Anyone doing carnivore?

[BeachBae]

I'm thinking of starting. Not as hardcore as beef and water, I need some variation and to limit the cost. I'll still eat fish, poultry, eggs, cheese if my weight loss is ok with it. Cream in my tea.

Most people prefer to be able to shit.

The reason you don't use the toilet as much is not because you are constipated, it is because you are putting less in your body that produces as much waste.

Its the same principle as a raw diet for dogs. They eat better quality so their body needs less and produces less waste as it is using most of what is put into it.

It makes a lot of sense when you actually look in to it.

Constipation isn't the same as less to come out

It means stuff to come out isn't moving out

Many people on diets without fibre suffer constipation

Yes but thats the point though, there just isn't that much to come out.

Carnivore seems to be a diet of last resort for those with a leaky gut who are badly affected by the malaborption of toxins and bugs. I would try everything possible to repair my gut first before resorting to this as the long term health outcomes are very poor.

Me! I am mostly carnivore to keep my hashimoto's in check.

Such misinformation in this thread already. I've never had an issue pooping on carnivore and I've been doing it for 7 years on and off switching to keto occasionally.

I do beef mostly, chicken and pork a bit less because of their feed, eggs, dairy, butter, tallow and decaf coffee. I also have herbs and spices that I can tolerate. I've never felt better. My low ferritin is gone, my hashimotos is in remission and I feel strong and healthy.

As to the cost ... I eat a lot less so spend less overall even though meat is more expensive than veg.

That's not what I'm finding.

That's what I'm hoping will happen, I'll want to eat much, much less so the cost evens out/even gets cheaper.

I have a couple of last bits to use up this week then I'll fully be on animal products only. I'm not giving up tea though but I'll use cream instead of milk. I have barely any, anyway.

The point is that if you are constipated which is a common effect of a carnivore diet you will feel pretty horrible

Note I say common not all

Sone people with specific genetic background do particularly well on a meat based diet

Most Europeans don't

Do what you want

But please

Promise you won't ever start any threads complaining of anything that is a normal ill effect of a restricted and unhealthy diet

I want to do carnivore, since I have a family member who swears by it, but I tried keto once and my anxiety levels shot through the roof. Apparently some people need carbs to keep their mood balanced and to be able to sleep properly. Might be something to watch out for

I've done very similar before and feel the healthiest I ever do when I eat like this so thanks for your concern but its not needed. Maybe someone on a slimming world thread somewhere would like your help?

I definitely think some people are for carbs while others aren't. I'm not sadly. Diet and changes can affect your hormones, fat/oestrogen etc so its fully feasible that they can affect your mood.

The worst symptom I struggle with is keto insomnia. I'll be awake half the night. But I seem to just not to sleep as much, I'm not tired though lack of sleep.

I’m the healthiest and leanest I’ve ever been (all my blood tests this year were great, bmi is lowest it’s been at 21).

I’m very close to carnivore, but have a bit of fruit/berries now and then for example. Avoiding carbs fixed my health issues.

I have zero problems toilet wise, quite simply less fibre means less waste, no constipation or bloating at all.

I used to be a carb fiend (think sugar sandwiches as a kid for example) and it took a short while for my body to adapt.

Now if I eat more than about 10g of carbs it makes me ravenously hungry.

I now also have no problems doing One Meal A Day if I happen to feel like it.

There is a huge body of robust research about the importance of fibre for the microbiome and the importance of the microbiome for long term health. That is without even considering the impact of the overcomsumption of meat on the activation of mTOR.

I am relatively high protein at 1.6g/kg as I strenght train but I would never consider going completely carnivore for these reasons, plus the diet is incredibly boring to maintain long term.

Your gut microbiome produces seratonin. The carnivore diet causes the die off of the good bacteria that produce the seratonin as the lack of fibre starves. The lack of seratonin is the likely reason for the negative impact on mood.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00210-023-02762-5#:~:text=The%20gut%20microbiome%20affects%20many,such%20as%20depression%20and%20anxiety.

That study says nothing about carnivore diet.

How come my mood is amazingly stable since going carnivore? How do you explain my panic attacks being gone and the fact that I was able to come off SSRIs?

@Thegreatgiginthesky mTOR is a vital process and is only a problem with rapidly dividing cells.

Insulin also activates mTOR each and every time you eat carbs.

If you want inspiration check out:
the Ketogenic Woman

And Laura Spath

Probably becuase you already had a leaky gut and the carnivore diet has meant that you removed the irritants and associated imflamation from your diet. It is like turning off the tap without fixing the holes in the seive.

If only there was a way to verify if those health claim were accurate. Wait! There is . The carnivore diet claims have been reviewed by scientists and the scientific accuracy of the claims has been rated at 28%, meaning 72 % of what they say is pure BS https://www.redpenreviews.org/reviews/the-carnivore-code/ .

And the person who wrote the book is no longer a carnivore because of the health consequences.

I don't have leaky gut. I do have prediabetes and gluten intolerance though.

Unless you are celiac gluten intolerence is likely to be caused by leaky gut
www.metsol.com/blog/leaky-gut-maybe-cause-gluten-sensitivity-non-celiac-individuals/

You have cream in your tea?!?

#missingthepoint

Because he's a lean mass hyper responder and uses selective carb intake to control it.

Please stop scare mongering.

In English, "lean mass hyper responder", means his cholesterol went through the roof.

The lean mass hyper responder (LMHR) phenotype is characterized by a pronounced increase in low‐density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL‐C) levels upon reduction in dietary carbohydrate intake and substitution with fats and proteins for caloric compensation.