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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE

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venusandmars · 29/06/2025 08:46

A new thread to gather together those who have been on the most recent short bootcamp, those who were on the previous one, and all those who have followed bootcamp over the years.

It's ongoing chat so there's no spreadsheet. But effective low-carb principles remain the same, and I've copied the rules again at the end of this post. Of course, in ongoing chat most people will be following their own version of boot-camp, not the strict rules. So there may be some fruit (berries, rhubarb etc), some nuts, the odd glass of alcohol. Some may be mixing low-carb with intermittent fasting.

My own ongoing approach is to add in a few healthy carbs (lentils, beetroot, beans) up to one a week - certainly no more often. I think over the long term my body responds well to the change occasionally and I do miss pulses and some veg.

In ingoing chat our goals will vary. Some will be continuing with a stricter approach with a sfecific event approaching or a weight goal in mind; some will be looking for an ongoing and sustainable gentle weight loss; some will be fine with where they are and following this way of eating to avoid the yo-yo of weight gain; and everyone will be appreciating the general support, the reminder to drink all the water, and the fantastic and inspiring recipies and menu ideas.

Whatever you are aiming for, welcome and good luck!

BOOTCAMP RULES
1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but
you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially
enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard
boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these
two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you
start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar
levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical
high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar
levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule
of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of
course!)"
2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages,
ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them,
but just not at every meal, every day.
3. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your
body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do
(a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made
vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise
where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork
belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low
fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!
4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those
vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are
under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to
weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low
carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how
many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red
(best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.
5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try
to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having
several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte
contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the
best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one
that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this
amount of fat.
6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.
This is from
www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:
Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum
consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-2.5
160lbs-3.0
180lbs-3.0
200lbs-3.5
220lbs-3.5
240lbs-4.0
260lbs-4.5
280lbs-4.5
300lbs-5.0
320lbs-5.5
340lbs-5.5
360lbs-6.0
380lbs-6.5
400lbs-6.5
High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore
being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming
enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing
of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels
of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.
However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte
balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low
carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding
salt to food, if you like it.
Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and
asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
7. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts
to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp,
when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning
instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the
best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
8. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will
be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are
also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are
getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that
you need.
9. No nuts/seeds.
Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also
contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.
When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be
careful and go easy.
10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners.
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way
of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some
people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that
your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and
therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and
addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two
weeks.

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BIWI · 11/07/2025 14:42

one has to read a thread to know what it contains

Indeed. Except the title of this thread is "Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE"

… which I would have thought was fairly explanatory.

I get that you don’t agree with low carbing. Plenty of us who post on this board, and in the other (general) Low Carb board do.

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 11/07/2025 17:30

It came up in active threads fwiw.

prettybird · 11/07/2025 18:13

The topic that it is in, Low-carb bootcamp , is also a clueWink . As is the OP, which reminds everyone what The Rules are Grin

venusandmars · 11/07/2025 21:29

Here are the first few lines of my first post in this thread:

^A new thread to gather together those who have been on the most recent short bootcamp, those who were on the previous one, and all those who have followed bootcamp over the years.^
^It's ongoing chat so there's no spreadsheet. But effective low-carb principles remain the same, and I've copied the rules again at the end of this post.^

Those who have previously found that lowcarb bootcamp works for them will generally be content with this approach and not particularly interested in an esoteric discussion about calorie deficit.

If people don't find a low carb approach helpful then there are other weight loss topics that might suit them better.

Personally, I don't find this way of eating particularly restrictive. Unless I choose to feel 'restricted' because I don't allow myself to have a danish pastry when out for a coffee, or to have sugary snacks, sweets or drinks.

I find that when I'm following the rules I eat a huge variety of different vegetables, plus a few nut and seeds and some lower-carb fruit. I drink loads of water, herbal teas and a daily coffee. I make naan bread with almond flour rather than wheat flour, I make cheese and almond muffins, low carb grain 'bread'. There are so many fantastic low-carb healthy recipes. With lowered insulin I lose my cravings and I can follow this approach for months. I can't do that with any other diet.

That doesn't make it right for everyone, it just makes it right for me.

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SemmaLina · 11/07/2025 22:40

Oooof it’s hot , at least my water intake is on plan!

