2 early miscarriages, no successful pregnancies yet.

[Helensss]

Hello all, I have just gone through a 2nd early miscarriage, took my body 2 years to settle after the pill, we then conceived quite quickly and subsequently miscarried both at 5 weeks. Now I’m so scared to get pregnant again, any success stories or advice is really welcomed!! Xx

It sounds awful to say, but if you did have another at least you would get tests to see if there's anything that can be done. If you read on here you will see that loads of women who have more than one mc do go on to have a baby (I've had four mcs, but also managed to have 2 dc). So please don't give up hope. I took loads of vitamins - vitamin D3 is good, maybe just a placebo though! And I know some people take baby aspirin. Have you had thyroid levels checked ever?

I had two followed by a successful pregnancy, I've had more miscarriages since that pregnancy though so still don't know if it's very bad luck or just good luck that I had my lo. It's a horrible thing mc, especially if you have more than one. Oddly when I got pregnant with lo we were meant to be in a break from trying because like you, I felt scared to try but somehow lo slipped through the net as it were. It was better that way really because I didn't have to work myself up to trying again, it just happened. I was told by multiple doctors though that two miscarriages is usually just bad luck rather than something wrong so hopefully that's the case for you. I would say though to give yourself time, I didn't have enough time between miscarriages and I think it's really affected my mental health.

I had 4mc all very early. I then had progesterone which did the trick , although studies are inconclusive on it I think but it was a pretty big coincidence seeing as that pregnancy started off the same as the others - no symptoms whatsoever. Good luck I'm sure you will get there in the end x

@lggi999 thanks for replying! I actually told a little white lie and told them this was my 3rd so I have an appointment in September, even to just find out if there is nothing wrong and just bad luck would be nice! I’ve just started pregnacare whether it’ll help or not who knows. I did have my thyroid checked because my cycle was so crazy after coming off the pill and that was fine so that’s good to know, did you have yours before your 2 pregnancy’s?

Aria2015 yeah we aren’t ‘trying’ this month but going to see what happens, I don’t know where my cycle is as it took a while to get back to normal after last so will see. Yes I’ve been told that about 2 mc as well so I’ve got my fingers crossed xx

@pumpkinpie01 oh really we’re they all like 5/6 weeks? Really does help to hear some success thanks everyone for replying means a lot! Also I’ve heard a lot about progesterone, I’m going to ask at my appointment, did you have to get prescribed it or did you get it yourself?

Also sorry everyone for your losses. Xxx

Wow, I am pretty shocked you call this "a little white lie", OP. I'm sorry for your losses, and I really do understand how it feels, as I've also been through MMC, but I'd never lie about this to get an appointment sooner than the ladies who have suffered even more than me. I'm sorry, but that's not something I'd ever support. What if all of us on here did the same? Not cool as far as I'm concerned. Wishing you luck in your future pregnancies.

OP I'm sorry for your loss. It is
hard seeing a BFP on a test and then the pregnancy not establishing.

However, two very early losses and you're happy to tell a lie to the NHS so that you join a waiting list where other women have had to go through three miscarriages before being added to the list? I'd lost one at 5 weeks, one at 8 weeks and one at 12 weeks before being referred and I'm afraid I take a dim view of you manipulating the system.

There are good reasons for the threshold being 3 losses (after two early MC you're more likely to have a successful pregnancy next time than another MC, whereas after 3 the stats suggest that intervention is likely to be required).

I haven’t lied to the nhs I’m going private.

You wouldn't need to lie if you went private though? They can run the tests after less than three consecutive miscarriages if you pay for them privately?

I know loads of people, including me, who had 2-3 miscarriages between/before pregnancy.

I reckon this is fairly normal but in the past nobody knew due to lack of early pregnancy tests.

When I was young I was told that sometimes your period comes a bit late and then it is heavier than usual. I reckon the old dears back then were actually having v early miscarriages.

Lying to the clinicians you are asking to diagnose you is dumb. At what point will you tell them you made an, ahem, mistake in your history?

@MrsMGE I have a private dr and he advised waiting for a 3rd and do it through the nhs. They wouldn’t do it as had only had 2, although where I live the waiting list is only 2 weeks apparently. I had a chemical in January which I do class as an early mc anyway so I told my dr that. I came on here for support not this... I’m sorry for all your losses I really am.
I’m just doing what’s right for me

Mmc, stillbirth, mmc, beautiful baby girl. Stillborn and second mmc both had something wrong with them.

I took baby aspirin, progesterone and lots of vitamins in 3rd and 4th pregnancy. Hard to say whether they helped or not as 3rd pregnancy was mmc with triploidy.

My body seemed to do pregnancy well just not the making the baby bit.

In my only successful pregnancy I had stopped drinking pretty much before and started weight watchers. I often wonder if those things helped.

Took a cocktail of vitamins too pre conception and all through pregnancy.

