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GP searching on Google!!!!

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Roseshavethorns100 · 07/09/2025 14:15

Hi to anyone who reads this post.
I was in my doctors for an appointment last week regarding getting hrt, told her I'd had a subtotal hysterectomy three years ago and listed my current symptoms, told her I just can't function properly anymore.
The next thing I know she's on Google reading out about the type of hrt that should be given after said hysterectomy.
Is this normal for Dr's to do? Am I wrong to be really annoyed about it?

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Delatron · 10/09/2025 20:30

Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 20:13

Thank you, finally someone who actually gets my point.
It's unacceptable that they know so little, even when it comes to period problems they are unsympathetic and unhelpful and that's going from gp to consultant level.
Prescribe a man with viagra though no problem at all.

Yep I completely get it. I’m astounded that women think this is acceptable.

Especially as you say you’ve had a hysterectomy - it’s important the HRT is correct - you want someone who has a little bit of knowledge in this area.

It’s just not good enough. If we don’t complain and make some noise about this nothing will change. And doctors will continue to know very little about something that affects 50% of the population.

I reckon I know more about HRT and menopause than most GPs..

Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 20:58

Anonycat · 10/09/2025 12:00

Your OP was all about the dr looking for advice on the internet, and ended like this:

Is this normal for Dr's to do? Am I wrong to be really annoyed about it?

But you don’t like the fact that most people have told you it is a normal, in fact praiseworthy, thing for doctors to do, and yes you are wrong to be annoyed by it.

Whether or not you got good treatment is a completely different issue.

As for the practice nurse rather than the GP ringing with the blood test results, I see absolutely no problem with that unless they were giving you medical advice they weren’t qualified to give. The GP was rightly prioritising how they use their valuable time.

The treatment is part of the appointment and necessary checks.

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Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 21:01

ScaryM0nster · 10/09/2025 10:20

Menopause with partial hysterectomy is less common.

Put it in context of every GP appointment you or a member of your household has ever had. How many were sore throats / backache / general viral / bacterial infection.

vs one for menopause after partial hysterectomy. While it’s a big deal in your life, as a portion of patient interactions they’ll see it’s low.

(and if cost bothers you, then nurse making results calls is thoroughly sensible).

Menopause with a partial hysterectomy is no less common than with a total or no hysterectomy at all. Menopause comes either way.
The fact is menopause is as common as the cold and flu and they should know more.

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Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 21:03

Angrymum22 · 10/09/2025 11:43

Depends entirely on your overall medical history. GP medicine is a sum of many parts. If you have other medical conditions it’s important to look at the whole picture. Once they have ruled out other problems a referral to a specialist who will concentrate on their specialty area. A lot of money and time can be wasted if you are bumped around the specialities if the GP has made a quick assumption.
I had sciatica, it was actually caused by fibroids. I could have wasted a great deal of time seeing orthopaedics and being told there was nothing wrong. A referral to gyni confirmed the fibroids and that is was compressing the nerves. No amount of physio would have solved the problem.
The same with acute neck pain after breast cancer treatment. It would have been easy to jump to the conclusion that I’d had spread to the bone in my spine. A quick visit to the physio and it was diagnosed as a trapped nerve and successfully treated.
It’s seems like everything is attributed to menopause if you are between the ages of 40-60. My DSis died last year from pancreatic cancer er. Early diagnosis may have afforded her a few months extra but more importantly she would have received better pain relief throughout her ordeal if she and GP hadn’t assumed her vague symptoms were all down to peri menopause.

Sorry for your loss.

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Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 21:08

LazySusans · 10/09/2025 12:22

It seems OP as if you don't understand that HRT prescribing is not part of what GPs learn unless they and the practice invest in CPD.
Most use a simple online prescribing tool (maybe what yours did?) for GPs.

The issue you have by retaining your cervix is that some endometrial cells may be present- or they may not. This determines the type of HRT you should use.

Did you do any research yourself before your appointment? Because you could have, and gone in with the necessary information to speed it along.

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I completely understand it, I've done plenty on research which I went in with but she just wasn't listening or interested in helping she was supposed to ring me herself but clearly couldn't be bothered.
She barely looked at my list of symptoms she barely answered anything even after looking on Google whilst I was talking to her.

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Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 21:13

Delatron · 10/09/2025 20:30

Yep I completely get it. I’m astounded that women think this is acceptable.

Especially as you say you’ve had a hysterectomy - it’s important the HRT is correct - you want someone who has a little bit of knowledge in this area.

