Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - When the Going Gets Unexpectedly Tough

[BIWI]

I'm starting this thread a little earlier than usual, as I have to be at work at dawn's crack tomorrow

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

So from tomorrow, you can move on to Bootcamp Light, if you want. (Rules on the tabs on the spreadsheet). That means that you can introduce fruits (berries only) and nuts (in small quantities), as well as alcohol (albeit in moderation!)

You don't have to, if you don't want to. You could continue to do Bootcamp if it's suiting you - or do Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend. Whatever suits you.

Whatever you decide here is something really important that you need to know about weeks 3 and 4 (and possibly 5):

It is very common for weight loss to stop at this point in the diet. You may even find that you gain a pound or two. DON'T PANIC! It is entirely normal. Your body is switching from carb-burning to fat-burning, and is re-adjusting to your new WOE. You have jettisoned a lot of water weight, and have emptied your glycogen stores. You will also have lost some fat. Now, your body is working on just burning fat.

PLEASE DON'T PANIC AND START TO TRY AND CHANGE ANYTHING. THIS IS ENTIRELY NORMAL AND HAS BEEN REPORTED BY MANY LOW CARBERS BEFORE YOU. STICK WITH THE KNITTING, AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED BY SEEING THE SCALES MOVE AGAIN IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO

Good luck for next week. As ever, post any questions on the questions thread, and keep us all updated as to what you're doing/eating.

Willie. At big arse breakfast! Sounds lovely. I would do that for lunch. Not enough time in the morning with the DC unless I got my substantial behind out of bed earlier and put my breakfast in the oven before shower. Now there is an idea!!

I know about the snacking. The DC have a morning snack and an afternoon snack and its hard to avoid joining in. I do think the nut butter is better than falling into a packet of kitkat though. (I don't give the DC crap. They get fruit or fromagie frais).

I do put oil over my salads and I cook the meats in butter. Sorry I didn't mention that in the other post.

At meal times I do eat plenty and I am very full but without the snacks I am hungry in between.

Like today I had the bullet proof coffee and ended up having two teaspoons of hazelnut butter at 10 but that is now keeping me full till lunch. Which is black farmer chipolata with leeks and mushroom cooked in butter.

If my fitness pal is correct about fat content, I eat 80% of my calories as fat and less than 10% (often 7% or less) as carb and the rest protein which should work well.

I trying to keep away from dairy but its hard. I fell into a pack of appenzeller cheese last night while the DC ate dinner. They eat at 5pm and DH and I eat later. But I often find I am starving at 5 and that's when I eat a lot of naughty stuff like pork crackles and cheese. I tend to eat the nuts earlier in the day.

Pork crackles and cheese are not naughty! (Well, the crackles are processed, but apart from that ...) They are fat and fat is good. The nuts are also good, but do add carbs into your diet.

Try drinking some water next time you're hungry - hunger can often be a signal of dehydration

BIWI. Thank you. I do cook and roast in butter and oil
And add oil to salad.
I drink 6 to 7 pints of water a day plus 3 or 4 cups of peppermint, green or other herbal tea.

6-7 pints of water? Is that even possible without exploding!

Too much. Yes it is. I read somewhere (dr Briffa or BIWI?) that you need to drink a minimum amount according to your weight per day when low carb. For me/my weight it's circa 6 pints which is 3 litres. If you are lighter it will be much less.

Off to have broccoli and stilton soup.

captainmummy thanks, I've been reading a lot online, and it's been convincing me, just DP that's been making me doubt. Or at least making me wonder if it's worth the effort of trying to do it with him putting his oar in. Any meals where he's had mashed potato I've just replaced with cauli mash. I need to find a low carb alternative to tortilla wraps that I can secretly use if we have fajitas!

Queen I think you need to have the courage of your convictions and say to DH that this is what you've decided to do, you've done your research (which he is welcome to read) and he must respect your decision.

You don't need to get into a discussion about every food choice you make, but it is helpful to have a few low-carb one-liners. There are some great ones in captainmummy's post.

Or appeal to his inner conspiracy theorist and explain that it's in the government's interests to support the big pharmaceutical businesses and supermarkets who put money into the economy through their shitty low-fat-low-calorie products. They're not going to piss them off by telling people the truth about carbs

Above all, prove him wrong by losing weight through this WOE!

Thin omelettes apparently work well as wraps.

Queen - my dp knows about the Lowcarbing in our household, (he is doing it too and has lost over 10kgs in 6 months without once complaining about being deprived) but the dc have no idea. They get the carbs (potatoes or rice or whatever) and puddings. I have either a low-carb substitute (mashed cauli for mash, cauli rice for rice, etc) or i just go without (roast pots, yorkshires, pasta)and have extra veg, which i prefer anyway. It's not easy if it's like risotto or pasta dish, but i don;t do those often & if i do i cook something else for me.

I haven't told anyone else, not work, not wider family, not friends, that i am low-carbing. If we go out to dinner, I pick something reasonably low-carb. If I'm entertaining I cook something that i can put on the table to help themselves - then just avoid the carby bits. No one has ever noticed.

