Medically induced miscarriage..............HELP !!!!

[oinker]

What a total F**K Up !!!!!

I went to hospital today for pre op. Op ERPC was booked for tomorrow. I saw the doc who was going to perform the op. He offered me the medically induced one. I have never been offered this so jumped at the chance as this is my 7th m/c and I have already had 3 ERPC's under anesthetic the last one in september 2007. I started this m/c about 5 weeks ago and the scans show 18mm of product left inside.
I had a hell of a time today at the hospital and went totally bozzo at this doctor. He showed no damn compassion at all.
It's a long story.......... Won't get into just yet....

Can someone out there please expalin what I should realistically expect.... I have already taken the 1st tablet and am due to take the others at 0600 on friday....
Starting to get scared and nervous....

HELP!!!!!

Poor you. I don;t know the first thing about this, but just wanted to say I am thinking of you after reading your thread. Hope someone useful comes along soon. And good luck with everything.

Friend took this at 9 weeks, she had heavy period style cramps, heavy bleeding for a day, took nurofen which was enough, and next day it had settled down to normal period style.

Sorry xxx

I am soooooooooo confused.

This doc prescribed me the medication and watched me take the first tablet after having been told by my prof that he was against this treatment for me as I have been bleeding on and off for over 5 weeks.

My prof called me at home and told me.
He called as the other doc had told him i was angry with him and had a rant for over 45 minutes..........

The doc who gave me the tablet asked me what my future plans were. He mentioned the word BMI and I lost it. For over a year I have heard nothing other than my weight was an issue. I lost 5 stone and had a normal BMI yet i still m/c'd. (TWICE)
I have done my research and weight is only issue if you can't get pregnant. And I obviousely can...........
My prof even said it was not an issue other than the oious benefits once you are pregnant.

Needless to say my prof is having words with this doctors as he said he should not have been discussing any future plans with me especially at this stage..........

I had this at 8 weeks.
Like Kat said, I had very heavy bleeding for a couple of days, then went to heavy period for about a week.

Also had remnants of placenta come out a few days after too, sorry if too much info.

So sorry Oinker xx.

oh ((((((((((oinker)))))))))))))

I just popped on to check how your surgery went. I am so sorry you are going through this.

at your doctors, why cant they agree grrr!!

(excuse typing had some wine!)

I cant really give you advice ont he medical management apart from i know it takes a few days and you keep going back for pessaries and tablets till its all gone I took the ERPC option to have it done with (but fat lot of good that did me!)

My bleeding is minmal now, when I wipe only. My house is spotless and we have friends over tonight Already planning nights out with my girlies and I cant wait.

Anyway Im off to bed, if you want hun email me

[email protected] i check it everyday Just so you have someone to rant at whos been there iykwm? your more than welcome

Thinking of you xxxx

(really sorry for typing!)

Oinker i am so sorry you are going through this. have to say the doctor that you saw today souns like a total F*wit!
Excuse my language but what an insenstive prick!

I have had 4 miscarriages now. With the first 2 I let the miscarriages naturally took their course. With the 3rd I had this treatment but it didn't work and I went on to bleed for several more weeks before they rescanned me, still had products left so I had the ERPC but with the 4th I had this treatment successfully.

I am really surprised that this was offered to you when this miscarriage has already been such a long and drawn out and difficult time for you already. I would have thought that they would have been making every effort to make this as straightforward as possible for you given the circumstances. You will have obviously taken the medication that cuts off the hormone supply to your uterus. Then on friday (it has to be 48 hours later] they will give you pessaries so that you sart contracting. If after several hours you have not passed the product they will probably give you more tablets orally. They should have warned you also that if you do not pass the product then they will probably need to carry out a ERPC. On the other hand it may be possible that you experience heavy bleeding and cramping and pass the product before Friday. If you suspect that this has happened before Friday tell them and they should rescan you before they go ahead with the second part of the medical management as it may not be necessary.

