Slimming World to Harcombe?

[FourArms]

I've been doing SW since 29/8. Initially on EE and now mainly on red days.

However although I've lost 1lb short of 2
stone I haven't lost any weight this week and I've stuck to the plan with the exception of maybe not enough syns / HEB.

Have seen the Harcombe diet and this seems to be more like what I'm doing at the moment although I'll have to swap coffee and skimmed milk for herbal tea and stop my 10 a day satsuma habit ;)

Just wondered what people's losses had been in phase 1 switching from SW? My BMI is still in the low 30s so I've got plenty to lose!

busy not bust!

Well done FA and NSHTH on your weight losses and your resolve. I've been nibbling on chocolate biscuits last night and had one today. I'm going to be on course again tomorrow. Good wishes to everyone

Well done both of you

Not doing well today, first day of my period, I've had 7 more Celebrations and a mince pie! Luckily now they're all gone, I'll be back on track tomorrow.

Well done NSHTH! My totm still hasn't arrived. Hope it pitches up soon or I'll have it over Christmas (although I am a mooncupper so the last few days are usually virtually unnoticeable now)

Another loss today - 0.8lb - which takes me to 15% less than my starting weight on 29/8 (mainly lost on SW) and into a new stone :)

of celebrations, biscuits etc. Was slightly tempted yesterday by fresh loaf spread with butter that my poorly youngest had as a snack.

Still on P1, although being careful now with NLY quantities and I've cut the 50g of porridge. Boiled egg & 4 spoons of NLY instead yesterday. Some left over cooked chicken and NLY today!

Really keen to lose 2.8lb by Christmas to hit my 2.5 stone target.

Well done FA, I am so impressed that you have lost nearly 2.5 Stone in that time and totally understand your determination to get there before Christmas. Will you carry on with Harcombe after Christmas? and if so how much more would you like to lose?

I STS yesterday, but have now been overtaken by a real curiosity as to how this diet is working. I was so frantically busy that the only food I could grab Porridge with Stawberries, smoked Trout, Turkey Casserole & root veg came to 800 calories and 65 Carbs. Normally enough to lose a little bit of weight. The day before I had eaten 1300 calories and 120 Carbs and lost . No issue though, I get the need for more fat and the food combining aspect and just need to refine my menu choices.

However, I have also decided to ditch the Porridge every day. I only need the berries to make the Porridge palatable so could easily go without both between now and Christmas. I am suspicious that this has been much harder since I started eating Porridge every day (didnt have any first few days of P1) and just want to see whether it is impacting my Insulin resistance.

Hope everyone has a good day !!

I've reduced my porridge amount to 35g of porridge so I'm going to see how I go with that. Its enough to fill me up. I really do need to fit some exercise in!

I started oil cleansing for my skin and I've now got a couple of spots. I hope that's it and my skin will start to become lovely and glowing.
I've been imagining myself slim with lovely skin. It's now my mission to get there :)

Agree on the exercise front BV. I am a member of a Walking Group and have an 8 miler coming up on Sunday. I am secretly hoping I might lose a lb on the walk. Just worrying about the pub afterwards!!

How much more do you want to lose?

Ideally I need to lose 3 stone but will be happy to lose 2.5. I can't even get 1/2 stone off at the moment!
I've cut out snacking, I've cut down on wheat to hardly anything and my portions aren't huge. The lack of weight loss is starting to annoy me.
I was thinking I might do the thread title the other way round and try slimming world!

NotSure, I think I've read before on the Harcombe website that if you're not eating enough (and 800 calories doesn't sound enough!) your body will hang on to it because it thinks you're being starved. That would explain why you didn't lose. You need to up your fat and protein intake I think.

I've eaten fairly high fat meals for a couple of days - meat fried in butter/olive oil with hearty portions of veg. Prob not high fat overall since 50% veg, but they've been really lovely and filling.

Went out for dinner with kids and had a latte. My first since starting Harcombe. Didn't finish it just didn't really want it. :)

I will stay on some sort of diet post-Xmas. Realistically I've still got 2 stone more to lose. I like P1 Harcombe. Not missing anything so will probably stay with it, with maybe occasional lapse like lattes. No carbs with fat though.

Do need to start exercising for toning though - would like to do C25K. Went to GP about it in Aug before I started SW and she said I needed to just start with gentle walking!!

Well I've eaten half a bar of Green and Blacks chocolate and a piece of christmas cake. Now looking round for something else to eat Don't know what happened

Sounds like several of us are looking to lose similar amounts. I want to lose another 25lb.

I understand your frustration BV but have been down the Slimming World route twice and never keep it off. My experience was that it didn't change my underlying sugar / fruit addiction or give me the tools I needed to stay slim the fact that I found the leader deeply patronising, also didn't help.

I do think Harcombe is helping me to change habits and I suspect that I am being silly standing on the scales every day. After the initial weeks at Slimming World I only ever lost 1lb a week, so I am not sure I can expect any more from this.

Having said all that I have had a disasterous day today. Bagging fudge for the School Fayre today resulted in three large lumps sneaking between my lips and I then ended up having an Indian with friends tonight.

The best toning exercise I have ever found FA is Pilates. Darcy Bussel does a fab introductory DVD. I now do it in the evening whilst watching TV. It gives me core stability and is great as a complimentary exercise for walking.

And 1lb on. Now exactly where I was last Saturday morning. Rats............

