Slimming World to Harcombe?

[FourArms]

I've been doing SW since 29/8. Initially on EE and now mainly on red days.

However although I've lost 1lb short of 2
stone I haven't lost any weight this week and I've stuck to the plan with the exception of maybe not enough syns / HEB.

Have seen the Harcombe diet and this seems to be more like what I'm doing at the moment although I'll have to swap coffee and skimmed milk for herbal tea and stop my 10 a day satsuma habit ;)

Just wondered what people's losses had been in phase 1 switching from SW? My BMI is still in the low 30s so I've got plenty to lose!

Fab result LP1, I am impressed !!!

Sounds like a good plan NSHTH :)

Hello all

Will let you know how I get on at the pub! I've just had a ham salad (lettuce, carrots, cabbage) olives and some mayo. I feel stuffed.

I had eggs, bacon and tomatoes for breakfast, really enjoyed it but I feel like am eating loads. We then went out for a long walk in the woods to wear DD out and it was nice not to feel hungry until it was actually lunchtime if you know what I mean.

I'm enjoying this so far- really hope I loose. Haven't weighed yet as I don't want to be put off! Bought some low fat natural yoghurt on the way home so can use that as i need to. Are many of you carrying on with Harcombe? Ive seen the bootcamp thread too & trying to figure out how it is different or if they are the same? DH can't figure out what I am eating!

Hello all.

Nshth - I think Harcombe is good to use as a foundation and then play around with it to find what works for you longer-term, so your idea sounds great.

I know, for instance that dairy will stall weightloss for me, so when I did the MN bootcamp I didn't lose anything.

I was another lb down this morning - it falls off once I start, and I find I don't crave chocolate, wine or bread as I would have done previously.

Once I have lost the few pounds to get back to goal, my rule is to stick to phase 1 during the week, but occasionally have bread and some dairy, then relax but not go mad at weekends, and never eat carbs after 7pm.

Today I have bent the rules a bit, but have been very active:

Brunch - sausages, black pudding, bacon, egg, tinned tomatoes and some HP sauce. Caffeinated coffee with milk, but no bread.

Snack - nly with cinnamon

Dinner - onion soup with a little Parmesan, then chicken, mayo and olives.

I have just made another batch of mayo, and my coleslaw from last week looks ok for another day's lunch tomorrow.

Good luck all.

I think bootcamp and Harcombe are fairly similar, Bootcamp just seems a little stricter on the veg you're allowed. I'm going to combine the two and see how it pans out :)

Hope pub went well? And if it didn't.... Tomorrow is another day!

I like your maintenance plan FOA. I was similar on SW 11 years ago - got to target only following the plan Monday to Friday lunch. Maintained for 6 months by which time I was 6 months pg!

Funny food day today:

B - NLY & pork rind from yesterday's joint
L - pork salad (extra lettuce) and HM mayo (has improved with refrigeration I think?)
D - McDs (shhhh!) latte and side salad followed by some chilli and coriander king prawns when home

Took some ibuprofen before bed due to headache and work tomorrow which is meant to halt fat loss on Harcombe, but I need a good nights sleep :(

Night all :)

Well done everyone on your post Christmas weight losses, it looks like we are all back on the wagon now.

2lb off today, so now only 0.4lb away from pre - Christmas low.

I think the reason I liked 5:2 so much in the Summer was the fact that I knew that even I couldn't have something on the 2 really low days, it was always available on the 5 higher calorie days.

For me the key to successful long term changes in eating patterns will be around changing the psychological belief that 'i am on a diet' to 'this is my new way of life'. I won't get there if I am denied foods like fruit and cheese both of which I love. Hopefully my Harcombe 4:3 (am going to do 3 days P1 and 4 days P2) will help me achieve that long term.

Yesterday P1 was water Porridge with a handful of berries and a bacon Omlette for Lunch / Supper. Lunch and Supper got combined because I took myself off for a walk early afternoon and when I got peckish at 9.00pm I did 1/2 hour of Pilates whilst watching Sherlock.

Well done on your weight loss everyone. I'm another pound down today.

I really like you're ideas of combining p1 and p2 and am going to follow you're advice as I'm enjoying p1 but can't give up the cappuccinos!!

Today's menu
B - bacon and tomatoes
L - chicken soup and a salad
D - steak and roasted veg

Back to work tomorrow so doubt I'll have time to cook breakfast. Any ideas for a non cooked breakfast? I was thinking berries and yoghurt. Is it ok to have the total greek yoghurt rather than natural yoghurt?

Sorry your not you're. Tablet likes to change things!!

Morning all

Well done on weight losses! I did have a sneaky peak this morning & am down 4lbs (today is day 3) so v pleased with that, at least as it must mean I'm doing something right.

The pub went well thank you- I think it helped knowing what I was going to have before & was happy to order my steak with a big salad, and it was lovely. But felt quite full. A few others had puddings but I treated myself to a filter coffee!

It was nice to come away from a meal & feel suitability satisfied without feeling over stuffed & regretful of crap that I have eaten. I lve spent a long time feeling that way so it's nice to start the new year feeling better.

I've been sleeping fairly well but having odd dreams- I know someone else reported that in the early days up thread!

Little pudding I'm back at work tomorrow too & was going to ask exactly the same about breakfast. Does everyone feel that porridge fills them up as much as having eggs/ bacon etc for breakfast?

I woke up with a bit of a headache during the night & think I do need to drink more water.

I had terrible problems with bad dreams and sleeplessness during the first two weeks LQ. I believe that was probably due to the detox effects of P1 and it does pass.

