Recurrent MC--Testing and beyond--Part 5 continues here

[LAF77]

Here is the list of us on the thread and where we are in our journey through RMC. Nearly 4,000 posts in a year, so mark your place for the next thread.

Part one Part one

Part two Part two

Part three Part three

Part four Part four

STARTING TESTING
LOLA78: mc1 Dec 07 (6wks), DD Oct 08 (problem free pregnancy and natural birth), mmc2 Nov 10 6wks ERPC at 10wks, mc3 Feb 11 at 7wks - suspected ectopic but mc naturally, mc4 mar 11 at 5wks (started 75mg aspirin from a week before bfp) - hospitalised for excessive bleeding and clots. Now referred for testing at local fertility clinic, we have started having blood tests and am on 5mg folic acid.
SCOOTERCHASTER: DS Oct 08 (managed for SVT heart from 35wks), mc1 Sept 10 (7wks), mc2 Dec 10 (9 wks - hb @ 8wks), mc3 April 11 (7.5 wks, hb day b4 mc).
HAIRYLIGHTS, age 42, MC1 (Jun 10, very low HCG, suspected ectopic, methotrexate), MC 2 (Nov 22 2010, MMC,ERPC, no heart beat at ten weeks, fetus 8 week size), MC3 (MMC - Medical Management, Feb 13 2011, MMC at 7 week scan). Waiting to TTC
PANDA 3MMC, no.1 (embryonic loss - empty sac) 7weeks, no.2 at 12 weeks, no.3 at 8 weeks. Awaiting raft of tests for recurrent MC
CLAIREDELOON Age 38 1st mmc, development stopped approx 5 weeks (2007), 2nd mmc development stopped at approx 6 weeks (2009), 3rd mc development stopped at 9 weeks after seeing hb at 8+3 (2010). Bicornate uterus, starting testing Feb 2011.
NOTSOBARRENBROOK Age 35. 1st mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2009), 2nd mmc @ 6 weeks (Jan 2010), 3rd mmc @ 11 weeks, development stopped at 6 weeks 3 days (March 2010), 4th mmc @ 5 weeks (August 2010). Possible adenomyosis, awaiting hsg and results of testing from St Mary's.
MILKYWAY2007 Age 28 - DD age 3. 1st MC Oct 2009, 6 weeks. 2nd MMC March 2010, 11 weeks (baby passed away at 7 weeks). 3rd MC July 2010, 6 weeks. 4th MMC 24 Jan 2011, 9 weeks - no amniotic sac, baby measured 7weeks 4 days, no HB, had seen a healthy HB at 7 weeks. Blood clotting, hormone, genetic karyotype and shape and health of uterus checked and all clear. High dose folic acid prescribed.
LUCKYFOR2 Age 32 - DD age 5. DD age 3. 1st MC May 2010 found at 12 week scan passed away at 9 weeks. 2nd MC September 2010 natural at 8 weeks. 3nd MC January 2011 at 16 weeks, saw hb at 13 but no hb at 15.5. All tests have come back clear. Going to take Aspirin and Progesterone in next pregnancy (will be on Promise trial) currently ttc.
IGGI999 - Age 40, 3 year old DS. 3 MC last year, at 6, 8 and 8 weeks. Last two had hb detected. NHS blood tests came back clear, except for presence of antinuclear antibodies. To take aspirin for this. Going to see Shehata in May as think steroids are needed.
CONFU3ED - Age 35 1st MC 1998 14 weeks. DD age 11. 2nd MC July 2009 5.5 weeks. ERPC Twice. No tests. 6 months Clomid 3rd MC January 2010. The foetus sent for testing - came back fine. Been referred to recurrent MC clinic at the hospital for tests, waiting for appointment. Was told I have PCOS through a scan but never diagnosed.

