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Just goes on and on

28 replies

Agespot · 15/09/2024 04:26

Im now starting to even bore myself with the menopause. I'm 49, nearly 50 and have had symptoms since I was 45 but after the hot flushes cooled down, excuse the pun, it's been insomnia which brings on anxiety and feeling paranoid. It's definitely starting to cause me problems at work as I don't know where I am as I'm constantly overthinking what I've said, and have I upset someone. This then stops me from sleeping and then repeat.
I tried HRT for a few months, so don't know if that's what's caused it or if it would of happened anyway?
This horrible feeling just comes from no where, and just makes me feel so crappy about everything, but then it goes and I'm back to myself
Can anyone relate to any of this? My friend said try magnesium? I've got evening primrose, but they're too big for me to swallow. I suppose I just want to cleanse my body hoping to cleanse my mind

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Summerhillsquare · 15/09/2024 06:05

When I look back I see I've been suffering for 10 years at least, diagnosed 4 years ago now.

But - either symptoms are nearly gone as my my periods stopped or mounjaro truly is a wonder drug. So there is light at the end of the tunnel, eventually!

Tumbleweed101 · 15/09/2024 09:54

Yes, I’ve been feeling the same and just started HRT patches to see if it might help.

IBlameTheDog · 15/09/2024 10:38

My periods stopped a year ago and the last 10 months have been unquestionably the worst of my life.

I feel ill every single day. I feel dizzy, nauseous and like there is a vast build of pressure behind my nose. I'm wondering if it's down to anxiety caused by menopause having never suffered with it before.

I started HRT a month ago which has done nothing but since discovered that the 25mg patch is a very low dose. I'm hoping GP will up it before the 3 month trial ends.

I wake up each morning feeling utterly overcome with sadness and worry. And I don't even know if why. It's horrendous.

Enigma52 · 15/09/2024 12:28

This is me too.
Every day I want to cry. Every day I feel overburdened and worried.

I have oestrogen driven cancer, so can't even take HRT any longer.

Menopause started kicking my arse aged 48 and I'm now 53! Some days I wish the cancer would get me first, then I won't have to suffer the shite known as menopause!

Solitary and hoping we all " come out the other end" in one piece 🌺🌺

IBlameTheDog · 15/09/2024 18:59

Sorry to hear you're struggling to @Enigma52

Hope you manage to stay strong 💐💐

Enigma52 · 15/09/2024 19:25

@IBlameTheDog yes it's very hard. I feel very sad much of the time these days.

Let's hope we all feel better soon enough 🌺

Agespot · 16/09/2024 07:50

Hey, thank you so much for your replies, at least I know it's not just me. As I sit here now I'm getting another one of my pressure building nosebleeds which must be something else to add to the list
I'm trying to get motivated for walking, as I'm sure exercise will help.
So I was told by my doctor's that because I started HRT privately from work that they won't help me, apparently it's a new NHS directive? And the private doctor won't help me either said the prescription was for 3 months and now have to see my doctor!
The patches I had I've seen online but £30 a pop, whereas NHS HRT is £19 odd for all prescriptions for a year!
My periods have now stopped also, so maybe it's just the worst part, before the light

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Willthiswork78 · 16/09/2024 07:54

Hi, I'm 46 and after years of being unbothered by periods I am currently in bed with the most horrendous period pain. I've been getting periods every 2 weeks. Hot flushes, night sweats, anxiety, sadness, itchiness. It's horrendous.
I've got a prescription for hrt now but not started it yet.

SutekhsEars · 16/09/2024 07:55

The only thing that works for me is this magnesium from Amazon.
If I stop taking it for about 2 weeks I'm back to waking up multiple times a night.

Just goes on and on
Imalongtimepostingmum · 16/09/2024 07:58

Agespot · 16/09/2024 07:50

Hey, thank you so much for your replies, at least I know it's not just me. As I sit here now I'm getting another one of my pressure building nosebleeds which must be something else to add to the list
I'm trying to get motivated for walking, as I'm sure exercise will help.
So I was told by my doctor's that because I started HRT privately from work that they won't help me, apparently it's a new NHS directive? And the private doctor won't help me either said the prescription was for 3 months and now have to see my doctor!
The patches I had I've seen online but £30 a pop, whereas NHS HRT is £19 odd for all prescriptions for a year!
My periods have now stopped also, so maybe it's just the worst part, before the light

Pretty sure that's a load of bollocks from your GP. They might not be able to continue a private prescription (though my GP does), but they can start you on a new course of HRT.

