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MLM BOT WATCH 9 - NOW FEATURING DESPERATE COUNTER PR BY MLMs who don't answer questions- lighthearted chat and posts by Eyes about NuSkin, Forever Living, Ariix, IT Works, and (insert name here)

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lastuseraccount123 · 23/02/2016 17:38

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@Timeless Vie

Note for newbies: "Downline" means people who are the lowest level of the pyramid/MLM scambralamabra.

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workingwithchimps · 23/02/2016 20:17

Niffon - what would you call my work - please enlighten me?

Melaw21 · 23/02/2016 20:18

chimps a pyramid scheme hun...

Eyespying · 23/02/2016 20:19

'eyes statement is not based on fact - he knows this as he does not have the overall figures for every MLM company out there - he has based it on one or two that were researched. Coupled with a deep seated hatred or maybe desire to expose 90% is a high figure - but base this on what? - For every person that drops out or does not make it - there are more starting each day - no different when you say - for every people that leaves this mortal earth - 2 children are born - there is churn in many things'

This response is a standard scripted 'MLM' blanket denial from persons pretending moral and intellectual authority, but who clearly possess neither. The statement offers zero evidence in support of it, and typically seeks to denigrate me personally by falsely portraying me as someone who is non-rational and motivated by hatred. These transparent tactics are identifying charactersitics of a cult.

There are currently approximately 1400 so-called 'MLM' companies registered in the USA. No one could be expected to hold data on all of them. However, individual data is not required to deduce that they all conform to essentially the same 'Amway' pattern i.e. peddling the crackpot pseudo-economic theory that endless-chain recruitment + endless payments by the recruits = endless profits for the recruits. In reality, there have been many 'MLM' front companies forced to make disclosures of their annual hidden churn/loss rates in the course of court cases and regulatory investigations down the years. What is clear, is that in every single case, 'MLM' annual churn rates are always more than 60% and have been into the 90s of % and that only an insignificant minority of 'MLM' recruits ever remain for more than 5 years. By simple extrapolation, this means that the when you take into account all the adherents of any particular 'MLM' group since its instigation, the overall hidden churn/loss rates have been effectively 100%. No 'MLM' racketeer has ever volutarily made this key-information available to the public, or regulators, in an easy to understand format, because no one would want to join any so-called 'income opportunity' where effectively no contributing participants have ever received an overall net-income.

This is why my opening common-sense question remains, and will remain, unanswered other than with a stream of predictable 'MLM' BS, babble and white noise.

My follow up common-sense questions will be met with the same predictable tactics.

workingwithchimps · 23/02/2016 20:20

Melaw21 - again you seek to cheapen the discussion with your banter - we merely try to answer questions - yet you taunt us - do you really want to go down that road?

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 23/02/2016 20:21

Nothing.... She decided she didn't want to do things properly and just stopped. Her team are still supported and she just sits in the middle doing nothing. Thats as exciting as that answers gets I'm afraid

Melaw21 · 23/02/2016 20:23

What by saying you are in a pyramid scheme? my bad 😟 I should have called it an ethical reverse funnel system! Duh! If I am gonna succeed as a parslai princess I really must brush up on my crucial #Botspeak sorry chimps, sorry... last have I let down the teamies? 😬😬

workingwithchimps · 23/02/2016 20:24

Melaw21 - how many times do you need tone told pyramid schemes are illegal?

VegoDoll · 23/02/2016 20:24

Natasha, thank you! I also told them not everyone goes into MLM for big money, but for the reasons you describe. And I was basically told I was talking nonsense.

Kanga59 · 23/02/2016 20:25

I miss Vegodoll

Hi, Hun

Eyespying · 23/02/2016 20:25

workingwithchimps says 'we merely try to answer questions,' but this is quite clearly an absurd lie worthy of a naughty child.

