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lily allen's baby

38 replies

bundlebelly · 02/11/2010 11:02

Someone said today she has lost her baby. Anyone know how far along she was? Poor thing it must be really horrible to be in the public eye going through recurent MCs, and I supose I am making it worse by starting a thread about her, but just hoping she is ok.

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spilttheteaagain · 02/11/2010 11:14

I heard six months, which suggests it was either a stillbirth or a very prem baby that didn't make it Sad

jasmine51 · 02/11/2010 11:18

It was her second mc, first was earlier stage. Dreadful. Hope she is on here ingonito somewhere to get some support and mumsnet hugs

cupoftea123 · 02/11/2010 11:25

I cried when my OH told me the news this morning, miscarrying at 12wks feels like a mountain, i can't get my head around a later loss. I hope they are able to have some kind of funeral. My heart goes out to all of us grieving our losses. X X X

bundlebelly · 02/11/2010 11:28

Yes, there is a lot of support on here. How utterly sad and shit what some people have to go through. Love to all.

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KTDace · 02/11/2010 11:35

Awful, what a terrible thing to have to go through.

fireworknix · 02/11/2010 14:24

Every post i have looked at on the MC section has mentioned it - she is in our thoughts x

Privately its difficult enough, publicly just hideous i would imagine!

I think she's a secret mumsnetter and will secretly read all these posts!! Grin

sotough · 02/11/2010 19:51

i've been really affected today by her story - have been feeling quite upset about it. i simply can't imagine losing a baby at six months, never mind it happening twice. i think she was about four or five months along when she lost her first pregnancy. recent pictures of her show her looking really big and she must have been thinking she was 'safe.' she has said publicly that she struggled massively to overcome her first miscarriage, so we can only imagine how hard this is going to be to recover from. it's not clear what went wrong but my heart absolutely goes out to her. i hope she finds support somewhere, if not here, from people who understand just how dark it is. one good thing is she's only 25 so there is every chance she will have a healthy and successful pregnancy. she needs to see Lesley Regan....

daisyj · 02/11/2010 19:51

I hope so, firework Smile. I'm sure there have been a number of threads on this, but, having been too busy to seek them out today, I just thought I'd hop on here to say that a journalist friend of mine who recently lost her baby at 22 weeks is, we think, going to have an open letter to Lily Allen published in the Daily Mail tomorrow. She has been wanting to begin a conversation about late pregnancy loss as it's so little talked about, and I think she feels she needs to speak now. I hope that it will appear and be read and that it will be some comfort also to everyone who has been through this. I mc'd my first baby at 11 weeks, and like cupoftea I find it very hard to get my head around a late loss, too.

Dummyhunter · 03/11/2010 08:32

I rad this an hour ago and cant stop crying I think this might be the letter you were refering to daisyj - such a touching letter. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1326065/Dear-Lily-heart-goes-I-grieve-little-boy-came-soon-fragile-world.html

iloveblue · 03/11/2010 08:55

Thanks for the link Dummyhunter I've just read it also.
We lost our baby at 20 weeks a few weeks ago, but to lose two at a late stage (I read she was 18 weeks when she lost her first) is unimaginable. My heart is truly aching for her.

alittlebitshy · 03/11/2010 08:55

I just read it too (thanks for the link) ad have tears streaming down my face. some of the comments are heart rending too.

daisyj · 03/11/2010 09:09

I just came on to link to it too - thanks for that Dummyhunter. I only wish there were the resources to screen women who are ttc, so that in at least some cases this terrible heartache could be avoided. It won't be so for all women, but at least for some there will be a quite simple fix to prevent these awful losses, and imagine, apart from anything, how much it would actually save the NHS. Not that we can expect the powers that be to be quite that far-sighted...

peanuthead · 03/11/2010 09:26

HAving had 2 losses at around 18 weeks can I say the only good thing to come out of this is that maybe it's a bit of publicity so that people realise that it is possible to mc later on and that just because the 12 week mark has passed there is still a risk.

I have had so many people say that mcs just don't happen after 12 weeks and I think there's such a taboo about mentioning it to the extent that there is a real lack of awareness. I tell everyone everywhere about my 2 losses - I suspect that is just the stage of grief I'm at - partly because I want people to know and it to be something that is talked about.

I wouldn't have wished it on poor Lily Allen at all or anyone for that matter - esp as I thought her previous mc was an early one - but it is at least a chance for it to be talked about.

POor woman - I have a good idea how she is feeling right now and it's a very dark place.

daisyj · 03/11/2010 09:34

Exactly, peanuthead - I know that everything you have said is just what Rachel was thinking when she wrote the letter in the DM. This is a chance for it to be talked about - I am going to write a short letter to the DM today (ha! Never thought I'd write those words!), and hopefully more people will begin to talk about this.

