MLM Bot Watch 28 - The Yazoo iis past iits use by date, but we have a massive #lardon: Tragiicomic cultiic wampum floggiing scamalangadiingdongs liike Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Jui

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Poor woman! Just when you think bots in these schemes can't sink any lower .... That's brainwashing and the power of cults for you.

It's always a bad surprise isn't it?

I have a vague memory of a poster, many threads back, reporting on having seen an adherent emerging, rather triumphantly, from the house of a local woman who was known either to be of diminished mental capacity herself or who was the carer to a son who had diminished capacity. (I forget the actual details and the outcome although someone else may remember the account.)

Just a reminder to people that I don't respond to PMs on this topic. Absolutely nothing personal of course.

Then I'm sorry Cozie, I can't answer your previous question if you can't explain to me what you meant.

I guess I was wondering whether it might find its way to botwatchblog etc?

A friend of a friend has just posted about Dubai. She got a big cheque last year but I hear business has not been as brisk so I am wondering how big it will be this time...

Oh I see Cozie! I thought you were referring to something secret I hadn't heard about! I put it on twitter and Facebook.

Good lord I haven't just been unfriended I have been blocked entirely - she doesn't even appear on searches now. All from a bloody instagram meme and a wee rant from me. I can't believe she wouldn't just drop me a message or let me know if I'd offended her - it's just poof gone. 20 years I've known her.

I deleted my IG post as I thought I'd maybe hear from her but not heard a thing. It's sad. I lost her a while ago and the only people she really saw were her Y sisters. I could also never understand how she said her working hours were awesome yet she ALWAYS seemed glued to FB or 'super busy' answering her messages. Even I know how to switch off and I teach!

I even tried the lip stain I bought again yesterday to see if I could get it to work. They actually make me look pasty and old, and they come off as soon as you have a drink - yet she would always post pics of hers having been on 12 hours and through all her meals and drinks.

I suppose this will come to an end at some point. We'll see. Looking back she's had umpteen obsessions - making earrings, sewing stuff, she did slimming world and everything was pictures of her food, now its this. She no longer does SW.

Fruityb, maybe you could write her a letter. A proper letter through the post. Explain to her it was not your intention to upset her, that you want to remain friends even though you have a different view to her. Tell her that you would like to remain in contact but that neither of you mention her MLM. Remind her of some good times you shared and how you are sad at the thought of it ending. Tell her you will always be there for her if she decides to get in contact again. Try to engage the old person that she still is underneath all the fakery.

She could either rip up the letter and she is lost or she might tuck it away somewhere and call you one day. Either way, I think it would give you the opportunity to give her a chance and for you to draw a line under the whole thing. It all seems a bit sudden and unresolved if you leave things as they are.

That's a good idea, Toobusy. Even if she tears up the letter and ditches the pieces, she'll remember that it was sent - might make things easier when/if she comes out of her 'thing'. It also would enable fruity, as you said, to 'draw a line' under matters if she doesn't hear from her again.

Good luck, fruity, whatever happens.

I might do that. It's just like me binning anyone and everyone that badmouths teachers - id have no one in my life lol

Just try to remember, though - it's not 'her' who is doing it. (Or not the old 'her' at any rate.) It's the organisation. There might be a sliver of the old her somewhere deep inside. That's who you would be saying these things to.

Yes, that's right Cozie. There is still a sliver in fruity's friend of her old self. Fruity could try and appeal to that part by reminding her of some shared experiences to talk to that sliver.

Fruit, you could even try to appeal to the personality that your friend would have had, if it weren't for the MLM. For example, "what would the 20 year old -insert her name- do now?" That is a technique that cult counsellors try in order to get through to the victim.

Even if she bins the letter or you don't hear from her again, you will have done all you can.

I've been unfriended by BotFriend on Facebook. I'm not alone in this.

She made a post saying, "I'm having a Facebook cull, if you're one of my real friends, don't worry, it won't be you."

Given this is a friendship of over 20 years, I expected to survive the cull, but I didn't.

Turns out any friend who hasn't ordered from her, has been culled. Her new definition of a real friend appears to be, someone who hands over cash to purchase MLM crap from her.

Every member of our longstanding friendship group, from our first day of primary school, has been culled. Over 20 years of friendship, and all the laughter, tears, joy and despair we've shared, flushed down the toilet over Younique.

I'm probably being far-fetched, but it actually feels like a form of grief, as I - and many others - have lost the person we once knew.

It's not far-fetched at all - it is grief. It's a genuine loss.

One of the saddest things is that you just know that if you were offering to sign up with her, she'd be all over you.

For a short while, anyway.

LTW are being liquidated! They owe a massive amount of money to loads of people. Lots of dissapointed bots out there at the moment.

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1255814037869611&id=894726580645027

Not a surprise.

The companies House documents list 141 people and businesses that are owed money. A lot of people have lost a lot of money.

''twas ever thus.

If they've gone in to liquidation then I'm guessing these creditors have more of a chance of seeing a unicorn?

Yes, acat. Sadly.

Oh I've seen one Life Tree World bot who went straight on to Maëlle.

Dearie me

A sad thing is that if you're 'snake-oil persuadable' in one thing, you likely are in others.

Is it possible to liquidate Yazoo?

And they all scammed happily ever after.