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MLM BOT WATCH 9 - NOW FEATURING DESPERATE COUNTER PR BY MLMs who don't answer questions- lighthearted chat and posts by Eyes about NuSkin, Forever Living, Ariix, IT Works, and (insert name here)

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lastuseraccount123 · 23/02/2016 17:38

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@Timeless Vie

Note for newbies: "Downline" means people who are the lowest level of the pyramid/MLM scambralamabra.

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throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:28

Of course, of course, I bet you never told your story or your daughter's to a single person when you were trying to recruit or sell to them. Totally believe you Smile

shadowplay · 24/02/2016 17:32

Natasha

Slightly confused. You said you joined in June 2014 and found that some product helped with your 13 yr old daughter's skin condition. You then go on to say your daughter's now 18.

Do fl products speed up the ageing process? I'd probably keep quiet about that hun.

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:32

Also, without wanting to get too stuck into semantics, but it is quite clear that the FL rules apply to any discussion about the products, whether you are trying to make a sale, trying to recruit, writing an article, giving training or indeed trying fairly disastrously to make out FL is not a scam on mumsnet

darceybussell · 24/02/2016 17:32

I have a question, it's more of a rhetorical one to be honest, I doubt anyone on here is going to be able to answer it.

I understand that to a lot of people who are in FL it will seem very benign. It's just a bit of aloe Vera. However Eyes has a whistleblower whose ex wife not only spent all of her own and her husband's money, she also borrowed £350,000 and used it to 'buy' promotions in FL. The whistleblower says he has proof of this and let's for now assume he is telling the truth.

Why would she do this? I find it difficult to believe that she just came up with this idea on her own. She didn't just wake up one morning and think 'I know what I need - £350,000 of Aloe Vera gel.' Someone high up convinced her and her husband that this was a good idea and that they were 'investing' for the future. If this person did this to her, maybe they have done it to other people too.

This is what terrifies me to be honest. There are always going to be lots of people just selling a bit of aloe vera, but it appears that there are also some very high up, well respected people who are somehow managing to persuade people that what they need to do is borrow money and chuck it into this system in the hope that it will lead them to financial freedom. And this isn't an isolated incident either. There are hundreds of people on the Herbalife videos all saying they were persuaded to do the same thing.

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 17:35

She was 13 when put on roaccutane! She was 16 when I joined she is 18 now!

Eyespying · 24/02/2016 17:35

NatashaBarnBotShingles offers a classic closed-logic defence. She's clearly been pretending that regularly buying, and swallowing, 'FLP' wampum products have transformed her from ordinary poor sick human into a financially free, happy, healthy human, in order to lure others into the 'FLP' trap. She now says that since she's not been doing any of that here on MN, she can't be held to account by MN members.

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:40

Thank you for avoiding the word tragicomic this time eyes my liver can't take much more Grin

it is though isn't it

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 17:42

Ok I'm gonna put this out there!

Yes you receive a small bonus for recruiting. Anything from £39 - £64 depending on your marketing plan level. (It's the difference between percentages etc)

However, you get paid far more from product sales.
So imagine I sell £500 worth of product a month to customers who like the product and reorder (much like any other product including your bread, milk shall I go on?)

If I got 10 other people to sell some too.... Can you see where I'm going with this? Bare in mind they also earn from their own sales.... Could it make sense to have 100 shops and not just 1??

If I then put the time in to help them grow their "shop" (for arguments sake) would I be rewarded in product sales bonuses???

Can you see why it doesn't pay to sign up anybody? It pays to sign up people who actually want to sell? Who want to earn??

And what do you think happens when someone like me try's a product and loves it (for whatever reason health or otherwise) ..... We are more than happy to sell it.

Unfortunately that is as sinister as it gets for most of us!

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:46

I see you have just ignored my comment how telling

Your latest claim rather contradicts your posts earlier where you defended low earnings on the basis lots of your minions don't actually want to earn very much Hmm

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 17:46

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throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:47

Also if the only reason people join is because they believe in the products then why do you all bother with all the ridiculous "uncapped six figure income" bullshit claims

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 17:49

Pebbles???? What are you even saying? I don't even understand which bit I haven't cleared up!!!!

I can assure you I can't be bothered to think of a complicated story to fabricate every 2 minutes! What I'm replying is truth from my view! There's no conspiracy to hide anything! You guys give me far too much credit to be fair!

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:49

I think forever could do with a few jobsworths!!! might stop you all breaking the law

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 17:51

Because it is achievable if you want to work for it. How pissed off would I be if I'd been earning £200 a month for 4 years and suddenly I found out I could've had a six figure income?? Why wouldn't I tell someone these are your income options??

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:53

My post at 17.32 Smile

You might need to speak to your bot friends to find out which products "in their experience" cure selective vision Smile

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 17:54

And if you don't make much money recruiting why do you all devote so much energy to recruiting????????

Eyespying · 24/02/2016 17:55

darceybussell

What's the betting that NatashaBarnBotShingles is going to ignore reality, or simply pretend that the really sinister aspects of the 'FLP' blame-the-victim cultic racket (i.e. people suddenly changing personality and wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds and years of lives) are all just a figment of our collective imaginations?

lastuseraccount123 · 24/02/2016 17:57

got a screenshot of that in case it is deleted. thankyou!!

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nextyearrodney · 24/02/2016 17:58

Is it Wine o'clock yet?

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 17:59

Every work place needs a jobsworth! I'm sure we have one somewhere!

Pretty sure we don't break the law..... I'm obviously no expert, I wouldn't have thought you could quite openly operate in a country for that many years and break the law???

..... Oh hang on, Starbucks did didn't they?? Well I stand corrected! I will make it my mission to free all coffee barista's from the claws of Starbucks from now on!

Awkwardly I did that when I recruited my friend from a coffee shop. She seems quite happy about it though.... She's weird though 😉

Melaw21 · 24/02/2016 17:59

Hi last! 👋👋

throwingpebbles · 24/02/2016 18:00

Yes, I think that rather helps prove the comments we are getting from various ex-forever people that Natasha Shingles is (along with a few other names) one of the worst bullies......

Melaw21 · 24/02/2016 18:01

Next a good way to tell will be the level of insults chimps starts banding about...

NatashaBarnBotShingles · 24/02/2016 18:01

1 shop..... 100 shops??? Which bit did you struggle with?

lastuseraccount123 · 24/02/2016 18:01

melaw it's getting hot n' here...now take off all ur lies...getting..so hot..i gotta take my lies off...

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