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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE

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venusandmars · 29/06/2025 08:46

A new thread to gather together those who have been on the most recent short bootcamp, those who were on the previous one, and all those who have followed bootcamp over the years.

It's ongoing chat so there's no spreadsheet. But effective low-carb principles remain the same, and I've copied the rules again at the end of this post. Of course, in ongoing chat most people will be following their own version of boot-camp, not the strict rules. So there may be some fruit (berries, rhubarb etc), some nuts, the odd glass of alcohol. Some may be mixing low-carb with intermittent fasting.

My own ongoing approach is to add in a few healthy carbs (lentils, beetroot, beans) up to one a week - certainly no more often. I think over the long term my body responds well to the change occasionally and I do miss pulses and some veg.

In ingoing chat our goals will vary. Some will be continuing with a stricter approach with a sfecific event approaching or a weight goal in mind; some will be looking for an ongoing and sustainable gentle weight loss; some will be fine with where they are and following this way of eating to avoid the yo-yo of weight gain; and everyone will be appreciating the general support, the reminder to drink all the water, and the fantastic and inspiring recipies and menu ideas.

Whatever you are aiming for, welcome and good luck!

BOOTCAMP RULES
1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but
you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially
enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard
boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these
two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you
start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar
levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical
high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar
levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule
of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of
course!)"
2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages,
ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them,
but just not at every meal, every day.
3. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your
body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do
(a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made
vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise
where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork
belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low
fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!
4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those
vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are
under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to
weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low
carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how
many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red
(best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.
5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try
to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having
several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte
contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the
best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one
that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this
amount of fat.
6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.
This is from
www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:
Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum
consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-2.5
160lbs-3.0
180lbs-3.0
200lbs-3.5
220lbs-3.5
240lbs-4.0
260lbs-4.5
280lbs-4.5
300lbs-5.0
320lbs-5.5
340lbs-5.5
360lbs-6.0
380lbs-6.5
400lbs-6.5
High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore
being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming
enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing
of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels
of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.
However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte
balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low
carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding
salt to food, if you like it.
Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and
asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
7. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts
to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp,
when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning
instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the
best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
8. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will
be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are
also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are
getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that
you need.
9. No nuts/seeds.
Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also
contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.
When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be
careful and go easy.
10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners.
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way
of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some
people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that
your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and
therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and
addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two
weeks.

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venusandmars · 02/08/2025 16:05

Getting ready for the August 4th bootcamp...

Have friends coming for dinner tonight and we're having a starter of home-grown tomatoes, mozzerella and avocado; then beef strogonoff with green veg (and rice for the others); then there's cheese with fruit and nuts, and also key lime pie. I might have atiny spoon of the klp, but maybe not. wine will be consumed

The next couple of weeks will definitely be alcohol free - I know that makes a difference, so I'll appreciate my indulgence tonight.

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BIWI · 02/08/2025 16:32

New Product Alert!

Lower carb wraps

9g carbs per wrap, compared with 32.6g carbs for their original wraps. Could be very useful.

CleanQueen123 · 02/08/2025 17:59

BIWI · 02/08/2025 16:32

New Product Alert!

Lower carb wraps

9g carbs per wrap, compared with 32.6g carbs for their original wraps. Could be very useful.

That's helpful to know. Cheaper than the Srsly Low Carb wraps, although they're very nice.

BIWI · 02/08/2025 18:33

I’ve just bought some, so I’ll feedback how they are, and how they compare with the SRSLY low carb ones. Which are nice, but also expensive!

lastchancesalmon · 02/08/2025 18:50

So this prompted me to look at the low carb wraps we have in the freezer (DD2 eats LCHF all the time) and they have 6g of carbs per wrap! I wouldn’t say they are the tastiest things I’ve tried but the texture is good and they are quite robust for wrapping things.

Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE
Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE
BIWI · 02/08/2025 19:40

The advantage of the Mission ones though, is that they’re much cheaper and they’re available in Sainsbury’s. (Possibly other supermarkets, but I haven’t checked).

lastchancesalmon · 02/08/2025 23:53

BIWI you are right those are much cheaper,
I don’t really look at the price Blush

BIWI · 04/08/2025 09:26

Well I had one of those wraps yesterday, and it was really nice. You really wouldn’t know it was any different from the ‘normal’ ones - unlike the SRSLY Low Carb ones, which do have a slightly different texture and taste. Can recommend, especially given the price!

venusandmars · 04/08/2025 10:41

@BIWI looks like I'll have to take a detour to Sainsbury's to buy those!

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CleanQueen123 · 04/08/2025 18:58

BIWI · 04/08/2025 09:26

Well I had one of those wraps yesterday, and it was really nice. You really wouldn’t know it was any different from the ‘normal’ ones - unlike the SRSLY Low Carb ones, which do have a slightly different texture and taste. Can recommend, especially given the price!