UNDERGOING TREATMENT
HAVINGKITTENS Age 41 - MMC1 Nov 07 8wks (discovered due to bleeding at 10.5wks) ERPC, TOP1 for TS21 Aug 08, TOP2 for TS21 Feb 09, TOP incomplete, ERPC performed, Genetic Counselling & tests confirmed no chromosome problems with us, "just bad luck ", MMC2 Feb 10 5.5wks (seen at 8wk scan, no bleeding), MMC3 May 10 (as MMC2), RMC testing at UCH, no cause found - empirical 75mg asprin & vit D + early & regular scans for next pregnancy, MMC4 No fetal pole seen at 6.5 wks, follow up scan 10 days later, told of MMC, then "Something" spotted so instructed to wait another week before they would allow ERPC, ERPC a week later, waiting for NK Cell test results from Mr S on NHS, taking 75mg Asprin, Vit D, Pregnacare Plus (w/Omega 3), 5mg Folic Acid (been taking since 1st TOP to try & prevent TS21 or similar issues), NK Cells levels almost double what they should be. 25mg Prednisone from ovulation - CD1 or if BFP then 'til 12 wks and then weaned off 'til 14wks plus Progesterone pessaries from BFP - 16wks, Folic Acid, Omega3, Vit D - 12wks, Asprin - 20wks.
CRYSTAL5 Age 38 - DS age 4. 6 m/c 1 at 11 weeks, 5 at 5/6 weeks. Ok blood tests, under Endocrinologist for Hypothyroid
LADYBEE 37, MC1 (5wks), DS (2), MC2 blighted ovum discovered @ 8 wk scan, MC3 natural @ 9 wks following hb seen at 7 1/2 wk. PCOS previously diagnosed, Factor V Leiden heterozygote discovered in recent testing. Treatment with aspirin (from BFP) + clexane started at 6 weeks. MC4 MMC @ 8.1 wks (discovered @ 11 wk scan) following hb seen at 6+6 wks. Consultant suggests aspirin + clexane to start at 4 weeks, plus progesterone pessaries. Management of MC tbc.
DIGITALGIRL Age 32 - DS 2.8 - 4MCs since ttc#2. MC1 Nov2009 @5wks. MC2 Apr2010 @6-7wks. MC3 Oct2010 @7-8wks. MC4 Mar2011 @8wks. All natural, except MC4 managed with ERPC for karyotyping. Clotting tests normal. DH & I genetically normal. On Metformin for mild PCOS, plus 75mg aspirin, Pregnacare Plus & 25mcg VitD3. Diagnosed with high NK Cells (1.25) after MC4. Starting TTC in May with prednisolone from ovulation and will add cyclogest once pg. Under care of Mr S.
PUREEQUEEN Age 34, MC1 (7 weeks Jan 08) MC2 (6 weeks March 08), DS born (prem) 2009, MC3 (9 weeks Oct 10). MC4 Jan 2011. First 2 natural mcs latter 2 mmc/ERPCs. Chromosome test MC4 showed she had a genetic abnormality (cri du chat). Karotyping for me and DH fine but with "increase in length on satellite of short arm 13 and 15" (??) . Also have endo &septate uterus. Now TTC and will take aspirin and progesterone.
LAF77 , Age 33, MC1 (7 weeks Apr 10) MC2 (5 weeks Sept 10) MC3 (9 weeks Dec 10). All have been natural mcs and number 1 and 3 were embryonic . No children, First appointment with St. Mary's in April, second round of bloods in May, with results in June.

