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Recurrent MC--Testing and beyond--Part 5 continues here

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LAF77 · 02/05/2011 09:23

Here is the list of us on the thread and where we are in our journey through RMC. Nearly 4,000 posts in a year, so mark your place for the next thread.

Part one Part one

Part two Part two

Part three Part three

Part four Part four

STARTING TESTING
LOLA78: mc1 Dec 07 (6wks), DD Oct 08 (problem free pregnancy and natural birth), mmc2 Nov 10 6wks ERPC at 10wks, mc3 Feb 11 at 7wks - suspected ectopic but mc naturally, mc4 mar 11 at 5wks (started 75mg aspirin from a week before bfp) - hospitalised for excessive bleeding and clots. Now referred for testing at local fertility clinic, we have started having blood tests and am on 5mg folic acid.
SCOOTERCHASTER: DS Oct 08 (managed for SVT heart from 35wks), mc1 Sept 10 (7wks), mc2 Dec 10 (9 wks - hb @ 8wks), mc3 April 11 (7.5 wks, hb day b4 mc).
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Mr S on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), NK Cells levels almost double what they should be. 25mg Prednisone from ovulation - CD1 or if BFP then 'til 12 wks and then weaned off 'til 14wks plus Progesterone pessaries from BFP - 16wks, Folic Acid, Omega3, Vit D - 12wks, Asprin - 20wks.
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.8 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 Nov2009 @5wks. MC2 Apr2010 @6-7wks. MC3 Oct2010 @7-8wks. MC4 Mar2011 @8wks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping. Clotting tests normal. DH & I genetically normal. On Metformin for mild PCOS, plus 75mg aspirin, Pregnacare Plus & 25mcg VitD3. Diagnosed with high NK Cells (1.25) after MC4. Starting TTC in May with prednisolone from ovulation and will add cyclogest once pg. Under care of Mr S.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April, second round of bloods in May, with results in June.

PREGNANT
MATTSMAMA Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11. Heartbeat seen at 10 weeks.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 03/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5). Seen at St Mary's. clotting problem, pg #5 aspirin 150g daily. Ds1 born 9/2/11 c/s @ 35 wks
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

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pebspop · 08/06/2012 00:18

I find it strange there's no follow up after erpc but I think that's just the way it is.

I had loads of tests for blood clotting disorders, chromosome testing for me and dh to see if we are passing something on the babies were also tested for chromosome problems as well.

On my second mc I had a post mortem as I was 20 weeks and that came back showing blood clots in the placenta. All tests so far have come back negative.

Try reading a book called miscarriage: what every woman needs to know by Lesley regan. It tells you everything about testing and is very good.

I just need to find out if there is anything wrong with my uterus now before I try again

Contests on the wedding!