What i am trying to say is - does anyone else need to know? Would your Dp know if he got a plate of mash and you didn't eat yours? (dinner equivalent to 'nod and smile, nod and smile ... and ignore.'!

And re fajitas - make thin omellettes and use those. I did this the other day and used them as wraps round chicken and mushroom, covered in cream sauce and cheese.
Or look up cream cheese pancakes on 'I breathe, I'm hungry' website. Lots of low=carb recipes.

Toomuchtoask - I drink at least 5 pints of water a day, on top of about 4-5 black unsweetened Rooibos tea (in my mug which is 3/4 pint!) so I'mdrinking about 7 pints.

There is a chart somewhere depicting the amounts you should drink according to your (over)weight.

You do pee like a racehorse for the 1st few weeks but after that your body settles down. I have a pint and 3/4 black tea at 730 and dont need the loo until 10am now.

And it's so good for your body to flush out the ketones, toxins etc. Your skin, hair, eyes, digestion will thank you.

Thanks for your advice BIWI with regards to bootcamp and bootcamp light. BTW.....my friend has lost 7 stone and she was diabetic type 2. Her doctor had warned her that she needed to take action. She has tried diets again and again and of course they don't work. So she did low carbing and lost the weight and now does not need her medication as long as she stays low carb because of the way it controls her insulin resistance. Brilliant for her and she looks and feels amazing.

I drink 2-2.5 litres a day

A good tip to get water is to drink put of a bottle with a sports cap.

There is something scientific about it being easier to drink more from a bottle than a glass. Works for me!!

I think it is really interesting how different people react to things differently. I know some are reporting migraines on this diet. But for me this woe has got me off the serious strong meds that were controlling my migraines. And the it has only been the last few days that I have suffered a really severe scary migraine, since first jumping onto this woe back in october. Prior to this i would have at least 2 or 3 severe migraines/mth and 2 or 3 minor migraines/wk. Admittedly i do suffer a few low level achy headaches during the transition onto the woe. But compared to the long term benefits it is so much nicer.

B: scrambled eggs
L: Alpro yoghurt and low cal sausages

interestingly i wasn't feeling very awake this morning, put normal amount of sugar into my coffee. took one mouthful and had to pour it down the sink cos it was so sweet it was vile. Urgh. Was nice to be back in that world.

Waves to new start- good to see you back!
What a positive health benefit for you

Thanks again captain I've found a recipe for crepes made from egg and water, so I might try that instead of fajitas.

I mentioned it to my physio today and she said there's no problem reducing carbs unless you're already not eating much. She just said 'if you're already eating rice, pasta, bread potatoes there's no problem cutting down your carbs'. So I think I'm going to get back on the wagon again.

Woo hoo! Welcome 'back', Queen!

We will give you all the support that you need. If you like, we could come round and duff your DP up for you as well?

o.k - had a real carb craving and have just eaten a packet of crisps !! This was after a huge bowl of celeriac soup - think( hope) it's because it is totm.
Was crisps better than something sugar laden ? Or am I kidding myself ?
Still feel hungry

No. Crisps just as bad! You are kidding yourself and, worse, you will now be hungrier because you will have sent your blood sugar levels soaring - and they will crash just as quickly.

Don't do it!

o.k

Gless well had to do something about the migraines. Tis a bit scary sitting in a meeting with the Specialist going we gotta get this under control otherwise you are highly likely to end up in a coma sooner rather then later. Nice to be able to do this through food and life style choices then meds with horrible side effects. that said I will be asking for the meds back for a short patch next week as a precaution after this recent migraine.

It is nice to see everyone again though. Have missed your wise words of advice whilst surviving rl chaos.

... and it's lovely to have you back, NewStart!

Tbh it's how I survive my RL chaos with support from online friends!!
Always someone here no matter time of day.

Anyway have just treated us to steak in Diane sauce with mushrooms and tender stem broccoli which will be roasted in chilli flakes
Dh will have chips

QueenofDreams - can I ask who does the majority of the cooking in your house?
Dh was a bit sceptical but has seen the benefits both weight wide and health wise. He keeps asking me to have a cholesterol check as cant believe I can eat all this fat without some repercussions. However he will now make courgette pasta and cauliflower rice for me.
I would love him to be fully on board and eat this way too but no chance!
If your DP has to cook is it just inconvenient for him? We are behind you all the way

Hi all.

Queen - I'm sure it makes it very difficult to follow bootcamp with constant negativity. Not sure what to suggest that other haven't. Except I would probably be likely to tell him that I was an adult who could make my own decisions after research and if he wasn't willing to read the research and support me, he should just butt out. But that's just me!

Busy day here.

B - some ham and egg mayo
L - salad with lots of various leaves, cherry toms, feta, avocado, smoked salmon and wasabi mayo and extra olive oil.
D - will be pork steaks with cabbage and leeks fried in butter with some cream.

If I was to roast broccoli - how long for and what temp please? Sounds interesting!

lots of gardening planned here over the weekend if the rain lets us. Went to garden centre this afternoon and have now got tonnes of plants to plant.