MLM Bot Watch 38 - Large cheques are not forever

[Whiterangey]

I think the members of the Anti-MLM Coalition in the UK deserves to be recognised for the reduced cheques that have been received by the Forever Living bots in the UK.

They have worked tirelessly to spread the Anti-MLM message which seemed like a pointless battle when they started.

Yet here we are, the message is getting out there, and people are beginning to get the message.

People are listening. Ex-bots are telling their stories and encouraging others to leave or not to join MLM's.

You are all awesome and have worked so hard, you deserve so much respect for helping so many people.

My feeling about most of the top bots in FL's understanding of their business is two-fold.

I believe that they are absolutely aware, once they have reached a certain stage of 'success', that said success is bought off the back of dozens, if not more, downline bots who will not make any money. They use every manipulative means at their disposal to rope in those people and keep them beavering away for as long as possible. If they are not aware of the hardships they cause, it is because they choose to ignore them in pursuit of their own goals.

This makes them devious and crafty, but not necessarily smart. It is perfectly possible for them to not realise that their pyramid is ultimately, and inevitably, going to collapse. What they are doing has worked for them in the past, and they may well believe that putting a bit more in and increasing the pressure in the down lines that remain or getting lucky and recruiting another 'unicorn' may turn things around for them. In fact, it may well do for some in the short term, despite the fact that they are doomed in the longer term.

They also (largely) have no transferable skills that they can use outside the MLM world that could provide them with the lifestyle they thought was Forever. This will make them extremely reluctant to consider giving up.

Those that can see the writing on the wall did so a while back, and saw that getting into 'emerging' markets early was the ticket to continued (but not eternal) growth.

I think this is one of the factors driving the 'serial MLMing' behaviour we have observed in a number of formerly successful bots.

Either way, they are not the ones I am going to feel any sympathy for.

To me, Mie, the answer is - I don't care. 'By their fruits shall ye know them'......

I suspect that at least some of them are too tired and 'out of it' to know that they're scamming and not doing good works. They're in cults after all.

So. I'll welcome any who leave with open arms. Those who stay, though.................

don't understand the car reference?

At the level bots like Yawn are at it would be incredible difficult for them to make a move to a different company, they would have to start from scratch, which would mean being one of the 99% who doesn't earn anything.

In Forever they have teams and managers and supervisors or whatever under them, while they could in theory sign up some of their downline under them in a new MLM themsleves and their current senior downline would be right at the bottom of the pyramid and wouldn't bring them in any money.

They are stuck. I think the only three who are okay for another year are Bloodsucker, Uber, and Castle. The rest are all in danger of going totally broke. Business was booming so they went on a spending spree which included the nice homes, heavily mortgaged, and the nice cars.

The only way to show you are successful is to spend money like water.

I doubt that many of the bots have savings. They just assumed business would carry on booming and they would get the same amount of money each year, at least, but likely assumed it would continue growing.

Salon can get away with dragging her downline from MLM to MLM because she chooses MLM's that are new in the UK so she gets in at the top, her chosen few get the next few positons and it explodes from there, quick money and then when it appears that all may not be legal, or it's a Ponzi, or whatever else, she blames it all on everything but the MLM or Ponzi model and it's on to the next one.

Those in Forever cannot do that. They are going to be totally screwed, and broke.

So Yawn is now going to drive all the way to Norfolk to spend two days 'helping launch someone's business'.

That's a long way to go...

I'd have thought that after being away for a while, she'd rather spend the weekend with the family- I thought that's what being in FL allowed you to do?

I definitely agree with you @Twentytwentyhindsight, they are absolutely 100% definitely aware of what they are doing to others. When they wave the huge cheques in peoples faces they are over 99% sure that the person who they are signing up will never make any money and will likely lose money, and friends.

Yawn doesn't wave cheques in peoples faces because she didn't get one, I haven't seen her lack of cheque mentioned here so I thought i'd better mention it to make you all aware she didn't get a cheque.

Her no cheque is such a good example as how good they are at it. On cheque night we were all waiting, some of use glued to the livestream. The amounts were going up and up and still no cheque for Yawn. Some people were posting her saying they think she hasn't got one, backing their post up with knowledge and facts about how you qualify for a cheque. I dismissed all of that because her behaviour and posts and everything pointed to a cheque, even though she hadn't said anything.

I am someone who likes learning and will trust and believe those who have more knowledge than I do, yet I wasn't having any of it. She had a cheque, I was just wrong about the amount.

Yawn's BFF has recently moved from a £1million mansion into just a normal sized house in town. She did this so that her teenage sons can be more independent and not have to rely on lifts. Not because she is broke. Her sons are also in private school and that has to be paid for. In my opinion the private school fees are a priority as her sons are at the stage where a change of school would be harmful socially and to their education. While she has harmed plenty of other families and hasn't given a shit about their children and their wellbeing, she loves her sons and for her son's sake I hope they can continue at their school. The sins of their mother shouldn't cause them pain. It has to be said though that if she thought she would get some precious cc's from signing me up she wouldn't give a shit about my children.