PREGNANT
MATTSMAMA Aged 41. 1st MMC November 2004. My DS (who I love with all my heart) born 2006. 2nd MMC July 2010. 2 chemical pregnancies September and October 2010. Under Dr Shehata and got BFP on first round of treatment for high thyroid antibodies and high killer cells.
BANANA87 Age 30- 1mmc@7 weeks, DD (2), 1 mmc 6 weeks, 1 mc 7 weeks, Going to try aspirin and progesterone as per consultant. Clotting bloods normal.
MUMMYABROAD Age 36, 1DS (2.9), 1MMC Mar 2010 (@14weeks) Ashermans diagnosis and treatment Nov 2010, Started TTC Jan 2011 BFP on Cycle 2 EDD 4/11/11. Heartbeat seen at 10 weeks.
GLITTERYBITS 1 anembryonic MC (12 weeks), unexplained infertility, 1 round of clomid, currently pg and terrified!
JUSTMEE Age 21, MC1 (7 weeks), MC2 (6weeks), MC3 (5weeks) currently pregnant with 4th pregnancy using clexane injecting 20mg a day
LOVELYBUNCHOFCOCONUTS Age 23, 1 MC (13 weeks), 1 MMC (10 weeks - growth stopped at 7), 1DD born 2008, PCOS diagnosis, bi-cornuate uterus. EDD 03/10/11
LOVEMYSLEEP Age 39, 1 mmc, dd born(now 5), 2nd mc (9wks, 2days), 3rd mc (9wks, 3days) and 4th mc at 5 wks. All tests on NHS came back clear. Currently undergoing treatment with Dr.Shehata for very high natural killer cells - aspirin, progesterone, steroids, omezaprole and one intralipid infusion completed.

GRADUATES WITH BABIES!!
LUNATIC dd1(4) 2 mmc (8 wks) dd2 stillborn (32+5). Seen at St Mary's. clotting problem, pg #5 aspirin 150g daily. Ds1 born 9/2/11 c/s @ 35 wks
STILLFRAZZLED Age 35, DS1 (3.6yo), 1 mc @ 5 weeks Jan 09, 2nd mc @ 9 weeks March 09, DS2 born @ 35+3 on 04/01/11 with Intra Uterine Growth Restriction but currently home and doing well.
MUMATRON Age 28 2 dc then 4mc, 3 @9weeks 1@5weeks, tests showed possible free protein s ishoo. dd2 born 06/01/2011, aspirin, claxane and high dose folic acid through pg.
JULEZBOO Age 29 1 mc @ 14 wks, DS1 (8yo) 4 mc @ 5/6 wks, DS2 (3) 2 mc @7 wks... DS3 (14/01/11 @35 wks) Dx with Factor V Leiden and Septate Uterus. Clexane and Aspirin throughout pregnancy and progesterone with DS3.

remembering the due date for my third baby today. I've watched so many people announce the births of their babies on Facebook over the last few days. It should have been me too. I think about her every day. I don't know the sex of the baby for sure, but in my mind, the baby was a girl.

However, I am pregnant again. It is a bit surreal to consider this fact. I'll be 5 weeks on Monday. I'm desperately hoping that this time is different. I'm trying so hard to be happy this time. I know that there is nothing I can do. I've been through the testing, with no answers. I'm taking Pregnacare with Omega 3. Not much else I can do, but wait and see.

steph I hope that the coming weeks treat you gently. Do tell us about your puppy.

Thinking of you all.

LAF Didn't quite know where to post this, but this thread seemed more fitting than the other somehow. I've thought about you a lot the last couple of days and today. I knew how close our EDDs were (sorry if that seems stalkery - I just remember us discussing the fear of problematic scans etc. way back when and knew you were due about a week before me). I just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten and I hope today has been as bearable as it can be.

I'm desperately hoping this time is different for you too. You should already have your baby in your arms and I have a lot of anger on your behalf. It's just so bloody unfair dealing with pregnancies all around you, but try to remain hopeful. I have everything crossed that this little bean is a sticky one. Hugs. xxx

LAF77 - I hope today went as well as it could. I know it's very tough to think about how different things should have been. I really hope this pregnancy is the one that sticks.

Incidentally - you may all know this but I thought I'd share in case anyone doesn't - Dr Shehata's secretary said that, as well as a pregnancy multivitamin with Omega 3, he recommends vitamin D3 (25 micrograms, available in Holland and Barret).