I have microwaved Porridge (1.5 mins) each day for breakfast. At first I struggled to have unsweetened water porridge so started off 50% Milk / 50% Water. Now even the all water porridge tastes oK. I add a very small handful of berries (50g Blueberries or Strawberries) for sweetness. That keeps me going till mid afternoon.

I love Bacon and Eggs but not early in the day and am much happier with Porridge as my daily start !!

Well done all, especially lizard for negotiating the pub successfully.

If I have water porridge, I add cinnamon and cardomom (sp?) seeds, making it more palatable.

I am not a big fan of porridge though, so my quick breakfast is rice cereal and nly.

2 boiled eggs with carrot sticks to dip is fairly quick too.

LittlePudding, as long as the yoghurt is live and full fat it's fine

I find too much yoghurt used to slow down my weight loss though

Have you thought of hard boiling a couple of eggs the night before and making egg mayo with some chopped up Wiltshire ham (other sorts of ham may have sugar added, Wiltshire ham doesn't) mixed in? You could make your own mayo - very easy and posted above I think

Can someone help me to understand what the issue is with Mayo. I checked the back of the Hellman's bottle and it is very low carb.

I dont mind making my own Mayo but use very little, so would like to use Hellman's occasionally.

Oh goodness it was all going so well but this afternoon ended up turning into a bit of a binge. Feel really crap about it. Not going to go through everything I ate but sugar & carbs. Feel bloated and cross with myself now. I felt i was doing so well.

Dont stress LQ, we have all been there !!

This diet is about long term changes to carb addiction etc. Don't let one little slip undo the progress you have made to date.

The trick is to stop right now. Don't let the binge continue and don't beat yourself up.

You can do this. Re-exert control and spend any spare time this evening planning a really good day tomorrow.

Thanks NotSure

Yes I am determined not to continue tonight. I literally have tummy ache from what I ate, not because of the amount but literally within half an hour i felt bloated, just goes to show.

NSHTH - well done on the loss :) I'm really keen to make this a WOL instead of a diet too. Mayo - Hellman's is 1.5g to the Delois 0.6g but perhaps it's that Hellman's has added sugar?

LP - total Greek is fine I think. I find it VERY filling with oats. I had Tesco finest oats and was full until 2pm easily.

LQ - glad the meal went well. Headache could also be caffeine withdrawal if you've cut down? However, more water within reason, can't hurt. I also had the weird dreams at the start and they happened again for a few nights when I was detoxing after NYE. All gone now though.

Hope you're feeling better now? Lots of water and a peppermint tea?

Hi, SolidGold here, I've namechanged as people are CONSTANTLY going on about my name being too similar to another MNetter

I think the problem is the added sugar in hellman's mayonnaise - Harcombe WOE means no sugar in order to break the addiction. Also in HM mayonnaise you know exactly what's in it.

Thanks FourArms. Yes going to get an earlish night- back to work tomorrow (groan!)

Have had lots of water but will ask DH to bring me up a peppermint tea- good plan. Thanks for your support guys. I think of previous diets/ plans I've simply mucked up & thought I can't do it. But with this although you have to be strong, you feel so much Better when u are doing it I can't imagine going back to low fat diet/ SW/ WW. And thinking of all the stuff that's added to products to keep them low fat. Blah! Determined to keep going

Well done LQ :)

Welcome Kazzawazzawoo!

Down a smidge today - 0.6lb. I had a bad day yesterday - forgot my lunch so had a school lunch - so any loss is good :)

0.6lb away from overweight BMI :)
7.6lb to my Valentine's Day target :)

B - NLY, salad & HM mayo

Not weighing today. Have decided that the slight rollercoaster of daily weighing demotivates me, so going to start weighing Monday mornings.

Blood sugar checked today though. When I started my Fasting Blood Sugar was 5.6 (101) i.e pre diabetic. As my Mother and Grandmother both had Diabetes and my Mother lost her leg and eyesight to the disease and then died from Diabetic induced Kidney failure, I am desperate to avoid the big D. Fasting BloodSugar today = 4.9 (88.5).

I really want to get down to 4.5 so I am safely in the normal range but am jumping for joy that this WOE is doing what I set out to do.

Oooh and well done FA, so close now to that next target !!

That's great news NSHTH.

I was so going to end up with Type 2 diabetes eventually with my horrific diet, hopefully this is the new me now :)

I agree with you LQ. This diet is so logical and easy to follow I just wish someone had told me this secret 30 years ago.

When I look back I have been on a diet most of my life and have spent thousands of pounds on SW / WW etc. Each time I have lost the same three stone and then gradually put it all back on again.

The reason is simple, we were told in the 70-80s that high carb , low fat was the healthy option. In the process of trying to be 'healthy' I developed the most incredible sugar addiction. I believed that my lunch box crammed with fruit was a virtuous lunch, alongside a nice piece of cheese. Ditto my sugary breakfast Yoghurt. It was Yoghurt after all !! I didn't stuff myself, the weight crept on little by little, settling gently around my thighs and stomach and in the process destroyed my confidence as well as raising my Diabetic risk.

It makes me so cross that we continue to receive such mixed messages about what is healthy even though there is now masses of research available that sugar in all its various guises is what is driving the world's Obesity crisis and threatening to destroy our NHS.

I also feel immense frustration at the way in which the Slimming industry has highjacked people's desire to beat their weight problems, just to sell it's own highly dubious alternative products. I can honestly say that none of the weight plans I have followed have ever taught me what I was really doing wrong, until I stumbled over this thread.

When I reach my desired weight and FBS score I will owe you a massive bouquet FA for making me investigate Harcombe and helping me stick to it. Obviously I wont be sending chocolate !!!