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OK, so what are the running costs for a baby?

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SmokeMeAKipper · 30/07/2006 18:17

This must be on here somewhere but my searches either have thousands of hits or none at all, so...

Excluding capital outlay on carseat, cot, pram etc (which we hope to be given/borrow or will come out of savings), how much does a new baby cost to run per month in nursery fees, nappies etc, if both parents work full time?

DH, ever the organised money type, wants to work out how much it's going to increase our monthly outgoings before we even start ttc.

Any advice, links, warnings, recommendations etc gratefully received...

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speedymama · 31/07/2006 15:12

Good point about the nursery voucher scheme. Both DH and claim it and we are saving nearly £2000 a year on nursery fees. Nice one Gordon Also, you may qualify for tax credits - not sure what is available as we do not qualify but every little helps. Plus you will get child benefit, regardless of income.

SmokeMeAKipper · 31/07/2006 15:22

My employer?s nursery scheme (don't think any actual vouchers are involved) goes like this:
As far as I can ascertain, I'd make a 'sacrifice' from my gross salary to the tune of £550 a month, then they calculate tax, NI & pension on the remaining amount, so rather than my salary going down by £550 a month it only goes down £362. They use a chain called Kids Unlimited and seem to own all the places in three local branches, and some of the places in four others.
To be honest I had no idea that the deal they offer was so competitive, but looking at other people's nursery fees it seems I'm onto a winner.
DH is selfemployed though, so we get no help at all there.

Have also just waded through the Inland Revenue site and it looks like we might be eligible for Child Tax Credit but not for anything else ? gets very complex with DH?s self-employed status though as it depends on all sorts of fluctuating figures.

I know some of you think we're nuts doing this now, but I can't think of anything worse than trying to make sense of all the numbers when I am, as hub2dee so nicely put it, 'a sleep-deprived milk factory'.
We do both really want to start a family, and just want to gather all the information we can lay our hands on in the hope of making better informed decisions - we do this for smaller things eg going on holiday, changing jobs, buying a house, so wouldn't make this step without it!

(foxinsocks I think your money plan sounds the most fun - let DH calculate while I get on with the fun stuff!)

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justamum · 31/07/2006 15:27

smokeme, i got pregnant with ds totally by accident, we couldn't afford it, fullstop. but i knew i couldn't do anything but have him. Somehow we managed! at the start we had about £150 disposable income at end of month between us which was nothing compared to what we had been used to but we got through it with a bit of costcutting and our kind parents chucking the odd tenner and packet of biscuits our way. I had to work fulltime initially which I hated but found a fab childminder, he loved it with her which put my mind at rest. Somehow you find you can do without all those previous essentials when your gorgeous baby is waiting for you at the end of the day. i guess what i am trying to say is that you find a way to manage and its all worth it, afterall how many of us can say that we ever really have £4-500 left at the end of the month-we all live up to our means don't we. Its not worth putting it off until your finances can accomodate it in your existing lifestyle, except for the very rich that just won't happen and your existing lifestyle will be a distant memory once you have a baby, go for it and good luck!

VoluptuaGoodshag · 31/07/2006 16:01

I've not read all the other threads but please ignore such reports, they are utter bollocks! I did keep a tally on what our first was costing us and do you know what - we didnt' notice the difference and I had given up my job. We were given loads of clothes/cot/pram etc else we bought what we needed on Ebay. You get loads of pressies anyway and if you breastfeed then food is free for the first wee while. We used disposables and I've found Lidl to be the cheapest and the best.

What I found was that because our lifestyle had changed, we made savings which evened out the expenditure, e.g.no travel expenses, no expensive socialising, no silly lunches from Boots at £3 a time and family benefit and tax credits also helped. It's how you cut your cloth so just go for it!

riab · 31/07/2006 16:19

It all depends on the choices you make and the curve balls that get thrown to you.
For example;
Despite my GP dire predictions I got pregnant really easily meaning I was 6 months early in our finances and had a uni degree to finish, this nesecitated a p/t nursery place while he was 3-7 months
I would have liked to use a childminder once i went back to work but I couldn't find a CM with space for an under 1yr old that I was happy with so we ended up with a nanny.
I went back to work at 7 months so had a month unpaid leave as he was ill at 5 1/2 months.
I wanted to give him the best possible solid food so he ate expensive organic food for 4 months! Now he eats more (slightly more anyway) he does cost extra in terms of food.
I'm a concerned mother when it comes to development so i DO buy him toys - and have found it difficult to resist anything educational!
Poeple gave us loads of stuff at first and I still buy alot from ebay/tesco/charity shops but clothing still adds up especially when they grow so fast!

It is expensive, basiclaly you have a third person in the house. So if you think that the basic income support is £45-55 a week you're about right on how much that third perosn will cost you. (yes i know income support covers bills as well but its amazing how much your heat and light goes up when baby has to be kept warm and the washing mahcine is on permanant spin cycle!)

For childcare I'd suggest budgeting the equivilant wage pro rata. So if you need f/t childcare you decide do you want someone worth £10k or someone with the training etc worth £20k? (there are some half decent schemes out there now for nursery places but always budget based on having to pay the full wack!)

remember that to cover your work you need to add on the travel time, so if you work an 8 hr day you may need 9-10 hrs of childcare.

sorry if this sounds scary - tbh we've just decided that we're actually better off if I DON'T work!
we also worked out we could have bought a car instead of having a baby!

woodheys · 31/07/2006 16:54

We were always astounded at the cost of a having a child, according to the press. We bought pram, car-seat, cot and thought that was it. Clothes, nappies, etc just got absorbed into the weekly budget as would our own food, drink, toiletries needs.