Oh Laf, a sad day but hopefully a hopeful one for you too. Really glad you are having another shot, everything crossed for you.
I was told D3 important too, maybe more so for me up north!

hello

just got back from my holiday. went on a cruise around the med with dh. it was lovely but doesn't make up for not being pregnant anymore...

i read lesley regans book and found it very useful. i am going to read it again and make some notes.

i am also going to read through this thread to get up to date with everyones story.

what pre conception vitamins is everyone taking? i am thinking of getting pregnacare plus with the omega 3 but i ccan't work out if that is for pregnancy rather than pre conception?

i will try these vitamin d3 which have been mentioned above as well.

also, my lesley regan book is from 2004 is there a more up to date version?

Just popping my head around the door to say hello. it's great to see the thread still going strong. I found it to be such a comfort when I was going through the whole RMC thing.

I noticed a post up thread (9th july I think) from Bryan Beattie. He was my consultant and I give him full credit for my dd2. I doubt very much she would be here today if it was not for him. I can't help but think you may have missed a trick by not asking him some questions while he was on. (if you have any of course)

Mr Beattie If your still around, thank you for taking the time to post.

anyway, good luck to you all!

Morning everyone.

Sorry to hear you haven't been able to get the reassurance you need yet freelance. Fingers crossed it's just a matter of late ovulation and implantation, as others have suggested. A few days can make a massive difference at this stage as to what can and can't be seen. I agree that it's a good idea to hold off that little bit longer for a scan if you can bear it. Especially considering the cost!

Well, I had a lovely time in France. I didn't feel the slightest inkling that I was pregnant so I just decided to carry on as normal and indulge in plenty of runny cheese, shell fish, wine etc. Just as well too, as I am still in pursuit of that damn illusive rabbit. I did a test on Sunday and it came up negative and have done another this morning with the same result. Feeling a bit fed up about it, obviously. As my OH said, conceiving quickly was, if nothing else, one thing we had on our side in the past. That doesn't seem to be so easy now.

Oh, dammit! This seems to have posted on the wrong thread. I meant to post this on the TTC on Prednisolone thread but my browser crashed and I ended up reopening the wrong bit.

I've been away, as mentioned in my misplaced post, and missed what's been going on here. Just wanted to congratulate LAF on her pregnancy and hope that your due date passed peacefully.

I also wanted to say Steph I'm so so sorry for your loss. I completely understand, there comes a point where you just feel it's too difficult to put yourself through it again. I hope you are bearing up. There is no point in offering platitudes as I'm sure you are sick to the back teeth of them. Big squeeze for you. x

i have purchased some pregnacare plus and the dr beers book from amazon.

going to start taking the vits and have a good read when they arrive.

i have been feeling down recently about everything but i have got my first counselling session at work tomorrow so will be able to have a chat/cry about what has happened/will happen in the future.

Hello. Hi Mumatron, nice to see you. I think your doctor's post did come across as a bit of an advert! Tbh it freaks me out to hear about other doctors being great as I have nailed my colours to one mast and there's no way I could afford to start trying more doctors - when would I stop?
Havingkittens I'm just back from france too, made decision NOT to ttc while there so I could eat lovely cheeses and drink wine! And avoid the steroids of course. AF seems to have started today, so that's me back on the railroad.
PEBSPOP - here's my list, if it helps: pregnacare, omega 3, 5mg folic acid, vitamin D3, baby aspirin, selenium, magnesium, calcium and co-enzyme q10. (Some of these are in the same tablet thank goodness!) The first 5 recommeded by doctors, the rest by the experts on this thread!

I had the same feeling as Iggagog, it did come across as self promotion. Also, considering the fact that a lot of us finally feel we may have something to be optimistic about now that we are having the steroid treatment from Mr S, him coming on here and rubbishing everyone else's treatment did feel a bit like he was pissing on our fireworks somewhat. I'm sure his treatment is very credible and thrilled for you Mumatron that you had a successful pregnancy under his care and now have a longed for baby. But for those of us for whom it is completely unfeasable to travel to Cardiff for treatment and scans it's not especially encouraging.

