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Next doors pigeons - wnere do I stand?

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 20:22

Next door keeps racing pigeons and keeps them in a huge, very expensive looking wooden outhouse.

I've never really been that bothered with them before but recently the bird poo seems to be increasing.

He lets them out everyday and they spends hours just flying in circles around our the gardens in the neighbourhood, swooping over our garden the most to land on top of their enclosure.

The poo's all over our fence, the grass, trees, patio, conservatory windows, garden table and chairs. There's no way I'll be able to let ds play outside this summer.

So my questions are:

What legal rights have I (if any) to ask next door to keep the pigeons inside?

How can I ask him without getting his back up (we don't really talk to each other, it's just a hello if we both happen to meet outside.)

Does bird flu affect pigeons?

How long does the bird flu virus stay alive in bird droppings? i.e., does dried poo pose the same risk as fresh poo?

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 20:43

Anyone?

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zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 20:45

No idea was he there with the pigeons before you moved in?

And pigeons can spread disease so speak to your environmental health to see if they can help

Whizzz · 29/04/2006 20:46

Would probably try ringing your local council for advice. Might hold more sway if other neighbours also registered them as a nuisance??

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 20:49

z - yes he was there before we moved in, but tbh I didn't think he had pigeons because their enclose looks like a summerhouse.

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zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 20:51

you are entitled to quiet enjoyment of your property, the local environmental health will advise you..if it is a new pigeon house i would also check that it has planning permission..how near is it to the bounbdary and how high/permanent is it

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 20:53

It's quite high, higher than a shed but not two story, very permanent and looks very very solid. It's a foot away from the boundry, it's got to be at least 10meters long at a guess if not more.

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zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 20:55

I would check with the planning and environmental health to see if ti is legitimate..both on your local council website or ring ....district council to be put through

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 20:56

Thankyou z, you've given me a place to start x

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zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 21:03

now you proibably have to wait until the council offices open in the middle of the week...my advice is be assertive and persistent but not belligerent

mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 21:04

I think that dried pigeon poo is worse as when it is brushed/cleaned it releases toxins in the air. (it also rots and destroys buildings, which is why netting is used in city centres etc)
I used to live in a block of council flats and the council would come out and clean up the mess every so often.
Chat to your local Environmental health dept for advice.

SoupDragon · 29/04/2006 21:05

"Next doors pigeons - wnere do I stand?"

Not under where they're roosting :o

Sorry...

zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 21:07

there may also be different rules if you or your neighbours are tenants rather than owner occupiers..i assumed that both were freeholders

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 21:08

lol soupy!

Shock at dried poo being worse, was hoping it would be better.

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 21:10

Yes we both own our houses. Does that make any difference?

Tbh if it wasn't for a)ds and b)bird flu, I probably wouldn't be making a fuss.

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mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 21:15

Panicpants, as these are 'kept' birds and not ferel, they shouldnt carry common diseases that pigeons get. Not sure on the bird flu front.

Have been looking on the net for you for links, but cant see any useful info. lol at myself for googling 'pigeon poo'! Wink

Wallace · 29/04/2006 21:17

Soupdragon that was my line Grin

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PanicPants · 29/04/2006 21:17

Thanks for trying mf1stft - lol at you googling pigeon poo :o

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mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 21:17

Owning and renting - makes no difference!
If the person/pets/whatever next door are a nuisance or not following the law, they are a nuisance whether you rent or buy!

mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 21:19

No probs panicpants! Goodluck in your pigeon poo quest!

zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 21:22

doesn't make any difference to contacting environmental health and planning..just might have been some more rules if tenants

mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 21:30

Sorry, dont agree zippitripp!

SoupDragon · 29/04/2006 21:31

I assumed ZTT meant they might be violating their tenancy aggreement if renting.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 21:34

OOps, sorry zippitripp, read it wrong, Blush. Yes renter could be violating tenancy rules.
Thanks soupy.

zippitrippitoes · 29/04/2006 21:36

yes that is what I did mean a tenenacy might have some prohibitions and also tbh because i won my house i tend to assume that someone else does, have you moved recently?

Greensleeves · 29/04/2006 21:37

Apparently the thing to do is to plant a tree/row of trees, fast-growing trees with big foliage, at the bottom of your garden. He will have to train his pigeons to reroute themselves around your garden because they won't be able to see their enclosure from the same angle.