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Omg! 10 years of 'depression' that's actually been Menopause

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MabelsMam · 20/09/2022 23:02

I just wanted to let folk know my story, I hope it helps someone.
In 2013 I had a full hysterectomy, and went into menopause the very next day I remember it as clear as day.
I was refused Hrt as I'd had a blood clot after pregnancy 21 years previously and I was told I probably wouldn't need it anyway.
Over the course of the next 3 years my mental health took a nose dive, I'd loose my shit with my partner, cry and scream like a banshee, get in the car and just drive ( often not being aware where) my memory was shocking, I'd have panic attacks, anxiety was through the roof and my entire body hurt like hell... it got so bad I had to leave my job in 2017. The doctor prescribed me anti depressants they didn't work, I was sent to a psychiatrist who worked his way through a long list of anti depressants ( 9) for me to try .. again non worked. I was sent to therapy where they dragged up past events and told me that was causing my depression .. therapy didn't work.
I was sent to a rheumatologist who said I had Fibromyalgia and there was no cure for it .
A became a hermit I didn't leave my house, get dressed go shopping nothing I barely existed.
Now fast forward to Sunday past where I came across Davina Mccalls Sex, myths and menopause programme on C4... Omfg !!! This entire programme was about Me ... my symptoms, mental health everything ... I sobbed and sobbed because I finally knew what the hell was wrong with me !!! ... I had over 20 of the 34 menopause symptoms on the show .... I wasn't mad I was menopausal !!
Women who have a surgical menopause can suffer more severe and much longer symptoms than someone who goes into natural menopause ... so why in God's name had not one of the 3 Gp's, 3 psychiatrists, x amount of therapists never asked me about menopause symptoms even though I was in my 50's ?
Why was I handed tablet after tablet instead of considering whether the symptoms I was having could be hormone related ?
10 years of my life I lost and can never get back.... after watching the TV programme, researching non stop I could and can be prescribed HRT .. in patch, gel or spray just not in tablet form .. I can be prescribed testosterone ( yes ladies produce it too infact 4x the amount compared to estrogen ) to help with muscle and bone pain, loss of libido, and energy.
On Thursday I go to see a menopause Specialist in my area - a doctor who specialises in perimenopause, menopause and post menopause to get the HRT I should have had 10 years ago.
I can't get those 10 years back but what I can do is share my story incase there are other ladies who are feeling as crappy as I've been, who can watch Davina and go to their doctors armed with information and not get palmed off with anti depressants that won't cure menopause symptoms!!

Thank you for reading x

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MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 09:24

TheFormidableMrsC · 21/09/2022 09:21

I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. I hope you can get back to full health sharpish. I really sympathise as I'm suffering terribly right now but as a former breast cancer patient, HRT is not an option for me (I have asked). I've just recently followed a doctor who specialises in menopause on Insta as she has advice for people like me as a former BC patient herself. I need to sit and go through it.

If I can find a way to deal with the horrific anxiety and racing heart, that alone would be life changing. It's utterly shit.

Oh now Dr Naomi Potter who wrote the book with Davina has a section on Hrt and BC it might be worth having a look also Dr Louise Newson at Newson health has Menopause specialists who deal with Bc Paitents too which might help they do online appts

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Oblomov22 · 21/09/2022 09:26

My story is nowhere near as bad as yours, but I kept asking for HRT and was refused. Then finally given lowest dose. When I finally saw HRT consultant she was horrified I was only on such a low dose. I am cross at the poor treatment.

LadyFromage · 21/09/2022 09:27

I was talking to a friend recently. She'd had 4 years of feeling very low, culminating in a break down last year in which she was just a ball of panic and anxiety and brain fog: all making her feel useless and stupid and blaming herself for not being able to cope with normal life.

She started on HRT 6 months ago and is like a new woman. Happy, relaxed, great at her job again. It's made such a difference and she's now part of a group at her work, looking at supporting other women going through the menopause.

MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 09:30

LadyFromage · 21/09/2022 09:27

I was talking to a friend recently. She'd had 4 years of feeling very low, culminating in a break down last year in which she was just a ball of panic and anxiety and brain fog: all making her feel useless and stupid and blaming herself for not being able to cope with normal life.

She started on HRT 6 months ago and is like a new woman. Happy, relaxed, great at her job again. It's made such a difference and she's now part of a group at her work, looking at supporting other women going through the menopause.

That fills me with so much hope !!
I posted this ( I only joined last night ) as I want to save as many women as I can from what I've been going through for 10 years, I'm angry and hugely passionate now that this needs to be spiken about so much more and be made a norm and not a taboo !!!

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TheFormidableMrsC · 21/09/2022 09:36

@MabelsMam yes I know, it is really useful and I know several BC patients who successfully take HRT closely monitored. For me it isn't an option at all due to the nature of my tumour. My Oncologist was very knowledgeable and hugely sympathetic but it was an outright no as very high risk of triggering my cancer again (original tumour was triggered by medication for out of control peri bleeding, very similar to HRT).