I hope this helps but in the meantime if you want to have a rant............

I hope all goes well on Friday! make sure you take some books/mags/drinks etc to the hospital with you. They should allocate a special side treatment room for you so that you have plenty of privacy.

i don't know what else to say but sorry you are going through all of this

(((((hugs)))))

oh oinker I'm sorry, how dreadfully grim.

I've had one complete and 2 ERPCs, so no experience, but just wanted to send thoughts. Can't imagine how awful this is for you.

Ladies thank you........................

This is really doing my head in.

WORRYBUM.........What hospital? What side room? I am going to be at home... They did not even mention going to hospital. I am dreading this. If that twat had not said anything it would have all been over and done with by now
DH has taken tomorrow of work as the papaerwork says that someone must be with you. I have the SKIDS arriving tomorrow at 3ish......... SHIT........How am I going to cope?

I feel sick at the thought of it!!!!!

God, what awful treatment you are having. I thought that you always had to do the pessary part in hospital due to the risk of bleeding ?
I had ERPC, natural, ERPC as I just wanted to get it over and done with, as well as get a chromosomal analysis done (which they cocked up unsuprisingly).

So what did your Prof say the plan was ? I was told that if your mc has failed to complete in 2 weeks or so, your chance of completing it naturally or medically was really low.

Big hugs, and thinking of you

Hi Oinker
I have had the medically induced miscarriage after having a missed miscarriage. I took the pills and they started the bleeding so that by the time I went into hospital 2 days later I was bleeding heavily. I still got given the next dose (cant remember but must have beeen pessaries) and then got them at 4 hourly intervals because no product had been passed. In the end I went home about 8pm although the information before going said if it hadnt passed you would be admitted and given ERPC. In the end I passed it 4 days later and had to be rescanned to see everything was gone and they monitored blood levels to see reducing.

I'm not sure what kind of ward I was on (it was a different hospital to my usual one) but I had a room of my own with en suite as you had to use a cardboard thing to catch anything in. It had a TV etc but I was largely left to myself unless I thought anything had come out. Oh, I've just seen you are going to be at home - I would have preferred that as nothing much happened except being given more medication to try and expel it. I was told reason have to be in hospital is cos medicine not licensed for this use so it is so that they can oversee it. This was August so may have changed since then and I am in Scotland so may be different. I also had no pain at all by the way and it was all fine except for the waiting for something to happen. HOpe I've not gone on to much.

Oinker please ring the hospital and get them to explain their procedure so that you have some reassurances. In my experience if you have the miscarriage medically induced you are supposed to go back to the hospital 48 hours later for the follow up medical treatment and so that they can carefully monitor your loss!?!?!?!?!? I do not understand why your hospital would have a different produre to mine. I was given lots of information sheets to take away with me which explained the procedure. I am going to look on the hospitals website now to see if I can get a link for you.

BTW my prodeure was exactly as Springflower describes.

www.addenbrookes.org.uk/serv/wards/daphneward1.html

Oinker here is a link from the cambridge university hospitals Website which explains the procedure. i couldn't find it on my own hospitals website which is Leicester General. It may very well be that your hospital has a different procedure but please check with them that you have been given the correct information. I feel personally that they have left you very upset and confused and you shouldn't be having to deal with this in addition to everything else
(((((((hugs)))))))

Sorry forgot to say, it's under the heading 'Support in the Early Preganncy unit'

oinker are you there? have been lurking since i posted and just wanted to know if you are okay and getting to the bottom of things. i have to nip out foe a few hours but will then come back to check you are alright.

Afternoon..........

I have been trying to chill out and focus on setting up my bedroom. I have dusted and moped the floor. Bedding has been changed and is nice and fresh. I have fresh flowers around the bedroom and aromatherapy candles everywhere. My freind suggested getting the room rady and calm. It looks lovely just like a plush hotel room. Not sure it's going to work. It's times like this that I wish I had an en suite.