It’s just not good enough. If we don’t complain and make some noise about this nothing will change. And doctors will continue to know very little about something that affects 50% of the population.

I reckon I know more about HRT and menopause than most GPs..

Maybe you can help me then😊
I'm astounded too, but maybe you have to be going through it to understand it more, it's not plain sailing for so many women regardless of hysterectomy or not.
The misery of perimenopause and menopause is a big deal for many and it can and has ruined womens lives.
We have to be strong and advocate for ourselves because no one else will.

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DinoLil · 10/09/2025 21:21

I had a pharmacist googling if medication I was prescribed was compatible to take together as the leaflets said not.

He said, 'well, it should be okay...!'

LazySusans · 10/09/2025 21:45

Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 21:01

Menopause with a partial hysterectomy is no less common than with a total or no hysterectomy at all. Menopause comes either way.
The fact is menopause is as common as the cold and flu and they should know more.

Menopause after a hysterectomy tends to happen within 2 years regardless of age.

The treatment with HRT is different depending if you have a womb, no womb + a cervix, no womb and no cervix, and no womb/ no ovaries.

Maybe find a different GP if this one didn't know what to do?
No point going over old ground unless you want to make a formal complaint to the practice.

Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 22:20

LazySusans · 10/09/2025 21:45

Menopause after a hysterectomy tends to happen within 2 years regardless of age.

The treatment with HRT is different depending if you have a womb, no womb + a cervix, no womb and no cervix, and no womb/ no ovaries.

Maybe find a different GP if this one didn't know what to do?
No point going over old ground unless you want to make a formal complaint to the practice.

I completely understand all of that.
I will be going to a different gp.
I won't make a formal complaint because she was on Google or ignored me. She has to live with her choices and will be held accountable for what she does.
It's not exactly worth a formal complaint even though I'm pissed of about how she handled things.

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Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 01:09

Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 22:20

I completely understand all of that.
I will be going to a different gp.
I won't make a formal complaint because she was on Google or ignored me. She has to live with her choices and will be held accountable for what she does.
It's not exactly worth a formal complaint even though I'm pissed of about how she handled things.

You missed one no womb + lower part of cervix + ovaries.

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ScaryM0nster · 11/09/2025 14:15

Roseshavethorns100 · 10/09/2025 21:01

Menopause with a partial hysterectomy is no less common than with a total or no hysterectomy at all. Menopause comes either way.
The fact is menopause is as common as the cold and flu and they should know more.

The symptom management is different depending on the persons reproductive organ status.

Only a small portion of women have partial hysterectomys. Not all women seek medical advice for managing symptoms of menopause.

Therefore advising on menopause symptom management to someone with a partial hysterectomy is not a common part of a GPs role. I wouldn’t expect much on any health matter other than the many times a week stuff to be done without double checking latest guidance.

You’re frustrated. Fair enough. Using reference material during an appointment isn’t a reason to be though.

(and neither is your viagra comparison that you’re fixated on. That’s a very straightforward medication with standard dosing and very few contraindications).

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 15:28

ScaryM0nster · 11/09/2025 14:15

The symptom management is different depending on the persons reproductive organ status.

Only a small portion of women have partial hysterectomys. Not all women seek medical advice for managing symptoms of menopause.

Therefore advising on menopause symptom management to someone with a partial hysterectomy is not a common part of a GPs role. I wouldn’t expect much on any health matter other than the many times a week stuff to be done without double checking latest guidance.

You’re frustrated. Fair enough. Using reference material during an appointment isn’t a reason to be though.

(and neither is your viagra comparison that you’re fixated on. That’s a very straightforward medication with standard dosing and very few contraindications).

Regardless of hysterectomy or not the fact is that menopause has been around forever so they should know more. I'm not fixated on viagra being prescribed my point is that they have no problem when it comes to men's reproductive issues.
Furthermore the fact that women think this is okay is the reason this shit still goes on and women suffer for years without help.

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/09/2025 17:45

Roseshavethorns100 · 09/09/2025 21:13

I wouldnt refer to menopause being "less common".
Yes I would expect to leave with some information and I would also expect the gp to ring with blood test results and not the practice nurse!!

Why?

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 18:33

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/09/2025 17:45

Why?

Why not?

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/09/2025 19:05

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 18:33

Why not?

I mean, what's wrong with the nurse ringing you with blood test results?

