MLM Bot Watch 20 - chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etc

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Bot Watch 19 - chat about Utah based tragicomic cultastic racketeering scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus etc etc etcThread 19
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Exactly delurker

After finding this link & Tiimeless Vie I decided to quit!!! If i hadnt found them i would still be in Forever....
Working my ass off
Not seeing my children or husband
Feeling stressed
Spending more money I didn't have to line my upline pockets
Spending more money out on crappy weekend events at £280 a time!!!
Feeling worthless as I wasn't as succesful as others even after sacrificing so much of my time
I even spent time coaching my team as I was taught and I'm trained to coach in my career outside forever so know I'm good at what I do
It's funny that those people struggled too
Yet they did all the things they were shown with me and attended all the events! Bps etc
I felt sorry for them with how hard they tried too and couldn't make it work
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The market is saturated and unfair on people!!!! A few lucky ones do make it Yes as they are lucky with who they sponsor.... That's the reality
Its all down to luck of who you find!!!!

Spare a thought for us eh! The ones who got sucked in and now have £3000 worth of debt! And gave up out decent jobs as we thought we could be as successful as you!

So whether your in Lanxarote or Essex or Wales.... wherever! You KNOW what goes on but as long your earning your bonus and CB cheque you don't give a toss!

But as you said this is business right!?

It's not sold as a cutthroat business. It's sold as a cuddly way to work from home and make money from your network.

It's all one big exploitative lie.

And then we are told we need to be "balanced".

Fuck that.

Twunk absolutely, you have to invest to get money back. Where else is this true? I have many issues with my J.O.B. but they are funding and releasing me for 10 days over the next year to get management certification, they have sent me on an assertiveness course, an interview skills course and offer a wide package of development - onsite, no cost to me and I'm getting paid while I'm at all these events. If I had to go off site I would get travel expenses and refreshments paid, and I'd still be getting paid. So what is so great about 'success days' exactly?!

Success days are now £50 for a weekend but when I went to London I had to pay petrol to get her there which was over £100 accommodation at 70 per night food all weekend £100 and then it's all money money money when your there

Stuff that you need for your business
Banners
Tablecloths
Phone cases
Event stuff

Offers on on products but it's to make you spend more!!!!!

Then the majority of the day is clapping and cheering people's success of getting to the next level and hearing their story of how they did it
Then a bit of training on how to be successful inbetween

So cost me near enough £500
Great!

I would like to see one of our visiting mlm-apologists explain how a "business owner" can be fired/denigrated or even promoted. If you are "your own boss" no-one can bully you. You make the decisions. You give yourself bonuses.

It's plain that Botfan is really cheesed off that our ongoing campaign is continuing to pay off. He/she is like a wee toddler stamping their feet in frustration because he/she cannot silence us like they can their downline.

We are making a difference, maybe a small difference, but I am so happy to hear Seen that we helped you to make the decision to leave. What would you say to other reps currently deeply involved in their MLM, and struggling like you to 'make it'? What was the final straw for you?

botfan we know you are the biggest groupie fan forever living ever had... You must be so proud to watch from the sidelines, clapping on the success of the meangirls successful
Women, Good for you, I know which side I would rather be on...

Oh btw that award... What was the title won again? There seems to be some confusion.

I would also like to say, thank you to our long term posters and our newer members for such thoughtful, well researched, insightful and quite frankly damning insight into this increasingly murky world of mlms.... Sorry botfan your incoherent bullshit just doesnt cut it here, and I would bet money that the vast majority of newcomers/lurkers on this forum can see right through your embarrassing puerile and increasingly desperate antics.

Fullyloaded that fake cheque was for £3,000 not 5k it was in US$ dollars - $5,000 = £3,000 - I don't think it's birthdaybot - more like a "RobinHood" figure in reverse (steals from the poor to give to the rich) - bot's that pretend they're not bots, flys to JO'burg, attends every success day, training, #lanzacrew .. etc etc ..... promotes FL to the max ......

What number on the board of 10, sorry 11, were you Botfan?

Pretty high up I'm guessing to be so smug and patronising

And a mathematician to boot dothemlmhustle

I am amazed by what passes for 'training' in FL

seenthelight just read what you put above, this one stands out for me.

Feeling worthless as I wasn't as succesful as others even after sacrificing so much of my time

Don't forget during all your training you'll have been told to not look left or right, not to worry about what other people are doing, it's your journey, concentrate on your own business. Worrying about how others are doing but not working on your own is why it's not working. But then in the same vein you're told to attend success days where you have to listen to how these people got their promotions and are earning £1000's per month. You're pulled in so many directions all the time, it's exhausting.

I'm so sorry to hear you came away with £3k of debt. I walked away with £1k on my credit card. Slowly paying it off

twunk I have to correct you, let's add some balance - MLMs probably are positive things for their founders no doubt in my mind that sexy rexy is doing ok out of all this ....

seen when you say you weren't as successful as others...remember they may have been using a lot of smoke and mirrors to create the impression of being successful

My relative who is in FL is constantly boasting how successful she is, but in reality she lives mortgage free (courtesy of a "good divorce" ), still works bank shifts as a nurse (despite claiming to have "sacked the boss") and her parents pay for all her "squeal look how successful I am" days out as well as being her main customers

Well corrected throwing - I will accept that Sexy Rexy is laughing all the way to the bank

I know of a bot who was very wealthy before starting FL. Mortgage paid off, kids at private school, lots of holidays etc. Looking at he facebook, as soon as she joined FL it was her amazing company that was providing these luxuries. No love, it's your rich husband/ inheritance/ savings paying for that. Nice way to take til you make it.

Has there been a FL announcement about who is getting a free hol to Greece? I've seen a few mentions but one of my bots who was 'waaaah'ing about it a few weeks ago is strangely silent now.
She is definitely going to Dubai and on the cruise though ;-)
Just like she was definitely going to SA but then didn't
Keep dreaming Hun

Is it an actual holiday or yet another networking/training event?

Cos I think sometimes they get confused about that

Yes! I have heard greece mentioned too.... 🤔🤔 but its all a tad cagey...

Yes it's the Eagle Manager 'retreat' training and a couple of days holiday in spetember this year

So whats the difference between the 'retreat' and eagle rally then? Do they have to pay for the retreat?

Quick question fellow bot watchers. Have found the timeless vie fb page and am loving it. Want to like some of the posts but will my bot who is friends with me on fb see it? I sort of want her to but also don't want her or mutual friends to think I'm taking the piss/making fun of her personally in public as opposed to doing that in private