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Low-carb diets

Week 3 - Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - The Crossroads!

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BIWI · 22/09/2013 23:12

So we have reached the end of the first two, strict weeks.

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

By now, if you have stuck to your knitting, you should be ketogenically adapted - which is to say, you should have switched your body from burning carbs to burning fat.

Hurrah!

Flowers

You now have a choice. You can relax things a little and can include some fruit (berries) and some nuts/seeds - and a little alcohol in moderation The rules of Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet.

Or

You can stay on Bootcamp, if it suits you - as long as you promise me that you are getting your carbs from vegetables and salad!

Another option, which many of us adopt, is to do Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

The choice is entirely yours!

I hope that everyone is enjoying their food, which is the most important thing. And good luck for the next week.

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AuntieMaggie · 23/09/2013 18:29

Crabby I've just had your cauli cheese recipe (minus the almonds, bacon and leeks...) for dinner with gammon and I think I love you Blush I was a bit worried I wouldn't like it as I don't like the braised cabbage thing (too rich) but it was lovely... going to try the chicken curry later in the week.

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Purple2012 · 23/09/2013 18:41

I have had chicken broccoli and cauliflower in a cream cheese sauce for tea. It was so filling I couldn't eat it all.

Just going to prepare my food for tomorrow.

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twistyfeet · 23/09/2013 18:57

Another 2 pounds gone despite 2 days stuck in a place where only carbs were avaialble. why arent there carb free snacks outside the home? I ended up eating cheese strings
I also managed to make courgette noodles despite thinking courgettes were the food of the devil. Not bad. Might go and do some more in butter.

B. Boiled egg in mayo
L. creamy mushroom soup
S. nuts n cheese
D. stir fried mushrooms, tofu, onions with courgette noodles

snack coming right up. More courgette noodles Grin

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BerylStreep · 23/09/2013 19:03

Shiratake noodles are great too, and zero carb. I get mine in my local asian supermarket, but I am reliably informed that Holland & Barratt do them too.

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whodunnit · 23/09/2013 19:14

no loss or gain for me this week ( end of third week for me)

I found Stuntnun's link veryinteresting and realise that now Ihave not really got hunger anymore, I need to eat less. Womder if I am adding too much fat. 1 tablespoon of butter when cooking...too much?

300 calories to not eat or use up for each pound of fat, according to stuntnins link. So we are still in the eat less, move more game, which makes sense to me. We have just adjusted ourt food types to stave off hunger. Tell me if I am wrong, please.

Tofay I had no breakfast as I was saving myself for the weigh in on the work scales. Lunch tuna mayo n lettuce. Dinner cabbage, celeriac, celery, mushroom, courgette soup with cream. No snacks.

Well dne Charlie on the half marathon.. I am dead impressed!

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loopyloou · 23/09/2013 19:36

B: egg mayo with bacon
L: chicken in mayo with salad with HM dressing
D: burgers with Stilton, fried mushrooms, buttered asparagus and salad.
S: yoghurt with extra thick cream!

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googoogoggles · 23/09/2013 19:52

Think the traditional formula is 3500 calories per llb of fat Whodunnit - so you'd have to have a daily deficit of 500 calories (or burn some of those calories off through exercise) to lose 1lb of fat a week, so 7000 for 2lbs etc but there's a lot of debate on-line about whether this formula is accurate (and what's being burned off – lean protein or fat – depending on your build.

Think I may start re-reading Briffa book this eve...

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whodunnit · 23/09/2013 20:05

googooogooogles

Yes you are right it is 3500 calories per pound of fat - my number five key does not work and I forgot! What is the briffa book? I have just ordered the atkins book so I can have all the carb counts of veg to hand.

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starrystarryknut · 23/09/2013 20:46

holmes what is the flax seed muffin in a minute? Recipe please!

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LilyAmaryllis · 23/09/2013 20:47

Wow Mouse that sounds AWFUL I'm so sorry.

I think you are right whodunnit except its important also to eat enough calories in fat to make sure the body doesn't think its in starvation mode and lower the metabolism. Confusing huh - somewhere between enough and not too much.

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whodunnit · 23/09/2013 20:55

thanks Lily. All helpful. And easy to get wrong I expect as fat is packed with calories. Not that we weigh things on this diet, but I guess we have to keep an eye.

I do remember meeting a bloke who lost lots of stones of weight and claimed to eat as much steak as he wanted all the time. But I think he must have been exaggerating.

