fortune 10 days ago is still not ‘off the ground’ and Wig is now promoting a new social media site that somehow makes money... a new day, a new online scam.

Ha ha ha - has Sleaze added a turban and long dangly earrings to that filtered photo? PMSL 😂😂

Why can't I follow yawn on FB?

Wig n sleaze are hilarious with their jet setting lifestyle!

Referring back to an earlier observation - it would be an interesting time for someone to leave the UK and go overseas about now. I am no expert but think you have to leave the UK for 182 days in the tax year to be non-domicile for tax purposes (please correct me if I'm wrong!).
Not sure what difference this would make to HMRC on director's loans etc but in some situations may be one less bill to face.

Castle would have to pay income tax (24% I think) on any self employed income/salary she takes through the companies to Lanzarote.

It’s only the corporation tax which is low (4%) but this will Be taxed in the UK not Canaries as UK registered companies so they won’t benefit from this (unless they are planning to set up new companies...but that would be a faf for a year and may Be hard to justify if sales come from then UK).

Therefore doubt the move is tax related. I’m not sure it is a planned, well thought out scheme that we are guessing, I think they’ve enjoyed their hol there. They seem wider family orientated to me and their UK business will suffer, so they have to like the sun enough to be worth that...

I’m not sure many expats move there to improve language skills? Do international schools even teach Spanish to 4 year olds, or are they planning for him to be in a local Spanish speaking school (Guessing most expats do not).

The diary biz, I’m incredulous people use this, everyone outside MLM clearly know anything tracked not on a smartphone is a dying business. But guess they need a diary it for their pics of planning meetings next to their coffee. They’ve had 2,400 comments on the launch video (most implying they want to buy) so wonder if 2019 will be the year they can turn round a profit.

Well, tonight's the night - when the launch to end all launches happens!!

I anticipate that just after midnight I will wake up and realise that I just can't live without a mint choc chip shake at every meal, and that I must buy, buy, buy!

(I will actually be surreptitiously watching on FB, I can't wait to hear the hyperbole that Messiah comes out with, given the build up so far.......).

Actually, I've just read Messiah's latest update, and I think he has taken the piss out of himself very well, very funny, hats off to him for once.

Oh that comedy duo who have written a book are hilarious!! If I didn’t know otherwise I’d assume its a parody. Also their FB is awful!! Full of trite suggestions and buzzwords, with nothing worthwhile at all

I do wonder if Castle’s life-changing decision is more about having a ready excuse as to why the business/money/Chairman’s bonus is down? Last year she had “personal issues” as the excuse, this year she can explain it away by the Lanzarote move... she’s not stupid, whatever cheque she gets now, she’ll be able to say “I can’t believe I still got £Xxx! I took a year off and moved my family abroad and I still got a bonus! This company is AMAZIN’!”.

I see that the house listing has changed and it's being rented out as furnished now.

Eeeeeeeek huns! Can you believe that TS Life is officially launching at midnight!

P.s.: Is a SupaNova the 'down with the lingo' version of a Supernova?

A normal person would announce their plans on facebook and give a true and accurate account of what they were doing, and why they were doing it.

They would tell people that they were renting out their house while they went travelling, or they were renting out their house because they can't afford the mortgage and will use the rent money to help out with their mortgage while renting something much much cheaper.

With MLM you have to guess as they never tell the truth when a lie will make them look better, more successful, and considerably richer than you.

I think this is probably money related, she can no longer afford the house while her earnings have decreased by so much so she has had to make other plans. Of course there is always the chance that it takes a while to rent her house, or someone wants a longer term rent. A year is not a long time when it comes to renting, especially when it comes to a family home.

She owes £350k in her directors loan account thing. That has to be paid rather shortly. That is making me break out in a cold sweat and it isn't me that owes that much. Business is declining rapidly, knowing what we know about the finances of the top FL bots at the moment I can't see her being able to pay that back.

Though that said i'm not an accountant. New amended accounts were published to her companies house page yesterday. The one published in June showed she owed nothing in the loan account, now the amended one is saying £350k. The figures are vastly different, I don't understand it all very well but does anyone have any ideas why the two accounts for the same period are so very very different?

What is everyone wearing for the big event tonight?

I will absolutely die if one of you turn up wearing the same as me, this event is so important that i'm going all out. I may even change my pajamas.

Now that the launch I here, I’m gutted that I didn’t listen to all the disciples and get in on the ground floor. Now I’ll never be a millionaire and I’ll never bask in the choc-chip glory of this incredible opportunity.

#dontcry

Me too, I feel so stupid, it looks like we are destined to live our lives in poverty, with low self esteem.

When the Messiah and his Disciples overtake Jeff Bezos as the richest people in the world, we are going to have to explain to our children that we had the opportunity but we just didn't love our families, or ourselves enough to take the leap.

I am picturing my children as they get older, never having tasted the sweet taste of success and mint choc chip shakes.

I am so ashamed.

As he has so arrogantly predicted, we’ll all come crawling and weeping for forgiveness when they’re living in their mansions and buying their yachts. Stupid me with my stupid career and job security! Why am we such an idiot!!!!

The tragic thing here is that his disciples are saying those things about us, and saying all the good things about themselves, and they truly believe it.

There are women right this moment eagerly anticipating midnight and beyond. There is someone living either on or close to poverty who has begged and borrowed to find the money to join, who is dreaming of better things for her and her kids. Maybe she's been looking at property online, dreaming of the time when she can buy that dream house, same with the car. Even just putting food on the table, buying clothes for her kids and keeping them warm, dreaming of when being able to do it all and not have to worry will become a reality. Knowing that it will definitely be a reality. Maybe she has tears in her eyes every time she thinks of midnight tonight because this is everything to her, her future, her children's future and she just knows this is when her life changes.

That is really fucked up. It's horrible when you really think about it, we know 100% that so many women are going to lose lots of money but they truly have no idea and they won't listen, which isn't their fault as they have been brainwashed but it is horrible to watch people getting hurt when you know it's going to happen.

I’ve got a bottle of prosseco chilling and a tube of Pringles ready to pop to celebrate the launch.

Hi, not posted here for ages. But @whiterangey I agree.

This TS Life thing is just messed up, it’s scary. I don’t understand what this guy has over these people, but they’re just absolutely brainwashed. For months they’ve stayed loyal to...what? They’ve been so excited about something that has not existed, for all we know still doesn’t.

It just freaks me out how much these people have invested in this.