I thought I'd give you all a little update about me. I'm hanging out more on the conception board these days. I'm only 5+1 with fairly mild symptoms. Sore boobs, not feeling nauseous today at all, but very sensitive to smell.

I went up to St. Mary's to get my medicine for the trial and I started taking the pessaries and sorry if TMI, but for those taking pessaries, do you have a lot of discharge? It is a bit unreal at the moment and kinda gross.

The nurse spoke to me as if I was a pg person. I don't really look at myself as pg. I didn't want to bother her with my neuroses, so I just smiled and pretended like I also agreed that I was pg.

I was supposed to do the repeat bloods for TEG, but I couldn't wait so long. There was someone giving blood who had 3 people in with her as she was really struggling and I couldn't wait to queue as I had to get back for a conference call.

I went to the GP tonight as I was concerned about a strong smell in my wee. He confirmed that I don't have a urine infection, but did comment on the discharge. I explained that I just started taking pessaries, so I thought it was related.

I wasn't happy with him (not my normal GP). I asked to have my Vit D levels checked and he said that there was no link between Vit D and RMC and thought it was nonsense to get tested. I had to explain that I was under RMC care, but they only look at clotting and I wanted to get checked. He again tried to dissuade me, but commented that I seemed really nervous and would agree to the blood test.

Honestly, I feel like I have to manage my own care. Everyone looks at their own little bit. It doesn't seem like there is a holistic view point for RMC. I doubt this GP studies up on RMC to know the latest research.

I have my first scan next week, so we will see if it is a real pregnancy or a false alarm again.

Thinking of you all.

LAFF77 - stumbled on this thread and noticed your post. Just wanted to wish you luck and with regard to the pessaries (Cyclogest - I'm presuming) I just wanted to say that when I used them I used the rear entrance rather than vaginally. It's not as bad as what it sounds and I had no problems with discharge etc. I used them at night before bed and was fine. I do know a lot of people had problems and when changing to the rear entrance found it much better. Hope this helps and good luck with that first scan next week xx

Vaginally for the progesterone made me quite sore and irritated, so I too switched entrances! You definitely see bits of it coming back out when you first pee in the morning, wee fatty lumps. Oh the things we end up discussing in this world! Keep fighting Laf and fingers crossed for you.

iggagog that is quite a list of tablets!

I will stick to my pregnacare with omega 3 until the docs tell me what to do. is the 500mg of folic acid a high dose that the doctor prescribes?

Pebspop, it's just 5mg - it was prescribed at the rmc, but only after I asked for it - have heard of a lot of people taking it empirically (a bit like being told to try aspirin anyway, even if you don't have a clotting problem). I'm swallowing them at the moment, which reminded me to reply to you!

Hi everyone, haven't been here for a while so thought I would drop in to say hello!

Unbelievably, things are going okay with me. I'm using a doppler everyday or sometimes twice a day to reassure myself. I think the fear of miscarrying is still there, but now it's turning into more of "what if my baby is ill?" "what if something wrong is found at the 20 wk scan?" "What if the brain isn't developing properly?" Just loads of these questions going around in my head.

I'm still taking aspirin, high dose folic acid, co enzyme Q and Vit D...I've stopped the Selenium and Magnesium and I've been told to stop the aspirin and folic acid at 20 weeks. I'm a bit scared about doing this. I have been told by my consultant in the past that realistically I could take aspirin until week 35, so I am going to discuss this with my MW next week. I don't want to take the risk and stop taking it before the pregnancy is viable.

I'm still having my counselling sessions at the hospital and alot of things have come up from my past about loss that the counsellor thinks may also be adding to my anxiety. It's going really well, and she is helping me to accept the pregnancy more and more with every visit, and hopefully, not forget, but accept the losses in my life and accept that good things can happen to me aswell, not just bad.