It is what it is but having been in peri for more than 10 years, I'm sick of it 🤣

StarDolphins · 21/09/2022 09:43

Thanks for sharing!

shocked that they wouldn’t give you HRT after hysterectomy - why not give HRT alongside anti-clotting meds so you didn’t suffer!

I am on the pill for
perimopause symptoms & I take a baby aspirin each night just incase.

good luck

MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 09:43

TheFormidableMrsC · 21/09/2022 09:36

@MabelsMam yes I know, it is really useful and I know several BC patients who successfully take HRT closely monitored. For me it isn't an option at all due to the nature of my tumour. My Oncologist was very knowledgeable and hugely sympathetic but it was an outright no as very high risk of triggering my cancer again (original tumour was triggered by medication for out of control peri bleeding, very similar to HRT).

It is what it is but having been in peri for more than 10 years, I'm sick of it 🤣

Oh I'm so sorry you aren't able to take anything, 😔
But please don't suffer in silence my inbox is always open x

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Wotrewelookinat · 21/09/2022 09:44

Thank you so much for posting. I have been delaying seeing the GP about HRT, not sure why, and you have inspired me to make an appointment.

MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 09:48

Wotrewelookinat · 21/09/2022 09:44

Thank you so much for posting. I have been delaying seeing the GP about HRT, not sure why, and you have inspired me to make an appointment.

I'm so glad, in this day and age we shouldn't need to suffer this 😪

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Surtsey · 21/09/2022 09:51

barnjob · 21/09/2022 08:29

Just to correct a misinformation here, gynae is most definitely compulsory at medical school.

Wishing you well with your treatment.

Gynae might be. But how much time is spent actually studying the menopause and the horrendous long-term symptoms that many women suffer?

MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 09:54

StarDolphins · 21/09/2022 09:43

Thanks for sharing!

shocked that they wouldn’t give you HRT after hysterectomy - why not give HRT alongside anti-clotting meds so you didn’t suffer!

I am on the pill for
perimopause symptoms & I take a baby aspirin each night just incase.

good luck

It was a no end of conversation, I took them at their word and as the years went on I just assumed it was severe depression I genuinely didn't join the dots until last Sunday watching the programme my hubby and I sat open mouthed we couldn't believe it 🙈

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Ein · 21/09/2022 10:39

MabelsMam · 20/09/2022 23:27

I discovered watching Davina that training on Menopause is an extra module for trainee doctors and gynae it isn't compulsory which explains alot !!

My gynaecologist’s nurse said that my gynaecologist told her he did the gynae module because it’s an ‘easy quick course’.

Doctors’ approach to women’s health is a joke.

MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 12:07

Says it all doesn't it 🙄

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Queuesarasarah · 21/09/2022 13:07

Amarette · 21/09/2022 00:29

What hormonal treatment did you have for PCOS? Was it the pill or something else?

I went private and had oestrogen patches because any amount of progesterone (patch or pill) caused me serious issues. In my case I had really low estrogen levels.

YeOldeTrout · 21/09/2022 13:43

Please report back in a few weeks when your symptoms are all better.

RedHelenB · 21/09/2022 13:45

HRT doesn't work for everyone. Really hope it is your miracle cure though.

MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 14:08

Ohh me too, surely i can't feel any worse than I do now 🤞🙏

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MabelsMam · 21/09/2022 14:09

YeOldeTrout · 21/09/2022 13:43

Please report back in a few weeks when your symptoms are all better.

I promise I'll post my journey as it goes along x

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TheFormidableMrsC · 21/09/2022 18:42

@MabelsMam that's very kind, thank you!

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FlippertyGibberts · 24/09/2022 13:49

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WobblyLondoner · 24/09/2022 14:10

Good luck OP. HRT made a huge difference to me and it still shocks me how hard some women have to fight to be prescribed it. The thing I wanted to say is that you may need to try a few versions until you get what's right for you - I was allergic to patches and then found the pills that initially worked well got discontinued. But stick with it. I really hope it makes the difference for you.

MabelsMam · 24/09/2022 15:22

WobblyLondoner · 24/09/2022 14:10

Good luck OP. HRT made a huge difference to me and it still shocks me how hard some women have to fight to be prescribed it. The thing I wanted to say is that you may need to try a few versions until you get what's right for you - I was allergic to patches and then found the pills that initially worked well got discontinued. But stick with it. I really hope it makes the difference for you.

Thank you, I'm on Gel and 🤞 so far so good, no nasty side effects yet x

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Youaremysunshine14 · 25/09/2022 10:20

So glad to hear you are finally on the gel, OP. It's criminal that you were left to suffer for a decade and the more I hear stories like yours, the angrier I get. We all know that if men suffered menopause, the system would be set up so they got a notification on their 45th birthday reminding them to sign up for free HRT as was their right. 🙄

Onceuponawhileago · 25/09/2022 10:33

Im so sorry to hear this OP. I read the same about singer Sinead O Connor who had a radical hysterectomy and fell into exactly as you describe. Everyone thought it was her mental health issues but it was hormonal issues following operation. I wish you well OP! Great to find out as you have done.