THEN!! We realised what they meant. Full time nursery worked out at about £7000 p.a. (although we saved by paying weekly rate rather than daily rate, and many nurseries have discounts for paying in advance or for 2nd child etc).

So - forget anything else - nursery fees are the biggie, everything else pales into insignificance!!

woodheys · 31/07/2006 16:58

PS - However, this is offset by seriously reduced social life compared to before. No expensive meals out, no rounds of drinks at the pub, membership of places you used to belong to will expire unused, no point buying nice clothes to go out in as you won't be going out - or going to work while on maternity leave, and you won't have time to shop anyway unless you're very hardy - manouevring prams into shops is just a pain, then if you're allowed any peace and make it to the changing room they'll do a poo or be sick or scream for milk or something.
It only gets slightly better as they get older. by then, you're too knackered and out of the habit of going out/buying things for yourself etc. And exotic holidays get replaced by a week in Wales or maybe Majorca if you're lucky.

WriggleJiggle · 31/07/2006 18:25

We haven't spent anything on baby eqipment or clothing. Fortunately we have been given / borrowed far more than wriggler could possibly use. In fact we have had to double up or even triple up on some items in order not to upset friends who wanted to give us things! With regards to childminding costs, DH fell out with the management and got a pay off deal enabling me to go back to work, so, so far childcare hasn't cost us anything.
Not a reccommended route to take though .
Seriously though, if you thought about the cost you'd never do it.

Elf1981 · 31/07/2006 20:00

Okay, heres how it works in my house (and how the money has always worked).

DH & I are paid monthly into our own bank account. Money is taken automatically to our joint account which covers all bills, and now includes our Childminder fees of £90 per week. The money left in our own accounts is our own money.

We currently get £19 p/week which we put into a bank account for our DD. We're still having our child tax and working tax credits processed, which will also go into DD's account. When we need to buy large things, it comes out this money, though DD is nearly 10 months old and we have only had to buy a new car seat at £90 so still a fair amount in there.

I took six months off work. I went back to work as would not have been awarded enough to cover the bills from the government.

For our DD we were brought nearly all the nursery furniutre, a tonne of clothes, pram & first car seat etc. We have had a lot of clothes through Ebay, toys from the car boot (they grow out of them so quickly, and they can be hit and miss, would rather spend 50p on a toy that she wont be interested in than £20).

Foodwise, I breastfed so the only expense I had was an expresser and a few bottles when I went back to work. Hardly notice the cost of nappies either. Food wise, once weaned, she eats almost the same as us so I just blitz up what we're having, bar two days - stir fry night and chip shop night, in which case I make her some pasta with meat and veggies. Cheap as chips really!

As said before - the cost pales into insignificiance. Yes, if you insist on Bugaboo prams and silver booties, babies will be expensive, but I can honestly say that she's worth every penny. And as for a reduced social life, I'd much rather be sat on my bed with DH while DD is asleep between us, marvelling over how perfect she is than living it up in a pub.

riab · 31/07/2006 20:37

Thats what I meant about choices, we didn't go out alot anyway but neither of us is happy to completly put treats and hobbies for ourselves on hold.
We still buy books and magazines, nice food and surfing gear. Thats why we made a decision to wait until we were in a financial position to enable us to have a child but still maintain a level of income/ spending on 'us'.

Actually to be fair the house we are renovating costs more than the kid does!

As other people have said the big cost is childcare. I also think you have to plan ahead, people do give you lots of stuff but generally only when your LO is LITTLE! Thats why i bdugeted for a thrid person - he doesn't eat as much as me now but he will once he is 7 and once he's 15 he'll eat us out of house and home!

Not everyone plans like this - but its the way I have to do things, I'm the kind of perosn who will spend 6 hrs searching for the chepaest deal on any purchase.

For a basic calculation, I read somewhere that a child costs you 1/4 of your household income at the time before you got pregnant.

cjmumto2 · 02/08/2006 13:40

Babies do grow up though and once they are out of the cot they will need a bed and new bedding. And a buggy board to go on the pushchair when number 2 is born. You also cant resist buying them things. Even though I buy second hand I still spend a fortune.

Then there are the music classes and gyms etc which cost me and extra £15 per week. Also going out to do things like soft play just to get out of the house so add another £5 every time you go. Then once they have moved from the baby car seat to the next stage it means a new car seat and then when they get to 4 yrs they need a booster seat. He starts school 2 mornings a week in Jan at the whopping cost of £380 a term.

But as mentioned you just cannot think about it and I wouldnt change anything. My child is worth far more to me than I could ever spend on him.

riab · 02/08/2006 13:49

Good points CJmum

DS hardly cost anything in the firts year, its now he has outgrown the things we were given and moving onto the next lot of stuff!

Carseats, amd the like are 'must have' and then we bought a travel cot for him at his grandma's. The baby proofing things, new shoes now he is wlaking, and alhtough I'm not a big one for expensive classes I have a VERY active little boy so activities have to happen or he doens't sleep!
swimming 2x week =£5, playgroup £1, tumbletime at the local sports centre £3
I reckon its a minimum of a tenner and thats without buying him 'extra's!

However Its alot more fun now than it was when he was a baby!

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