Waves to iggi, kittens, steph, scooter, lucky(haven't seen you in a while, if you're lurking hope you're okay and things are going well fo you - do let us know). Hope you're all well!!

Hi everyone,

Sorry for lack of personals I haven't really caught up ...waving and wishing everyone well.

Nothing new here, feeling quite low at the moment. Still in waiting for results limboland. I've been away quite a bit which has been great but makes it harder to come crashing back into the real world - a real world which is currently billowingly pregnant best friends and new babies.

Just been sorting all my maternity clothes, breastpumps, newborn babygros into bags for them all. It's so surreal and leaves me feeling totally numb. I started out (one pregnancy or another) with all of them and it is tough to see everyone else conclude their journey happily with babies that will be a constant reminder to me of their little friend I never managed to carry.

My NCT friend's new baby girl was born the same week as the due date for Baby 3 and I received the full force of the photos that same day. It's hard because now I am wrestling with wanting to be a good friend to her and visit and coo and do normal things but I just think about the situation and feel too emotionally stunted to handle it.

Fortunately I have been incredibly busy lately and not had the opportunity to consider going... next weeks looking free though.... so I will have to just get over myself and be brave. I know the better-person inside me deep down, can do it.

I've told other mutual friends how I feel about it all and to be honest I'm regretting it. Their reactions have been a total shock, slightly scornful, dismissive - people saying 'oh you'll be fine.' I know people don't understand but I thought they might at least acknowledge it's a tough call. That's why I came here, I know you guys really get it and aren't secretly thinking how did their nice friend get to be so bitter!

I'll keep you posted if I get any news or results before my March 2012 follow-up appointment. I really hope so!!!

Take care all x

hi everyone

i recieved my copy of dr beers books yesterday but it seems like a lot of heavy reading. i have read lesley regans book and found it informative. might save dr beers book for a later date.

i am starting to freak out about what could be causing my miscarriages. my dh says we should just wait for the results then start worrying when we know the facts.

thought i would pop some of my thoughts down here and will speak to my counsellor about them this week. any comments would be welcome.

1. when i went for a six week scan with my last pregnancy, the nurse asked if anyone had told me i had a heart shaped womb before. i said no, and she said it looked slightly heart shaped but it was hard to tell when you are pg. she told me this wouldn't have caused my first miscarriage ( i can't believe that is true when abnormalities of the uterus are a cause of miscarriage according to the books/websites i have seen) she said it could cause early labour and breech babies which is correct. when i went for an eight week scan a different nurse said my womb looked normal. i wished i had asked for the same nurse now as she might have been able to see something the other one didn't... Anyway i am going to mention this to my consultant and get a ultrasound to confirm if i have a heart shaped womb or not when i am not pg. If i do, i am not sure what treatment will be offered. Lesley regans book says she doesn't really like doing surgery to fix the problem so would i just have to risk pg again and hope for the best if i have this problem?? i don't google about heart shaped womb and miscarriage as i did this before and it wasn't very comforting reading.

2. i worry about having a chromosomal abnormality which means dh and i are incompatible and all our pregnancies will end in mc. this seems a bit far fetched and is probably a bit irrational. i know it can happen but both our pregnancies have reached a stage of 11 weeks and 16/17 weeks(was mmc at 20 week scan) so i assume if this was the problem our babies wouldn;t have even got that far. even though i can see it's highly unlikely, i still worry about it.

3. i worry one of us has a chromosomal abnormality which will be passed on to the baby. from my reading this could happen but there may be a eg. 1 in 4 chance that the abnormality will be passed on so still a good chance of a successful pregnancy. am i right in thinking if this is the case we could have ivf and the embryos are screened before inplantation?

4. i am worried i won;t be able to get pregnant again even though i have been pregnant twice without any problems. i was worried about this before i even started ttc and worried about it between my pregnancies. probably just being silly and irrational.