CLEO42 · 16/09/2024 08:04

Imalongtimepostingmum · 16/09/2024 07:58

Pretty sure that's a load of bollocks from your GP. They might not be able to continue a private prescription (though my GP does), but they can start you on a new course of HRT.

Absolutely!

And my GP has taken on continued prescribing for testosterone which had been prescribed originally by private menopause specialist.

OP, you need a better GP. Look for one that has a Special Interest in Women’s Health or Menopause

Agespot · 16/09/2024 09:29

SutekhsEars · 16/09/2024 07:55

The only thing that works for me is this magnesium from Amazon.
If I stop taking it for about 2 weeks I'm back to waking up multiple times a night.

Will give the magnesium I go, ordering now

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Agespot · 16/09/2024 09:32

CLEO42 · 16/09/2024 08:04

Absolutely!

And my GP has taken on continued prescribing for testosterone which had been prescribed originally by private menopause specialist.

OP, you need a better GP. Look for one that has a Special Interest in Women’s Health or Menopause

Well I said to the nurse but I want something new, she said no can't help, I asked when did all this start this new directive she said beginning of the year?
It took me months to see her, I'm going to just go up there see if I can speak to someone.

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CLEO42 · 16/09/2024 10:05

Agespot · 16/09/2024 09:32

Well I said to the nurse but I want something new, she said no can't help, I asked when did all this start this new directive she said beginning of the year?
It took me months to see her, I'm going to just go up there see if I can speak to someone.

Maybe it’s a local directive? It’s certainly not a rule at my GP practice.

Do you have other practices near you? There seems to be so much variation in how they operate and it’s ok if you shop around for one that meets your needs. I’ve heard from friends in different places such woeful tales of trying to access healthcare for the symptoms of menopause and equally some example of excellent care.

I hope you get the care that you need (and that you are entitled to expect)

Agespot · 16/09/2024 21:20

CLEO42 · 16/09/2024 10:05

Maybe it’s a local directive? It’s certainly not a rule at my GP practice.

Do you have other practices near you? There seems to be so much variation in how they operate and it’s ok if you shop around for one that meets your needs. I’ve heard from friends in different places such woeful tales of trying to access healthcare for the symptoms of menopause and equally some example of excellent care.

I hope you get the care that you need (and that you are entitled to expect)

Ok, will try as I have moved so might just try moving to a nearer doctor, as I'm sure I'm probably too far from where I was going anyway. It's 3 miles away

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Ohjustalittle · 16/09/2024 23:26

I was dealing with the insomnia, anxiety and paranoia. I was also extremely depressed with no appetite. I was under a lot of work stress also but not anything I haven't dealt with before. However I just couldn't cope. So I took some time off, I was on sequential HRT at the time, then after doing some research I decided to move to continuous progesterone and the change has been remarkable. I'm sleeping and eating again. No anxiety and my moods are stable. I'm actually looking forward to future events instead of feeling anxious.

JinglingSpringbells · 17/09/2024 08:28

I really don't see how your GP can refuse HRT because you saw a private dr to start with. That really is nonsense.

Go back and query it or write to the practice manager.

The important thing is to get your HRT dose right and that will help your insomnia.

MissyB1 · 17/09/2024 08:52

Enigma52 · 15/09/2024 12:28

This is me too.
Every day I want to cry. Every day I feel overburdened and worried.

I have oestrogen driven cancer, so can't even take HRT any longer.

Menopause started kicking my arse aged 48 and I'm now 53! Some days I wish the cancer would get me first, then I won't have to suffer the shite known as menopause!

Solitary and hoping we all " come out the other end" in one piece 🌺🌺

Totally relate to this. I was thrown headfirst into menopause by treatment for my oestrogen driven breast cancer. 8 years I've been suffering now, it feels never bloody ending. The physical effects are bad enough, but bloody hell the emotional effects are a million times worse. Im 56, I wish someone would just tell me when it will end.

