MLM BOT WATCH 9 - NOW FEATURING DESPERATE COUNTER PR BY MLMs who don't answer questions- lighthearted chat and posts by Eyes about NuSkin, Forever Living, Ariix, IT Works, and (insert name here)

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Note for newbies: "Downline" means people who are the lowest level of the pyramid/MLM scambralamabra.

Chimps did you choose that name because your Laptop Lifestyle is based on monkey-see monkey-do training?

I agree with Norbert on this one. I don't condone putting personal information out there because I suspect that many many people are too naive to realise how much can be found out about them and can't realistically be said to have given informed consent. It makes me very uneasy.

This very naivety, sadly, is helpful to the MLMs in recruiting distributors. I'm desperately sorry for them.

Oh vego... Who's being mean now? So dissapointed! You set the bar so high #hun!

And (with all credit to Bot Watch)

Can you explain this rather astonishing contradiction natasha?

Admit it melaw you laughed at that one...

Right slow down!!
I agree that I have put myself into a situation regarding social media, however this thread and the comments about me at that time were WRONG! Therefore unjustified! You could at any time have messages me and asked questions I have always been open and honest as much as my knowledge allows me. I can't answer every question because I don't know enough and wouldn't want to give inaccurate answers.
What I say on here is not to have anyone suddenly love MLM I respect your opinions and was merely putting mine on the table as my name was mentioned otherwise I would've happily not been the slightest bit interested.
I work ethically, I support those who need it, I am honest about the hard work it takes BEFORE someone joins and urge them to research and be comfortable with their decision. I always clearly state it's not for everyone, you need to be thick skinned for a start (this thread proves that)
I do agree with much of what u say, I don't make medical claims, however the products did help me and continue to do so. I would always tell customers it may not do the same for them so try them and if they are not happy they get their money back. I have always made sure my customers know this. I've had downline leave of course I have, some leave happy some don't. I always aim to do my best by everyone that joins my downline, and I have great manager teams that also do the same. Did I get it wrong when I started?? Yes! I spammed my Facebook and of course hounded friends BUT it was because I genuinely wanted to help them, it wasn't to rip them off or see them struggle!!! I took criticism on board and learnt from it. Do I feel ashamed of what I do?? Absolutely not!
Am I hugely successful?? For what it's done for me yes.... In the terms of "MLM success" probably not. Success for me was to make a difference, feel happy and provide my children with a calm nice life and I have done that. I have many people in my downline doing well, earning what they wanted or a bit more, some have gained confidence and some are loving the social side. Success is different for different people.
I show what I have achieved on social media to show what is possible.... I have shown from the start what I've done and many of my posts (before I knew about mumsnet) are very honest.
So as long as you build this business honestly and ethically making sure everyone knows exactly what you will face and what you will need to do to have the success you want.... I don't see anything sinister in that.

If anyone has anything else to ask please feel free to message me on Facebook, I never expected to read through so many posts and I honestly can't keep up!

I wish you all the best of luck in whatever job you do and hope that at least if nothing else you may calm down the personal attacks on people.

Any medical claim posts you see please send to our head office, I hate bad ethics as much as you do!

Thank you to everyone who was polite xx

I can confirm eyes is a parslaii power stud - have you seen the speed he types! - a man with that passion... Damn

So you came on here to clear things up but you are bowing out because we asked a lot of awkward questions and you don't want to answer them????

Sometimes, silence says more than a thousand words.

Thanks for that video, eye. Now I can see an example of the actual magic underwear, I don't have to imagine a a pair of budgie smugglers .

BS - did you choose that name because of the crap you speak or was it something else?

Ps. natasha i really hope one day you manage to escape FL's clutches too. Really, genuinely. All you senior bots look tired and stressed and never seem to take any actual time out.

Questioning eyes pulling power is a step too far. You would not believe the stuff I've heard...

workingwithchimps also appears to be involved with a 'Mormon MLM' and 'Mormons' do wear magic underpants, and believe that Jesus was born in Missouri. You would think that that might give your average British 'MLM' adherent a reason to pause for thought, but in workingwithchimpscase, no.

chimp thanks, it's really refreshing to have a bot just admitting they're out to shill and they don't care. Just dispense with the niceties - MLM is a brutal rip-off where barely anyone makes a dime except you (allegedly) and a few like you.

That remark was uncalled for I think?

Bye natasha sorry to see you go, I'll bet some more will be along very soon to fly the mlm flag for you though! I hope it works out for you, but if it doesnt... Please do come back for support 😊, also... You might want to tighten up those personal details for the future x

chimps you sound like my 5 year olds when they argue. All you seem able to do is sling random insults around. It's a bit pointless and doesn't really help your desired image as a sophistocated cult adherent business woman

Right, I'm off to have a relaxing soak in the bath. Y'all behave now, particularly you, eye .

Wow, this has gone nuts hasn't it. Spend an evening on the kids activities and I end up 13 pages behind! Anyway, welcome natasha from me, perhaps you can help with my ignored questions from earlier, you are welcome to check me out and you'll see I haven't posted anything attacking or negative, I'm purely curious.

^LMGTFY

Ok, I'm genuinely interested for personal reasons, I don't want to get into a bun fight (yes I'm aware that I'm posting in the middle of one!); after expenses eg products, materials (packaging, promotion etc),.expenses (travel, courses, events) when you divide the residual profit by the hours you have spent on everything, from parties, email, online, ordering, speaking to people and direct selling etc, what is the hourly rate of pay?^

^LMGTFY

workingI get that you're happy with your income, however I have a steady job that pays fairly well, I only work part time so I have quality time with my children (not working while they are in the house as that is not quality time). I also know that by working more hours in this job I can earn more money, I know exactly how much more as I know what an extra hour will put into my bank without any expenses being paid out (aside from Mr tax man but then none of us can escape him!), anyway, the reason I am asking is it is surely prudent to know whether slogging for 15 hours is worth it, when I could actually earn just as much doing a couple of hours overtime. For this I think it is very important that at least an average hourly rate should be available from an upline/recruiter so people can make an informed decision. Not the harder you work the more you earn as that's just nonsense without facts to back it up. Please not I'm not having a pop, this is a genuine query/comment I feel.^

Italics fail, oops

Right - I had a great day off - back to what I do best - I may pop Back at some point when I feel the bs factor has been turned up again -happy Bot hunting - it's been spiritual!