I have leaflets from the hospitl explaining whats what. It explains everything. It tells me what to expect etc........
What has really annoyed me is that the doctor never once told me that it was unlikely that this was going to work. He never told me that my prof was against me doing this. He should have told me. Had I known I would have been guided by my prof and had the ERPC regardless of the shit he was going on about. He really did put the fear of God into me. I will be distraught if this does not work. I can't imagine what I will be like if I now have to go under anesthetic. I could kick his flamin' head in. TOSSER........(sorry for foul language am soooooooooooooo ANGRY!!!!)
I keep thinking I am going to die whilst under......

Oh oinker ((((hugs)))))

I had the same fear with my first ERPC. When I had my first DS I had him by section under GA, I didnt wake up I was in a coma for days afterwards. I had a stroke and my family was all sent for to say their goodbyes. The doctors said if I woke up I would never walk again...Sooo next time it came to having a GA, I cried all day, wrote my DP, DS and family letters I was a mess

But, I wont patronise you by saying it was easy blah blah cos I know you have had one before. It litrally is only for a few mins.

Can you not ring and tell them you want the ERPC?

TBH I couldnt ever go through the MM way of mc'ing I wouldnt cope...
There was a lady in a side room near me in teh hospital, she was having medical manageme t and had to collect what she lost in bed pans I felt soo bad for her. But kept trying to tell myself she chose to do it that way its so sad anyone has to go through mc let alone the incompent doctors that go with it

Julez...........

F**K !!!!
What a nightmare for you. I would be a total mess too.

I have had anaesthetic 4 times. I have never had any problems but this doctor just made me feel soooooooooo scared. He instilled me with no confidence at all... It was really worrying...

My father in law die 6 months ago after going in for a knee op. They put him under and he never regained consciousness. He died. I was pregnantat the time and had to go for my ERPC two days before he died I was scared then but pretended to be strong and brave for my husbands sake. It got me through but I am really paying for it now. 3 weeks later I watched my best friend die. She had cancer. There is just too much death and it does frighten me.

I think I may need counselling.
Sorry I am just ranting on now.....

Have you contacted the Mc assosiation...

Probably have already, face to face counsilling isnt really my thing tbh, tried it and found it really hard to do. I am a member of a miscarraige forum which helps me alot (sorry mn!)

It must be scary for you faced with so much death already... A nice way to look at it though is, your friend and FIl are up there with your babies I know it sounds like a chliche but it brings me comfort. My nan is probably cursing me for sending her so many mosnters

Julez.........

That's exactly what a freind of mine said..
My friend that died is probably doing exactly the same. She has my seven angels to look after. The will all be air heads if her influence gets thru..
She was a very intelliget person but soooooooooo dizzy and not blonde.

I miss her....

My nan missed seeing my DS by 3 weeks...My nan is the kinda woman that wont take no crap though so she'll have my 7 in line and well diciplined

DS2 is keeping me on my toes now though, smashed his face up the other day lip and nose and his gums was pretty scary, blood everywhere!

So if my 7 are anything like him, god help her LOL!!!

Im off to bed, MIL wants me to grace her with my presence tomorrow for lunch (oh fun!)

in pain

how many 500mg tabs co codramol do i take and how often

I'm sorry you're having to go through this oinker. Hope you are not in too much pain.

It depends on the strength of the tablets. It's usually 2 tablets every 4 hours but sometimes 6 hours if strong.

Take it easy. Is someone with you?

no more than 8 in 24 hours oinker Do you have a hot water bottle?

Been checking in waiting for your post. Did they not keep you?

Taking 2... Took last ones at 1030....

Going to take another two soon.

I never went to hospital. DH was at home with me. He has gone to collect the SKIDS. They will be here at 330ish... Not looking forward to it

I don't think this method is working. Have been cramping badly and have passed nothing. No blood, no clots only pee. Been cramping since 0630. I took tabs at 0600. Is this right....Should I be bleeding?