I do know exactly what you mean about needing to talk to everyone. I was the same after my mc - it's as if for a while afterwards it comepletely defined who I was - just someone who had lost a baby - and it superseded everything else about me...

daisyj · 03/11/2010 09:35

I mean a letter to the DM in response to Rachel's letter, obviously...

peanuthead · 03/11/2010 09:38

Sadly like Rachel I was due this week. How wonderful to be able to write so publicly about it - will be very cathartic for her.

peanuthead · 03/11/2010 09:40

I'm glad to hear you say "for a while" Daisy - because it totally defines who I am. I can't actaully see anyone who doesn't know as I feel like they dn't know me. ANd I slip it into conversation constantly. ANd make the most horrible black jokes. Good to ehar I won't be this person forever and will move on - sure doesn't feel like it right now though. Mind you I lost both my 2 boys in less than a year for totally unrelated reasons.

littlewish · 03/11/2010 09:40

Lily Allen was just a celeb to me a few days ago, nothing in common, not in my world. Now I see her as a real person and totaly in my world.

I am so very sorry for her.Sad

bobthebuddha · 03/11/2010 09:45

A few years ago Linda Evangelista lost a baby at 6 months pregnant (she has had at least one child since). Remember seeing a picture of her randomly in the press somewhere looking distraught - so intrusive and horrible to have your loss held up to public scrutiny. That said I hope Lily can draw some comfort from the huge wave of sympathy she's getting.

littlewish · 03/11/2010 09:46

I agree peanuthead. I was due on 14th Nov, everyone in RL seem to have forgoten. Writting so publicly must be difficult but good to do.

daisyj · 03/11/2010 10:51

I'm so sorry peanuthead, iloveblue and littlewish - and I don't compare my loss to yours, Rachel's and Lily's. I didn't have a bump, didn't feel 'safe' yet, but still I think I can imagine a small proportion of what you must be going through. And this is really bringing it all back for me. Happily I have a 19mo daughter now, but I still remember sobbing to my mum about my mc, while breastfeeing 3mo dd - it never completely leaves you, but yes, it does fade, thankfully. (Incidentally, littlewish, not everyone forgets, I'm sure, they probably just don't know what to say - I had Rachel's due week marked in my diary, and it breaks my heart to see it there).

I have written this to the DM, but not sent it yet. Would be interested to know what you think... (sorry for long post!)

Dear Sir

Thank you for publishing Rachel Morarjee?s eloquent open letter to Lily Allen (3 November). She spoke from the heart about an issue that is rarely discussed and little understood. The common belief that a pregnancy is ?safe? after 12 weeks discounts the thousands of women (and men) affected by late miscarriages and still births each year, some of which might be avoidable if it were possible to implement a system of screening for women who were trying to conceive or in the early stages of pregnancy.

As anyone who has experienced it is aware, antenatal care is already something of a lottery in this country ? in some areas pregnant women see a midwife at around 10 weeks, in others not until after the 12-week scan. Even if comprehensive pre-conception screening were not an option, an extra test to check at an early stage, for example, for antiphospholipid syndrome, requiring low-dose aspirin as a treatment in pregnancy, would save hundreds of babies' lives every year. As it is, a woman usually has to wait until she has endured three losses before tests are routinely offered. Of course early miscarriage is incredibly common, and usually just a matter of bad luck ? nature?s way of dealing with a chromosomal abnormality in the embryo, a baby that never could have survived ? but this is no consolation to the women who go on to suffer multiple losses (at any stage) that could have been avoided had they been aware that there was a problem that might have been dealt with ? not an abnormality in the foetus itself, but something for which they themselves could have received treatment.

To pre-empt any argument over the expense of screening programs, I can only imagine that the cost of a few hundred thousand blood tests would be at least partially compensated for by the saving on the cost of scanning, treating and counselling those women who avoidably miscarry or give birth to still-born children every year.

I hope that if nothing else Lily Allen?s terribly public losses, and Rachel?s response, can serve some small purpose in beginning a long-overdue discussion.

Yours faithfully

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AnytimeNOW · 03/11/2010 11:30

Daisyj Very well written! Well done, and please send it X

daisyj · 03/11/2010 11:35

Thank you Smile

fireworknix · 03/11/2010 12:44

I have to say daisy i think that letter is great, the letter Rachel wrote was heartbreaking, (i am sat in a meet having just read it secretly trying to wipe away full eyes!)

My heart goes out to Lily Allen, its heartbreaking, but if nothing else she is bringing much needed publicity to a taboo subject that people are scared to discuss! (other people are scared to discuss it with those who have suffered a loss)

I mc in August and it broke my heart, just the same as anyone waiting for their first, second third or fourth child. It would be magical if this, so public, devastation could change things for the better :)

daisyj · 03/11/2010 18:59

Daily Mail phoned me this afternoon - they will be printing this as their lead letter on Friday/Monday. Coming to take my photo tomorrow - eek. Will post link when it's in if possible.