:( NSHTH :( Are you drinking enough? I've read that if you are off plan you can have a big gain from the water the carbs hold onto which normally disappears just as quickly.

I'm starting to worry a bit about Christmas. What is everyone else planning to do? Might give myself the day off? Or skip carbs with meals but have dessert with lunch?? It would normally be a mega-eating fest for several days.

How did the rest of your day go Wombat? Fresh start today :)

I'm down again today, think by 1.4lb but I might have remembered that wrongly! :) Have a good day everyone :)

Fantastic FA well done !!!

Think I need to go back to first principles. I'm struggling to eat enough fat, so my calories are often too low and just dont know what to do when faced with meals that mix fat and carbs. Normally in the latter case I just go without, but that isn't always possible.

I am with you re Christmas. Don't really know what to do.^ My thoughts at present are that I will enjoy Christmas Eve and Christmas Day as normal and then deal with the carnage afterwards. I don't want to go without the chocolates, booze and roast dinner although I hope I won't pig out.

I reckon I can skip choc and booze, but I want Christmas cake, trifle & Christmas pud!!

I've taken to buying lots of bags of pre-prepared veg and salad. I love the cabbage and leek mix from Tesco - half a bag sweated for a few mins with butter = heaven! Also I took a bag of salad with me last night to add to the measley portion I got at dinner (the crunch salad mix with cabbage and carrot). It takes ages to eat so I munched right through their desserts!! (It was only a Morrisons cafe so I got away with it!)

I think for Christmas I'll probably have some pudding, cake, chocolates, but not have potatoes etc. hopefully I won't feel too deprived then, but also not have huge amounts of carbs!

Thanks about the slimming world info NotSure. I shall carry on with this then.
I'm probably not drinking enough water. I'm going to up the veg and water this week.

As for Xmas day, I'll just stick to my no snacking rule. That means I can enjoy meals with everyone, including pudding but won't eat a tonne of sugar in the form of chocolates and extras. I don't drink anyway so that won't be an issue. I'd love to do a post dinner xmas walk but its pitch black by 4pm!

Not done well yesterday or today. Hormones all over the place, horrendously painful period, I've lived off chocolate and crisps

I don't know if I can ever do this. I hate myself today, feel so fat but can't seem to control myself and stop eating rubbish.

Also when I do manage to stay on track life gets in the way, my boss buys cake or friends bring cake round and I feel rude refusing to eat it. My boss won't take no for an answer and I know he means well so can't refuse to eat the cakes he buys.

I don't know how I can train myself so that I can have one cake but not then carry on eating sweet stuff?

I wish I knew how to make this way of eating possible whilst still having a normal life.

With you yesterday SG but I have no period to blame.

Took 3 children to see Frozen and ate my body weight in Chocolate. I have no idea why, it was almost as if the hand creeping into the bags belonged to someone else. Now I have the most horrendous headache imaginable.

Don't hate yourself. The food habits we have today have taken a lifetime to develop, often due to misinformation, media pressure etc. just take it one hour or day at a time. Every time you resist putting crap in your body you are one step closer to the habits we should have developed. Over time it will get easier and eventually the scales will respond.

I agree I also need to develop some coping methods for real life. I watched everyone in the Cinema yesterday. The minute we sat down we all started scoffing. What I should have done was take a tupperware of Berries. Wouldn't have been ideal, but would have been better than Chocolate.

0.2lb on... Maybe?! I could have misremembered yesterday's weight? Day 1 of period anyway so that can be responsible for anything! ;)

Re boss SG - could you tell him you're trying to eat healthily? Or that you want to get into a certain dress for a big event? I've had to tell people at work as otherwise they'd think it a little odd that I've gone from mainlining fruit to seemingly eating nothing!

I've been fine so far but if I had an event where eating takes place, I'd take Harcombe friendly snacks - olives? Veg sticks? A pot of yoghurt? So I didn't feel hard done by whilst others eat.

I have tried telling him that, an egg custard tart is his idea of healthy, as opposed to doughnuts!!

NotSure sorry to hear you're struggling too.

I used to like meat, but these days I'm not so keen and it's expensive too. I couldn't face bacon and eggs this morning

Ah I see! Bless him for trying :)

I've tried turkey as a cheaper alternative to chicken, but it wasn't the same. Although it was quite 'meaty'. I've bought some frozen meat to try this week - quite like the peppered pork loin steaks from Farmfoods (cook from frozen). Have also bought frozen lamb steaks from Morrisons now.

I've also been buying lots of odd bits from reduced sections as I quite often cook a sep meal for me and then something for just kids.

New week tomorrow! 9 days until Christmas :) Plenty of time to make a difference :)

BV - re SW, I used to be a consultant. I think red days are v.similar to Harcombe & I think you could carry across lots of the ideas. You don't need to use all the 'fake' products - just use syns for the NLY etc. I'm still writing up my days as per SW, and I'm within the plan still. :)

SG tell him that you need to cut out sugar for health reasons.
I started to refuse cakes at work a while ago. We had them about 3 times a week. Now it just seems normal for me to not eat them.
I still struggle with it and am tempted very often but I feel I have no right to them as I stopped buying them too.

When it comes to dieting, you just have to be strong. I've noticed that the people who succeed are the ones who put themselves first and don't worry about offending others.
I've got two very slim friends and they have never eaten a cake or biscuit at my house. I did feel a bit put out the first time I had them over and I'd baked a cake or something but now I'm used to it and just wish I could be more like that too!