aMuminwaiting · 10/06/2012 17:17

Can I join please? I'm on pregnancy number 6 and really scared. I'm almost 6 weeks and have been taking clexane and aspirin since 10dpo. I've not tested positive for anything but the consultant told me to "give it a go because you've got nothing to lose". An odd thing to say to someone who's already lost 5 babies! My first mc was almost 22 weeks and the placenta was tested and was fine. The baby was not tested and the hospitals have failed to do that with all of the others too. My husband and I had chromosome testing and that was normal.
Nausea has started kicking in in the last two days which is promising. Every trip to the loo (all one hundred a day) are made with trepidation. I'm black and blue from the needles but if it works it will all be completely worth it. I was told I'd have an early scan as I had a mmc in pregnancy 4 and as my body still thought I was pregnant I didn't realise the baby was dead for four weeks. It was a real shock when we went for the 12 week scan. I've paid to have private scans to makes sure there's no cysts, fibroids etc that could be blocking the way. Everything was fine. I think it's a case of my body having an overactive immune system but I haven't had the tests for that and it's not a route the hospital are willing to take. I was told months ago I'd be referred to St Marys but the letter never came. I've said this time and time again but this really feels like the last chance.
Like many of you I've also tried medications in pregnancies that seem to be going well and then bam, it's all over. One minute I seem to be fine and the next I'm bleeding. I have nightmares about the miscarriages all the time. They've all been at different times and I've been sure every time that this is the one. I can't handle Facebook anymore. I counted only two friends who did not have babies. The status updates of another "little miracle" are enough to send me into a crying fit. I hate who I've become. I think why them? Why not me? Even though I am pregnant now I still hate walking past a heavily pregnant woman. I want to scream at them "you don't know how lucky you are". It's so judgemental, for all I know they've been through hell to get to where they are. If hope and determination were enough then we'd all be Mum's by now. I constantly hear "be positive" "it will happen this time" "you'll get you're baby" "did you see this article in a magazine". My MIL has been discussing my bruises with her midwife friend. Between them they've decided I'm doing it wrong. Everyone is an expert. I know I'm supposed to be all positive and most days I do feel it. Some times I think it could work this time, I've heard lots of clexane success stories and why shouldn't it work for me? It feels very lonely some days though doesn't it?

iloveblue · 13/06/2012 22:33

Hello

amuminwaiting I think I 'met' you on another thread - were we chatting about NK cells?
Congratulations on your pregnancy. It goes without saying that it is not going to be easy in any shape or form - but hopefully the Clexane and aspirin will work for you. Try and stay positive, I know its hard but you have to be hopeful. Will your local hospital give you an early scan?

pebs All the waiting must be frustrating. I didn't realise you'd had blood clots in the placenta for your late loss. Will you be on Heparin next time?

GuppieK · 15/06/2012 07:09

Hi all. Would love to join this thread. I've only had chance to read a few pages, but I started miscarrying in the early hours of this morning at 8 wks pregnant. Spent hours in early pregnancy unit yesterday after starting bleeding and scan showed irregular looking sac with a tiny speck - too small for the dates. This is my third miscarriage in 9 months. They've all been between 6-8 weeks. I'm starting to feel a dab hand at it. I feel fine emotionally at the moment as obviously I hadn't been getting my hopes up like I did the first time. That one was awful. I'm scared my hormone levels will go awol later though and turn me into a bit of a wreck.

The early pregnancy unit said they'll start tests if I did miscarry and that they have an expert at the hospital. So I guess I need to see my GP to get referred. I have an appointment booked this morning. It was one I made a week ago with the intention of letting my GP know I was pregnant, so trying to decide if I feel up to going there or whether to reschedule for next week. I'm 34 years old and wondering if my eggs are just past their prime now! Look forward to reading all your posts and hopefully learning more about the testing, although I know it will made me sad to hear about lots of other people going through this.

iloveblue · 15/06/2012 10:15

Hi guppie
So sorry to hear about what you're going through - it is horrible and unfair.

Whereabouts are you? I'm interested to hear who the expert at your hospital is.
Have you decided whether to go to your GP appointment?
The timing of your miscarriages sounds like it could be a NK cells issue. There is a book called 'Is you body baby friendly?' by Dr Alan Beer which is very informative.

GuppieK · 15/06/2012 11:24

Thanks for your reply Iloveblue. I just re-read your most recent posts and I'm sorry to hear about your losses too. The most recent one in particular must have been heartbreaking to have three healthy scans and then for something to go wrong. I'm thankful that my three have all been early and this most recent time I haven't got my hopes up at all. Like you, I'm also thankful that I seem to get pregnant quite quickly - it has taken me three cycles all three times.

I did go for my GP appointment this morning. I had hoped that he might refer me to the specialist at the hospital (I'm based in Bristol and the hospital is St Michael's but I don't know the name of the expert there, only that there is one according to the EPC) but he told me to make an appointment next week with him and that he'd take some blood for testing. I don't know what he'll be testing for - will ask next week. But he asked if I bleed a lot when I cut myself so maybe for clotting disorders? I'm quite new to all of the terminology, like the NK cells, although have been reading up. I've also ordered the book that you've suggested! I want to find out as much as I can about this so that I can make sure I'm doing everything I can to help and also to understand.