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dementedma · 23/09/2013 20:55

Failed miserably and have been massive car by twat due to feeling ill and totm.
Will try and get back into it.

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whodunnit · 23/09/2013 20:57

My DD are delighted as I m now cooking exciting food for them not the boring old stuff I always did. This is good.

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whodunnit · 23/09/2013 20:58

go on, demented. you can do it.

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BIWI · 23/09/2013 21:12

I'm a bit Hmm at all this talk of calorie counting. We don't count calories at this point of low carbing, and you definitely shouldn't start restricting the fat. This is a low carb/high fat way of eating remember!

whodunnit - I think it's worth you having a read of Dr Briffa's book, "Escape the Diet Trap" - it will explain it much better than I can! And it absolutely is not about 'eat less move more'!

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BIWI · 23/09/2013 21:19

have a read of this piece by Gary Taubes It's a bit long, but it's really worth it.

Eat less, move more doesn't work

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BIWI · 23/09/2013 21:20

demented - sorry you're feeling ill.

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holmessweetholmes · 23/09/2013 21:48

Starry - it's 1/4 cup of milled flaxseed, 1/2 tsp baking powder, 1 beaten egg, 1tsp oil. Then you can add various things to make it either sweet or savoury (cinnamon or cocoa and a bit of sweetener, a small handful of berries or a bit of cheese, herbs, spices, whatever). Put ingredients in a mug, stir well and microwave on high for 1 min.

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JustasmallGless · 23/09/2013 21:58

Stuntnun and starry
The IPD cookbook is the Idiot Proof Diet which is by India Knightand Nerys Thomas which has some fab recipes in.

In the actual IPD book there is a great chapter on emotional eating.

I have been on a course today where it was extremely difficult to go for breaks so I didn't drink as much water as I should have done.

whodunnit - I can highly recommend the Dr Briffa book to explain the science behind it all.

In weeks 3-5 where your body is stabilising and you aren't losing weight it can be common to think fuck it and not bother. As well as weighing make sure you measure as you can lose inches rather than lbs.
Pag - you sound like a case in point if your clothes are fitting better but you haven't lost much on the scales.

Remember the health benefits too.
No sugar =no thrush
Better skin, hair and nails through eating fat.Which is good for you,despite what the carby twats and the government have been telling us for years.

Lets have it right, the only reason we were told to eat 5 a day is that a group of fruit companies sponsoring a study told us to! That ladies, is just the tip of the ice berg

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BIWI · 23/09/2013 21:59

And Pag - you are teeny tiny so there can't be much of you to disappear anyway!

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JustasmallGless · 23/09/2013 22:01

demented - think about what you have eaten and why you have eaten it. Is your eating linked to emotional eating?
Perhaps you would benefit from reading the IPD chapter on emotional eating. It really is like a lightbulb moment.
I'm not saying I don't revert to type - after all I was conditioned for 40 years to use food as a comfort and in times of extreme stress thats exactly what I do. However the times that I do that are fewer and fewer since LC and identifying my triggers.

Its my choice what I put into my mouth and I just didn't want to be overweight and miserable any more.

After LC for 8 months I came off my AD's completely and have been a different person.

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whodunnit · 23/09/2013 22:08

BIWI and justasmallglass: thanks for the advice. I guess I am just trying to make sense of what seems like a weird (but very pleasant) diet when it goes against everything we have ever been told. I read the article and see the point. I need to buy the Brffa book now.

I do very much like the fact that my teeth must be better off without all the sugar. I am still on this or in this or whatever the phrase is just curious. Off to Amazon I go, then.....

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Livelongandprosper · 23/09/2013 22:10

Marking my place on this week's thread. 1lb off this week, very happy with that. Have started running too. Blimey.

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JustasmallGless · 23/09/2013 22:11

whodunnit - the more info you have the better really, especially if you feel you have to defend your food choices to other people.
For the DC I just say that wheat makes my stomach sore but for DH I try and explain to him the science bit. I would love to convert the whole family to Paleo but not quite there yet.

There was a Q and A session on Mumsnet with Dr Briffa last year - BIWI may be able to link? Is it on your low carb welcome bit?

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BIWI · 23/09/2013 22:16

The Briffa book is very good. If you are up for some 'light' reading, then the Taubes book "The Diet Delusion" is really good - but it's a massive tome!

Livelong - woo hoo!

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