Yawn appears to be very careful on how many she signs up a month, I believe that is to spread new signups carefully to get her CC's so she doesn't lose her managership or whatever she is. She did sell some stuff to 5 people a couple of months ago which I believe means she sold the the most aloe crap to non-bots in the whole of Forever for the year, at least that is how she acted.

I think Yawn will be the next to 'move to a better location for the kids'

Unless Castle has been saving, a move will also be in her future. According to companies house her planners aren't doing so well. I imagine they will continue to struggle as her downline decreases as they were the ones buying them.

Well yawn is splashing out on a luxury hotel so it makes working at the weekend ok. Cause she's obviously got money to burn!

Huns, huns, huns! Can we all just chill please? I’ve heard some rumours about Privilege Car Club and I think it’s fair to set the record straight:

Don’t use the words “pyramid” and “collapse”: they’re upsetting people and it’s not true!

The leaders have merely “suspended” the scheme while they get to the bottom of some “regulatory issues”.

I for one am certain that they’ll soon get to the bottom of these issues, PCC will be back up and running, and we’ll all be driving a car for £50 per week!

I had to laugh at the way Yawn had to mention staying in a mansion to detract from the fact she's desperate enough for recruits that she's driving across the UK rather than spending her first weekend back with her family.

So 4 days ago, on their final night there, the trip to Dallas was described as ‘it never feels like work when you’re having so much fun’.
Yet 3 days later a pamper session is needed as now it’s being described as ‘a heavy couple of weeks’?

To be fair, I 'd also need a pampering break after a dreadful week crammed into a small room with a squawking roomie intent on destroying my carefully crafted false image, compounded by my failure to get a cheque, sandwiched by long flights in cattle class and followed by a weekend driving across the country in a desperate bid to save my dying biznis 5-star all expenses paid trip put in by my wonderful company.

Just shows the true feeling of some bots are only just hidden under the surface.
Potential recruits take note: your global rally is a heavy week!

Speaking of PCC, I wonder if a certain copy and paste hack eagle-eyed journalist for a local paper will do an investigative follow-up story on the shameless plug incisive story he put out on the scheme a couple of weeks back?

@twenty love your posts!

@twenty love your posts!

The bot whose business she is going to launch started back in March.

I believe it was her who made a comment on a post of Yawns about not having sold anything yet.

How is it a business that fits around your family when you are having to leave your family for yet another weekend, stay in a hotel, and drive all that way across the country?

@DoraExplorer99 Urgh I saw the baby spitting out the protein shake!

Ps sorry I ever doubted you about Yawn's nocheque, Hun!!! I honestly thought she was getting one despite your clear presentation of the facts

@Whiterangey So it's a Crisis Meeting, not a product launch?

It was a delicious realisation for me as you laid it out for us Dora. Until then, along with everybody else, the rising figures were threatening to spoil what had thus far been a most rewarding evening (unless you're a bot, of course)!

Yes, I had seen that Dora.

It looks like the bots are being told that anything botish is now off limits.

This will seriously cramp their styles, as most of them are not capable of anything more creative than copy & paste, with a few emojis thrown in.

All in all, if the rules do come in, it is of course a good thing as it limits their reach. On a personal level, however, I will be a bit sad to be deprived of some of the splendid examples of Botshite that can brighten an otherwise dull coffee break.

Still, if the huns are being told to use their profiles purely to promote their amayzing lifestyles, it means we will get more hilarious pictures of them posing next to expensive things as suspicious security guards look on...

I can't think of anything worse than to spend what looks like it will be a sunny, beautiful bank holiday weekend sat in a car driving all the way to Norfolk and back trying to save someone's already dying business they started just one month ago.

Especially after last weekend in the USA cooped up in a conference hall, if I had a beautiful family, home and pets I probably want to be around instead.

I'm on lunch with my J.O.B now and planning what I'm about to do the next three days with family/friends and a good bit of doing nothing too. Makes me grateful I got out of MLM, where weekends and holidays don't exist and need to be treated as any other day.

Yawn and other bots would be a lot happier in a basic office job and she doesn't realise it- steady income, sick pay, holiday pay and most importantly leaving the job IN the office on evenings and weekends.

I'm earning well under what is apparently the average U.K. wage but in comparison to my years in MLM I'm practically Jay Z. I can't believe what I can buy and do now, and have to pinch myself when I'm on holiday realising I'm still getting my full wages.

Why is it so brave to go to Norfolk by yourself? You are a top entrepreneururer with millions of business partners as part of your international business. A trip in a car and an overnight stay in a nice hotel is brave?

Does she need someone to hold her hand when she has a poo?