To be honest, my GP wasn't super helpful. He kept asking if it they were definitely miscarriages and had I definitely had positive pregnancy tests. Then he said every pregnancy has a 25% of miscarrying so it's a bit like tossing a coin and it coming up heads three times in a row. Obviously maths isn't his strongest subject ;-)

iloveblue · 15/06/2012 13:05

Hmmmm Hmm don't get me started about medical professions and their 'fobbing off' regarding miscarriage. We've also been told up till now that it is just 'bad luck' - but it is clearly not. There seems to be a real lack of research and knowledge regarding recurrent mc at the moment - we really do have to become our own experts. I'm glad you've ordered the Dr Beer book. Smile

pebspop · 15/06/2012 14:17

i was going to try the heparin last time but as i was spotting they wouldn't give it to me.

i will be trying it next time thought.

i went to see roy farquharson at liverpool this week. i am having blood tests and hysteroscopy over the next few weeks and should be ready to ttc again once the results are back in about six weeks.

MumTumWanted · 15/06/2012 15:34

Just checking in guppiek we could be twins I too am 34 think my eggs are past it and have had 3 mc between 6-8 weeks.
I've just been referred for testing following my erpc in may I'm just waiting now desperate to ttc again but know I can't be pg for the testing ...

Have my fx for us both .... The nk cell things I need to read up on I think ....

GuppieK · 15/06/2012 15:56

Hey mumtum. Good to hear from you. We do seem to have a bit in common! I'm finding it all quite surreal as (a bit arrogantly) I never thought I would have problems getting pregnant when I was ready to. I think mainly just because I've been lucky and not had many health problems, my mum got pregnant easily with us, my periods have always been like clockwork. How wrong I was!

Did your doctor do any blood tests on you before referring you to a specialist? I'm a bit worried mine is going to try to fob me off with the 'just unlucky' thing and not refer me, even though they said at the early pregnancy unit I should definitely get a referral is it's happened three times. They were really lovely at the unit.

I've also just got back from there as they told me if I could keep any of the miscarriage in a container, they could send it to the lab and get it tested for abnormalities and maybe find out what the problem was. And luckily the sac and contents came out perfectly onto a sanitary pad earlier (sorry for the info). Did they do that for you after your erpc or has anyone else had that done? I'm not sure what they can find out really that will be useful. I guess if certain chromosomes are missing it could indicate something wrong with me or my partner's genetics?

My doctor said we should hold off ttc now for a few months until tests have been done. So it's going to be weird to not be trying and I guess pretty horrible because at least before when it happened we could optimistically get on with trying again. Now there's not going to be anything to look forward to really. And it's hard to get it out of my head that I'm not getting any younger while all this is going on!

iloveblue · 15/06/2012 17:00

Hi mumtum
I'm 34 too Smile but I was 32 when I had my first mc so don't think it is an issue. Ladies with poor egg qualilty usually have a problem getting pregnant from what I understand.

pebs how did you find the Liverpool clinic? Glad you have a new plan of action.

Ostrich78 · 16/06/2012 08:06

Hi ladies,

Been really busy lately so have only just had a catch up. Hello AMum and Gup, sorry to see you here x

MT - how are you?
It is strange that you just get sent home after erpc, I've had 3 and it's always the same! We've also been naughty and not used protection - Id had a few glasses if rose and completely forgot! More worrying about being pregnant now, never seems to end! You've not long until your appointment, can you call your doctor for the results?
Gup - I don't think its arrogance that you assumed you'd get pregnant easily, we seem to spend our 20's being careful not getting pregnant so it's natural to think it'll be easy xx
AMum - congratulations! Ignore anyone/thing you want to, some people can be insensitive without realising it xxx
Pebs - 6 weeks will hopefully fly by x
Ilove - hope you're well x

Had some reflexology last night, woke myself up snoring quite a few times!! It was really lovely and relaxing.