Agespot · 17/09/2024 23:38

Ohjustalittle · 16/09/2024 23:26

I was dealing with the insomnia, anxiety and paranoia. I was also extremely depressed with no appetite. I was under a lot of work stress also but not anything I haven't dealt with before. However I just couldn't cope. So I took some time off, I was on sequential HRT at the time, then after doing some research I decided to move to continuous progesterone and the change has been remarkable. I'm sleeping and eating again. No anxiety and my moods are stable. I'm actually looking forward to future events instead of feeling anxious.

The HRT i was on was Evorel Sequi 50, which I believe is a mixture of both.
Glad that you actually found something that works.
I've just got my magnesium tablets but couldn't swallow it! 🤬 I have terrible trouble swallowing pills
Think back to doctors, going to try one closer to myself

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Ohjustalittle · 18/09/2024 00:10

@Agespot I was on evorel sequi 50 for a year. I was fine for a month or two but felt my mood deteriote and anxiety rise so swithed to utrogeston and a 75mg everol patch but still sequential. Again I was fine for a month then noticed my mood dipped dramatically when I stopped utrogeston. So I'm now taking it continuously and I'm feeling good right now so hopefully I've got a good balance. I'm low in folate too after getting full bloods so started folic acid. Keep on pushing the GP, I know when you feel low it's tough but do the research and go armed with that.

Agespot · 18/09/2024 04:13

Ohjustalittle · 18/09/2024 00:10

@Agespot I was on evorel sequi 50 for a year. I was fine for a month or two but felt my mood deteriote and anxiety rise so swithed to utrogeston and a 75mg everol patch but still sequential. Again I was fine for a month then noticed my mood dipped dramatically when I stopped utrogeston. So I'm now taking it continuously and I'm feeling good right now so hopefully I've got a good balance. I'm low in folate too after getting full bloods so started folic acid. Keep on pushing the GP, I know when you feel low it's tough but do the research and go armed with that.

Hey, thank you for this.
I'm on annual leave ATM, so will pop up to the doctors
I'm just not sleeping, I mean it 04:12 now

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Ohjustalittle · 18/09/2024 09:21

@Agespot hope you managed some sleep. Remember go with all your information and don't be fobbed off. It took me a while to be able to be assertive and ask for what I wanted and needed. HRT hasn't been a quick fix, there may be some tweaking involved. But I'm not shy now to ask for a review and make sure I'm listened too. Ive been having talking therapy for a few months this has helped also. Let us all know how you get on.

Agespot · 20/09/2024 02:38

Ohjustalittle · 16/09/2024 23:26

I was dealing with the insomnia, anxiety and paranoia. I was also extremely depressed with no appetite. I was under a lot of work stress also but not anything I haven't dealt with before. However I just couldn't cope. So I took some time off, I was on sequential HRT at the time, then after doing some research I decided to move to continuous progesterone and the change has been remarkable. I'm sleeping and eating again. No anxiety and my moods are stable. I'm actually looking forward to future events instead of feeling anxious.

I'm so glad things are now better, as there is nothing worse then all those symptoms, and then to have to take time off work.
Did you tell them it was because of menopause, or one of the symptoms? Was they ok letting you have time off?

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Ohjustalittle · 20/09/2024 07:53

I got a sick not off my GP for anxiety and depression. I was off for two weeks and work were fine if they weren't I wasn't made aware. I do shift work, so reasonable adjustments were made for a few months to not vary my shifts too much so I could get into a sleep pattern and routine. Since then I have also stepped down a role to take some pressure off. I feel so much better now, I can relax at home and not worry about work. How are you feeling today? Hope you managed to get some sleep.

Andtheworldwentwhite · 20/09/2024 18:11

Ugh. I have had a few symptoms here and there over the years. I am 49 this year. But the last few months they have ramped up. During my period they are horrible. After my period is ugh. I actually left work early today. I’m sure I’m not ill but I just couldn’t do the day.

I have had anxiety for months which hits at random times Pain in my arms and legs. Feel terrible. I cannot imagine doing this for years on end. I am on the pill still. And not sure whether to come off it. I had a horrible weekend a few weeks ago. And I just feel like today was just too much. I have other health problems as well that affect me daily and this on top is sending me over the edge if I’m honest.