Thanks for the update. I don't mind the Srsly Low Carb wraps. I'm not sure I'm a fan of their bread though. I bought two loaves to try and the one I've tried so far definitely has a different texture and taste.

NotDonna · 28/08/2025 10:41

Hello all! I’m over in the August bootcamp but may I join this one too please? I’m totally loosing my marbles… Im finding lovely keto recipes to try; I purchase the ingredients then forget what the heck the recipes were for 🤯 Yesterday I purchased cream cheese but no clue what I had in mind. Everything I’m finding is a dessert and it will have defo been a main. I’ve also got anchovies for another unknown recipe where they were recommended for a ‘umami’ taste. Kind find that recipe either! Does anyone have any ideas please?

NotDonna · 28/08/2025 12:57

The anchovies were NOT for a puttanesca sauce but if I can’t recall what they were then that’s what they’ll be used for. But cream cheese??? 🤷‍♀️

venusandmars · 28/08/2025 13:15

I put anchovies in lamb dishes (slow cooked stews, sauce for lamb meatballs etc) The salty taste brings out the flavour of the lamb. Or maybe a caponata with veg, capers and pine nuts?

Did you buy the cream cheese to make some kind of fathead bread? There are lots of recipes but I've got one with grated mozzerella, cream cheese, 1 egg, almound flour and baking powder.

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BIWI · 28/08/2025 13:24

… a cheese sauce?

NotDonna · 28/08/2025 23:43

Ah ha!! The anchovies were for a sauce vierge (spelling?) & to go with seared tuna & a green bean and avocado salad all from ‘recipetin eats’. She’s not usually LC friendly as using tons of sugar and honey in everything. I probably forgot as the fishmonger didn’t have tuna. Yes, Biwi I think some type of creamy cheesy dish. I never use cream cheese but I think I’ll do a creamy salmony thing. Will all this cream & cream cheese backfire as I recall dairy can be an issue?

BIWI · 29/08/2025 08:51

There’s only one way to find out @NotDonna!

NotDonna · 29/08/2025 08:52

@BIWI ugh the hard way! Yikes.

BIWI · 29/08/2025 08:54
Grin

@NotDonna it’s one of the reasons why I always advocate keeping a detailed food (and drink) journal. By tracking what you’ve consumed, alongside your weight, it lets you see patterns that might develop.

venusandmars · 29/08/2025 10:45

@NotDonna I find that dairy stalls me if I have a lot of it. So if I have ffgy for breakfast alongside a creamy coffee; then a salad with blue cheese dressing and a salmon and cream cheese pate for lunch; then the fabulous low carb mousakka for dinner... It helps if I plan my menus a bit so I might have a boiled egg or an avocado for breakfast, tuna mayo instead of the salmon pate, a evoo and herb salad dressing..

Some dishes like celeriac dauphinoise with cream and cheese definitely have an impact so I try to go low on dairy for a couple of days if I've got that planned.

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venusandmars · 29/08/2025 10:51

And @NotDonna those two recipes look delicious. They're definitely on the menu for this weeked. Thanks!

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NotDonna · 29/08/2025 11:17

@venusandmars i have both her cookbooks and her salmon tacos are amazing (lettuce not wraps) and the accompanying mango & avocado salsa with Asian slaw. The salsa tent LC friendly with the mango but it’s blooming lovely! plus her Christmas salmon dish! We have it Xmas eve.

NotDonna · 29/08/2025 11:19

*the salsa isn’t LC friendly.

venusandmars · 07/10/2025 23:10

Posting here since there is no current bootcamp...

Any wise people know anything about high cholesterol? @BIWI @prettybird @stuntnun @finallyhere and anyone else...

I just got results of a routine blood test and my total cholesterol and LDL are high. My good HDL is also high (not surprising with all the avocados, olive oil, mackerel etc). I really don't want to take statins, unless I really, really have to, and there is no other option and a definite health risk.

The diet advice from the cholesterol nurse is a 3rd of my plate to be wholewheat 'healthy' carbs - brown rice, wholewheat bread, wholewheat pasta... skin on my potatoes etc, lean meats. Plus 0% fat yogurt, cottage cheese, reduced fat cheese, spreads etc. Porridge and banana for breakfast.

I'd really like to know if there's scientific evience about the balance between this way of eating, and 'perceived wisdom'.

I'm determined to try and get the nurse off my back without having to take statins so I may have to deviate from our bootcamp way of life for a few months. I can reduce butter and cream, and reduce dairy - maybe a more vegan approach to LCHF??

It's ironic because my weight is healthy and stable - achieved and maintained through this approach.

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FinallyHere · 07/10/2025 23:23

Hi @venusandmars

sorry to hear about your results.

I have read the case for it being inflammation rather than diet influencing cholesterol but selfishly as it wasn’t relevant for me, have not retained the info.

someone knowledgable will be along in a minute I’m sure. Hope it goes well for you.