Im 34 too!

LAF77 · 16/06/2012 09:59

guppie your situation sounds similar to mine. One thing I would suggest to you for your next attempt at TTC is use an OPK and only try when you get the green light from the OPK. There is a theory about super fertility and how some women get pregnant and go on to miscarry when other women wouldn't even get pregnant. I think it played a part in having a success the 4th time around. I did test positive for some clotting issues too, but I believe that having the implantation at the right time allowed the pregnancy to stick before they discovered the clotting issue.

There is so much more to learn about RMC and it dies feel like you have to take matters into your own hands to manage your treatment.

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GuppieK · 16/06/2012 10:17

Hi Ostrich. It is a shame we are all here but positive for us that we can speak together about this problem we're all sharing.

I have blood tests booked at my GP on the 27th, test results on the last embryo which they say could take 6wks and my book, Is Your Body Baby Friendly, has turned up this morning! Going to spend the day reading as other half has gone to a wedding that I just couldn't face. All those kids everywhere and having to be smiley with everyone = too much!

Did you get the hormone crash after Ostrich? With my first mc I was so depressed I pretty much stared at a wall for 2 days! This mc started night before last and I was surprisingly perky yesterday but woke up and had a little cry this morning. Who knows if it's hormones or the reality suddenly hitting me (or probably both). Hoping the book will keep my mind occupied today though. Hope you are all doing well today. x

GuppieK · 16/06/2012 10:25

Thanks Laf. That is really helpful. I will definitely try that alongside anything else the doctor/consultant suggests once we can start trying again. It seems to make some sense that if all of the embryos we created werent right, like this recent one, that it would be best to ttc at optimum point in health of egg. I've read a lot of the posts in this thread and really chuffed to hear you now have a baby. x

pebspop · 18/06/2012 08:42

I found Liverpool to be supportive and positive about me having a baby. They were really good to book me in for tests and hysteroscopy so quickly.

I have been getting bleeding and clots around ovulation time. It's really worrying me so I hope they can investigate that when they do hysteroscopy.

I got my results back from raj rai. I tested low positive for something (will check letter for exact test later) i think it's the antiphospholipid thing.

He suggests I take aspirin and heparin which I knew anyway but good to have an expert suggest it.

pebspop · 18/06/2012 08:47

Forgot to say I am 32 with no children yet. Started ttc two years ago and here I still am.

I tried opks last time I got pg but they never showed a positive. I got pg with id twins so it could have been one of those things last time.

I am panicking about the ovulation bleeding in case it is something that will stop me getting pg in future.

iloveblue · 18/06/2012 09:47

Can't be easy having an extra thing to worry about pebs. Could it be just a case of your body getting back to normal after mc? How long ago was the last one? I'm glad Liverpool are being proactive and interesting about your results from Raj Rai.
I'm using OPKs at the moment to determine ovulation (for nk cells test not ttc) and not having much joy.

pebspop · 19/06/2012 10:40

it could be my body getting back to normal - never had any mid cycle spotting in my life before. i have had two cycles since last mc. my consultant is going to investigate it during my surgery.

i went to liverpool yesterday and got my surgery booked in and had blood tests for all the usual mc testing. they also gave me my appointment for the results in a couple of months. i liked this as i am usually worrying if they have forgotten about me and i am always chasing up follow up appointments at my local hopsital.

i found liverpool to be excellent so far. my dh also commented on their efficiency.

which opks are you using? i tried clearblue digis and they didn't show up one smiley face out of £40's worth of tests!

iloveblue · 19/06/2012 18:33

Im using cheap OPKs from amazon - think I may have finally got a positive today.
Liverpool sound fab - hope they continue to be efficient and helpful.
Got a letter from my consultant today. I wrote to her ages ago asking if I could be tested for Factor V Leiden and a few other things that can cause late mc's - never been tested for them. She said no, basically - and also said that my anti-phospholipid tests have come back normal. I'm so scared that we will go through this process again only to be in the same position with no idea as to what is going wrong and with no one on our side willing to help us find out what is wrong.
Luckily prof Quenby said she would test me for them when I go for nk cells test but it still makes me cross.