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 20:39

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/09/2025 19:05

I mean, what's wrong with the nurse ringing you with blood test results?

She couldn't answer my questions!!

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/09/2025 21:03

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 20:39

She couldn't answer my questions!!

Well, neither could the doctor.
That's been the main focus of your thread.

LazySusans · 11/09/2025 21:19

She has to live with her choices and will be held accountable for what she does.

Live with her choices? Held accountable- who by?

There are no consequences unless you go back and explain your dissatisfaction.

Comparing menopause with erectile dysfunction doesn't work.
Viagra and other similar drugs have been available over the counter for years.

We al know that menopause is not treated properly by many in the medical profession but talking about it now for 5 days isn't changing anything unless you take it up with the GP.

And several posters have pointed out that your situation/surgery is not more specialised.

Hopefully, you will get the meds you need now.

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 21:44

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/09/2025 21:03

Well, neither could the doctor.
That's been the main focus of your thread.

I'm talking about the blood test here not the original appointment.
What point are you trying to make??

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Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 21:46

LazySusans · 11/09/2025 21:19

She has to live with her choices and will be held accountable for what she does.

Live with her choices? Held accountable- who by?

There are no consequences unless you go back and explain your dissatisfaction.

Comparing menopause with erectile dysfunction doesn't work.
Viagra and other similar drugs have been available over the counter for years.

We al know that menopause is not treated properly by many in the medical profession but talking about it now for 5 days isn't changing anything unless you take it up with the GP.

And several posters have pointed out that your situation/surgery is not more specialised.

Hopefully, you will get the meds you need now.

I am taking action for myself.
Talking about it in here for 5 days! Didn't realise anyone was counting if you're bored by it you don't have to read it!!

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Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 21:48

LazySusans · 11/09/2025 21:19

She has to live with her choices and will be held accountable for what she does.

Live with her choices? Held accountable- who by?

There are no consequences unless you go back and explain your dissatisfaction.

Comparing menopause with erectile dysfunction doesn't work.
Viagra and other similar drugs have been available over the counter for years.

We al know that menopause is not treated properly by many in the medical profession but talking about it now for 5 days isn't changing anything unless you take it up with the GP.

And several posters have pointed out that your situation/surgery is not more specialised.

Hopefully, you will get the meds you need now.

I'm not comparing the menopause and erectile disfunction, I'm comparing how male and female issues are approached by doctors.

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LazySusans · 12/09/2025 08:37

For the record, men often have to fight for testosterone replacement. That is under-recognised by GPs.

I'm not defending the fact that many GPs know little about menopause and HRT, because that's true.

But at the same time you're not willing to accept that your case is slightly more complicated and that's why your GP looked online for help.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 12/09/2025 10:28

Roseshavethorns100 · 11/09/2025 21:44

I'm talking about the blood test here not the original appointment.
What point are you trying to make??

That you were moaning because a busy GP hadn't wasted their time phoning you with blood test results, when it's the nurse's job to do this.

Have you any idea how many test results come in to a doctors' surgery every day? It would take one GP all day to phone every patient to discuss their results. They'd have no time for anything else.

Roseshavethorns100 · 12/09/2025 13:18

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 12/09/2025 10:28

That you were moaning because a busy GP hadn't wasted their time phoning you with blood test results, when it's the nurse's job to do this.

Have you any idea how many test results come in to a doctors' surgery every day? It would take one GP all day to phone every patient to discuss their results. They'd have no time for anything else.

Oh ffs get of your high horse.
Do you think nurses aren't busy all day with heavy workloads?
What a bullshit statement to make🙄

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Roseshavethorns100 · 12/09/2025 20:07

LazySusans · 12/09/2025 08:37

For the record, men often have to fight for testosterone replacement. That is under-recognised by GPs.

I'm not defending the fact that many GPs know little about menopause and HRT, because that's true.

But at the same time you're not willing to accept that your case is slightly more complicated and that's why your GP looked online for help.

I realise now that I should've given my post and poll a different title, it should have read "would you be annoyed"!!, because people clearly do not like the fact that I'm annoyed about it and I am entitled to be and will stand by that as that is my opinion.
Gp's in general don't want to do a whole lot since covid, they'll only give you an appointment at short notice if it's an emergency, you walk into the waiting room and there's only a few patients there so they're clearly seeing less patients in a day now and if it's not an emergency you could be waiting for nearly a month for an appointment and the waiting room is the same only a handful of patients. Very strange!!!

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