5. i am due to have a smear test and have never worried about them before but i am worrying that it will come back with a problem. probably cause i am getting used to bad news. also i don't know when i can book in for one after the mc. i got a letter when i was pg so i was going to wait until after the birth. now i want to get it out of the way as i don't want to ttc until i have the results back from the smear as if anything is wrong i won;t be able to be treated if pg.

does anyone know when i could go for a smear?

6. at first i wanted the hopsital to find a problem which could be treated, but at the moment i feel that i want them to find nothing wrong and try the tlc approach. not sure if not having a reason is better or worse than having a reason. it's very confusing.

positive thoughts

i do have positive thoughts most of the time but i sink into the worries every couple of days. i suppose it's only natural when you are waiting for results and don't know anything.

my positives are

1. most people who post on the miscarriage threads i have read do seem to have children at some point so that gives me hope.
2. lesley regan says is it very likely you will have a baby one day.
3. i am still young(ish!) i am 31 so i have time on my side.
4. i can concieve so thats one problem out of the way. i am grateful that i am not dealing with infertility on top of this.
5. my dh is supportive and is on board for ttc when i am ready.
6. i feel certain that i will have a baby one day

i wasn't sure whether to post this or not as i know a lot of it is irrational worries as i haven't had the results back from my tests yet. i probably won't hear anything for a couple more months. i am sure you have all felt like this at some point so am going to post it anyway in the hope that some of you can comment on how you felt at the begining of the testing journey.

Hi Pebspop. I don't have any great words of wisdom for you I'm afraid, just a lot of sympathy
Empathy, I should really say, as I've done all this answer-searching myself! I think you are going about things in a sensible, logical way. When do you get any results back, do you know? It is such a difficult time.
Regarding your books, de Beer focuses much more on immune disorders than Regan. If you've been told your womb was heart shaped (must confess I don't know what shape they are meant to be!) then you have every right to have this looked at properly.
Regarding smears, please try not to worry too much about this. Not everything will go wrong with you at once! I had one done recently which was 6 weeks after last mc. They just asked me to come around mid-cycle, so I made sure it was a cycle when I wasn't ttc.
Hope your counselling is giving you an outlet, my work offered that too and next time I will be taking them up on it.

Hope all the pg people are getting on ok, remember you give the rest of us hope!

thanks iggii.

i don't know when i will be getting the results, i am going for another blood test in a couple of weeks to test for clotting but they haven't sent me a letter for an appointment with the consultant. i will wait until i have this blood test and if i haven't heard anything i will ring them.

they say the heart shaped womb can cause problems as your womb can't stretch enough to accomodate the baby and can cause miscarriage, prem labour and may need a c section if the baby is breech as it doens't have space to move around. heart shaped wombs have a bit coming down from the top to make them look heart shaped rather than rounded. sometime the bit at the top can come right down creating two parts - as the epu weren't sure if i had it or not i don't think mine will be severe but is still a cause for concern.

pebspop your thoughts are not rational. You sound a lot more rational and calm than I ever did.

I don't have a heart shaped womb, but I do have fibroids. I know that Julez who is on the recurrent pregnancy thread had a septate uterus, but has 3 children.

Are they performing karyotyping on you and your husband? Having a genetic chromosomal issue is very rare, but you can have genetic counselling to overcome it.

Personally, I did want a reason for my recurrent miscarriages. I never got one, so I worry about the future.

I had my first scan today at 6+2 and the baby is measuring at 6+4 with a strong heartbeat. I happy for today. There is a long road ahead of me, but it is starting off well.

Thinking of you all.

LAF they have taken the bloods to do the karyotyping from us when i was in hospital. Not sure when i will get the results but i have my next lot of blood tests in two weeks. hopefully they won't keep me hanging on too long.

I will make sure i get a scan to confirm if i have the heart shaped womb or not. I am not sure how much this will affect future pregnancies, i suppose it's could be a risk everytime which i do not like the sound of.

Fingers crossed for this pg, are you getting the extra care and tlc that lesley regan talks about?