Tbh i think you're sensible, what if MC no3 causes asherman's or something? Fwiw as a mutiple MC sufferer i "knew" i had a probelm almost straight away, turns out i have factor V (now expertly managed, 1 child and 1 due soon)

Helensss a CP definitely counts as a MC for referral purposes so you were right to flag that.

Rarfy

Well then tell the truth, OP. If you indeed had another pregnancy then you had 3, not 2, and it wasn't a "little white lie". Loss of a chemical pregnancy is, medically, a very early miscarriage.

Support is always provided if you're honest.

Think for a moment how it reads for someone who lost three babies that you refer to a third loss as a "little white lie".

Again, wishing you best of luck.

I didn’t think I was being dishonest, I’m sorry if it came across that way to you. I am also hurting because of my losses so I wouldn’t want to be inconsiderate to anyone at all!

@JanewaysBun thank you I thought I was being sensible too. I didn’t know they counted chemical as a mc my dr said they wouldn’t count it, I’ll enquire xx

I had 2 MC then with my 3rd BFP I took progesterone pessaries as soon as I found out I was pregnant.

I now have a beautiful 9 month old

Oh thank you that’s good to know, I’ll ask about them x

From what I remember of progesterone there is actually no evidence in the trials done on it that it helps so you might have some reluctance having it prescribed.

They may be able to test to see if you are low in it. From all the research I did I felt that baby aspirin was the one that was likely to make the difference and I seem to remember that being the case particularly if you have early losses at a similar time. Something to do with blood clotting and placenta not being able to attach. Either way baby aspirin does no harm so is worth a go and you can buy it in the shops.

I found the seven seas conception vitamins great and there is some theories floating about they help.

I also took coq10 prior to pregnancy, evening primrose oil, extra vitamin d and some b vitamins and maybe magnesium. Researched thoroughly and they all help in some way although I can't remember how now. Maybe egg quality.

PP, sorry to chip in re Seven Seas, but I took them and if a pregnant woman requires Aspirin for the APS syndrome that you're referring to (and/or blood thinners potentially too) then Seven Seas are definitely not good because they contain Vit K which thickens blood. You have to be very careful with what you take when you're on Aspirin/Aspirin & blood thinners combo. Also, there are circumstances in which Aspirin cannot be taken, I'm not sure what exactly, but there is some more information about this on the NHS website. I remember reading about this for myself and it did say there were some preexisting conditions when it is not recommended by NICE.

I had 2 Mc then a successful pregnancy. I did have pre-eclampsia which the consultant thought may all be related. I went on to have several some more mcs and 2 more babies, I was very lucky I think compared to what some people go through. I did have further problems in the second pregnancy and post party’s hypertension with my third. I had numerous tests after the second pregnancy privately but there was never any definitive cause identified. Possibly an implantation problem, possibly mild PCOS. I do understand the emotional pain that would drive you to seek these tests earlier. The cause may not be clear, but it might be something that can be identified and treated too. I took a lot of medications in my first trimesters particularly to help things along. I am glad that chapter is closed now as it was incredibly difficult to go through at the time. My story had a positive ending, good luck OP.

Hi, that may be right but the seven seas is a pre conception vitamin so once you get a positive you would stop taking them then take the baby aspirin. The clotting issue seems to be when the baby beds into the womb which isn't until a little further into the pregnancy.

As I say, something to look into. I never knew if I had it but the miscarriages and stillbirth were what made my consultant advise it, I never actually underwent any tests.

Sorry for your losses, Ralfi.

I've also suspected I might have it, but haven't been tested yet, I'm waiting either for a successful outcome, or for 3 consecutive losses that will confirm it's likely there is an underlying issue.

Re Seven Seas, I can't remember if Vit K is in them and yes, you're totally right - you'd stop taking them, but this would be in early pregnancy. The issue is with the Pregnancy Seven Seas ones which are now available, they definitely have Vit K in them.

Hope you're keeping well after all this heartache

*Rarfy, my apologies, silly phone!

I had two early miscarriages- and my mum and sister had the same. I had tests but nothing came up as wrong so the specialist said they thought that I probably had an overly welcoming womb that was accepting below par eggs (the theory is that 50-75% of fertilised eggs don't implant. But all of mine were).

Anyway, long story short - I have a 20month old and am 5weeks pregnant now.

I have no idea if this helped but I started taking a good conception vitamin, extra folic acid, coenzyme q10 and fish oil, to try and improve my eggs. I then took low dose aspirin throughout my pregnancy and gave up caffeine.

Even if that didn't do anything it made me feel better. Paul McKenna hypnosis tapes on YouTube really helped me with relaxation techniques.

Btw your doctor might not send you for tests after 2 mc as it's considered very normal and not an issue. I only got tests because my doctor did something wrong and I was offered this as way of making me shut up and go away

I pretty much did the same as @Sizeofalentil.

My dd is 7 months now and I am the happiest I've ever been. The heartache was totally worth it but obviously at the time you don't feel like that. It helped that I knew for two of the pregnancies there was something wrong.