Ostrich78 · 19/06/2012 21:32

Hi all,

Gup How are you doing? It is lovely that we have somewhere to support each other x I never did get that hormone crash, after the first I wasn't great either but then it was such a shock as I had a DS with no problems - I felt a little bit arrogant that we'd told people early thinking nothing would go wrong after the first!

LAF Is super fertility suspected in early MC? I seem to have no trouble getting pregnant, 1-2 months each try. MMC 8 and 10 weeks, last one was early but I was thinking of getting some OPKs anyway seeing as I have a whole month of not trying left, I may as well keep myself occupied....

Pebs Hope you get your scan soon and fingers crossed it's all fine, really glad you are receiving good care at Liverpool x

ilove Good news you have a positive, is your OH available this evening? That's great that you're getting tested (assuming that's private?), how frustrating that the NHS wouldn't do it!

MT How's things?

I got a BFN today which was such a relief. Still no AF but it's not even been 4 weeks yet - impatient!

GuppieK · 21/06/2012 19:36

Hi everyone. I went to early pregnancy unit today to get checked out as one week on from third miscarriage. Everything is out, which is a relief at least, and the midwife said I should ovulate again soon.

Midwife also said it would be a waste of time for my doctor to do blood tests next Tue as it's too soon after mc. She's written a letter for me to take asking him to refer me to recurrent miscarriage clinic. She said she hopes it doesn't annoy him! But there's no waiting list (aside from waiting couple of mths for body to get back to normal) and they can apparently do lots of tests. I hope he will refer me. When I saw him before he just kept asking if I'd definitely been pregnant all three times. I didn't go in the first two times either as when I phoned the surgery they said they only needed to see me if the pain got bad.

I really hope I can see a specialist. The thought of trying again with no extra support or medication to try fills me with fear. I can imagine I'd be so stressed about it going wrong again I'd have to go into denial about being pregnant, which would make it difficult to give up going out, having a drink, exercising etc.

iloveblue · 21/06/2012 21:51

Hi guppie - I'm surprised you have to get your GP to refer you. When I had my 3rd mc, the nurses at the EPU referred me directly. It is your right to be referred for testing so don't let the GP fob you off.
If you havn't seen it already the guidelines for recurrent mc testing from the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists are in the link on this page
Glad that the mc was complete and your body is starting to get back to normal.

ostrich hope AF appears soon. DH was available Smile but we're not ttc at the moment. Had to track ovulation as the test I'm having has to be done 7-10 days after it.

I've got an appointment next Friday with Professor Quenby at Coventry hospital. I'm paying £360 to have the uNK cells biopsy, but she is also going to do the blood tests that my hospital won't do (via the NHS clinic). Feels like a step forward. I saw her in November last year and she was the only one out of family, friends and medical professionals who said 'don't give up'.

GuppieK · 21/06/2012 22:58

Iloveblue - That's good news about your appointment. Keep us posted on the result. Have you had any NK cell tests before?

I think the EPU need my GP to confirm the first two mcs as I didn't go to EPU for those. They were at 6 and 7 wks and GP didn't suggest I get checked out. I don't know if that's normal, but luckily I didn't have any problems afterwards.

LAF77 · 22/06/2012 14:02

ostritch this is the link to the very technical paper regarding super fertility and miscarriage. There are no easy answers on how to fix it, but it's worth a shot to try something different in TTC after RMC.

www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0010287

Good luck in TTC.

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