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throwingpebbles · 23/02/2016 20:27

Also, barnbot it is rather wonderful really to see you stating time and again that you cannot shoulder any responsibility of those rare (rare my Arse) naughty bots who make claims of vast riches / ridiculously flawed medical claims! Because that is precisely what is so awful about companies like Foreved. Their entire raison d'etre is to make bogus snake oil claims about cheap products in order to lure people into a just about legal scheme with false promises of "uncapped" income. And part of the awfulness is that all the blame can be poured on allegedly "errant" downlines while the dramatically-eyebrowed up lines and forever themselves keep their hands cleanish

Motorheadmum · 23/02/2016 20:28

Wow, this is getting interesting! It's good to see all points of view being made as up until now those of us who had the terrible experiences were the only ones who were commenting.

One question though, when someone says no they aren't interested why do FL distributors keep hassling?

workingwithchimps · 23/02/2016 20:28

Eyes - I knew it was a mistake for you to answer - as always a long winded epitaph about Amway - cults - secret squirrels and rooting tooting vampire slayers - simple fact 1400 companies - you have no concrete evidence or answer - move on and write like a book of science fiction or something

Melaw21 · 23/02/2016 20:29

Yes chimps I get it, "we sell products" "we dont need to recruit" blah blah blah... It must be incredibly frustrating to you that you are spending all this time here and not coaching your downline hun, yet not one of us is swayed by your 'argument' Essentially Its a pyramid scheme with some naff products thrown in to appease the regulators... Sorry but I guess the truth that you have been sucked in to the 'funnel' must be a bitter pill to swallow... So I can understand your resistance to accept it.

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 23/02/2016 20:30

I've answered quite a few questions on here, without being personal to anyone or getting nasty.

So can someone please explain to me as to why anyone thinks it's ok to put my address on the Internet? Talk about my children being dragged away from a support network?? Stating my family don't support me and I am moving my children to the back of beyond and therefore moving their schools and generally being a terrible mother???

Does anyone on here even know if maybe my children are absolutely loving their new home??? What sort of upbringing they had before I made a success of this??? How much my family do support and how proud they are??? Could sharing my address have possibly put my children in danger given how many drug using violent people I knew that don't like my success????

Did anyone on a "mumsnet" thread ever think that maybe they could've been wrong about "barnbot??? Nope!

Just continued to slate a hard working single mum who turned her life around! And do you know what the irony is..... When I was socialising with the dreggs of society and claiming benefits watching episode after episode of jezza.... No one had a problem!

If it wasn't so utterly ironic it would be funny.

lastuseraccount123 · 23/02/2016 20:30

melaw tsk tsk.

You know reverse funnel is a patented Timeless Vie shape.

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throwingpebbles · 23/02/2016 20:31

And look Smile you still haven't noticed my question about why forever have never bothered to apply for medical licenses for these puportedly miraculous products.....

Go on barnbot , after all you said you wanted to clear up the myths....

VegoDoll · 23/02/2016 20:31

kanga Hello :)

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lastuseraccount123 · 23/02/2016 20:32

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm worried about all the people sucked into MLMs who lose money and are picked on at vulnerable points in their lives :(

lights tealight

Not to mention developing countries, etc etc etc

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Eyespying · 23/02/2016 20:33

None of this flock of jargon-spouting 'MLM' shill Bots is going to answer the most fundamental common-sense question concerning their respective 'MLM' rackets. As far as I can see, none of them has the slightest understanding of what they have really been involved in, but their own egos prevent them from facing this self-evident reality, yet accepting their ignorance would be the first step to educating themselves.

They haven't got the beginnings of a clue how many individuals have been churned through their respective 'MLM' rackets.

Melaw21 · 23/02/2016 20:33

The funnel...

MLM BOT WATCH 9 - NOW FEATURING DESPERATE COUNTER PR BY MLMs who don't answer questions- lighthearted chat and posts by Eyes about NuSkin, Forever Living, Ariix, IT Works, and (insert name here)
CubicZirconiaBB · 23/02/2016 20:34

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