OhtobeLoved · 12/07/2025 07:04

I started back on Atkins this week for the first time in years. I'm 6 days in and have lost about 5lbs on the scale. Not sure how much of that is proper loss or water weight, but the scale is heading nicely towards 10.5 stone. I am fairly active and play a bit of sports.
I'm not finding it very restrictive because I'm doing Atkins phase 1 which is only 2 weeks before move to adding a little bit more foods back in so it's easier for me to have a set timescale.
Have to say though, that this is the form of eating that my body definitely responds very well to. Not hungry, no dips in energy /cravings, my gut responds excellent to it (sugar or sugar from carbs makes it gurgle).
Glad to have found this thread, gives a nice boost to know there's others doing the same.
Willpower has been my downfall the past few years. But slowly I've become determined again and hopefully am in the right frame of mind.
Well done to everyone on this journey too. Harder and Harder in the modern world to avoid processed and carb/sugar laden foods.

ChocolateGanache · 12/07/2025 07:53

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 11/07/2025 14:15

Here we go. I'm not wrong. And one has to read a thread to know what it contains. You just don't like what you're advocating being queried.

Imagine coming onto a thread where people have been gathering for ages, to support each other in doing something they find works for them and trying to argue it doesn’t.

Literally. No one is interested.

venusandmars · 12/07/2025 08:28

@OhtobeLoved I don't know enough about the Atkins diet to know how it differs from the low-carb approach here. It used to have a bad reputation for too much red meat and processed meat and hardly any veg, but I've just looked at some updated stuff that has lots of veg like asparagus, spinach, broccoli etc. I think the commercial side of Atkins also produced lots of meal replacements, Atkins snack bars etc. (but then so do all commercial diets, including Mosley's fast 800 / blood sugar diet).

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BIWI · 12/07/2025 13:06

The Atkins has/had a seriously bad reputation, mainly because people:

a) never read the book (properly)
b) never followed it properly
c) it was dismissed as unhealthy, mainly by the media, by people who started to follow the diet for a couple of days and then concluded that ‘carb flu’ (which we know to be a temporary phenomenon) was the Atkins diet making people feel ill - the implication being that this would be a permanent rather than transitory thing

The induction phase, where you restrict carbs to only 20g per day, does mean that the focus has to be low/carb zero foods, therefore most likely to be meat/fish/egg. But if you read the book properly, there is much about including veg/salad, just an emphasis on those which are the lowest in carbs.

And importantly, the induction phase lasts for only two weeks, before you are allowed to add more carbs.

It’s a really interesting approach, and I recommend anyone following Bootcamp/a low carb diet, to read the book. One of the reasons it’s hard to do properly is that you have to be forensic about counting the carbs you’re consuming. As an example, after you’ve finished the induction phase, you increase your daily carbs by 5g per day. Which isn’t a lot. The idea being that while you continue to lose weight, you are also pushing your carbs up to the point at which weight loss plateaus - so you know what your daily limit is. But you can only do that if you weigh/measure everything.

Back in 2010 a new version was released, which was written by Drs Phinny and Volek, who were the authors of The Art and Science of Low Carb Living, and The Art and Science of Low Carb Performance, with an emphasis on making it simpler to follow:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Atkins-You-Ultimate-Shedding/dp/0091935571/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1DLNYA00LRHXC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.x8eLmpYSFIYueOz_1Jg3ag.OrVAwVftKBEjzGQWxp2bIdUD1_2SJC0E3WLDgRiHKOQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=phinny+volek+atkins&qid=1752321888&sprefix=phinny+volek+atkins%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-1

venusandmars · 12/07/2025 22:29

@BIWI that's all interesting, thanks.

I know my weight can vary by a lot day by day. So I can't see how the meticulous 'increasing carbs by 5mg per day' woud really work...

On this woe, I keep an eye on portion size, I keep an eye on dairy. But in a loose way, not in a weighing and measuring way. I'm a daily weigher, but try not to sweat it if there's an upsurge for 1/2/3 days. I try to look over a week. If week on week I'm gaining then I'm doing something wrong, and adjust. But I can't adjust on a daily basis.

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YourFairCyanReader · 13/07/2025 09:52

The biggest thing for me is that knocking carbs right down (and stopping UPFs at the same time) has killed my cravings. It's so easy to live like this because I'm not denying myself anything, I just don't want it. I'm not going hungry, I'm enjoying really varied and delicious food, looking forward to meals. I'm just no longer desperate for chocolate after a meal or buttered toast in the evenings.
Steady away 1lb a week still since the June bootcamp

prettybird · 13/07/2025 10:09

Lovely low-carb supper for me. Had a braai (bbq) only the second of the year Hmm which is great for low carbing Smile

Home made tzatziki, home made pork burgers (secret ingredient: lots of Worcestershire sauce Wink ), home made coleslaw and a tomato, mozzarella and basil salad (dh had his burgers in morning rolls).

Tonight we’re having another braai and we’ll be having boerewors and lamb kebabs (plus more tzatziki and coleslaw etc).

Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE
venusandmars · 13/07/2025 10:09

I'm down 2 pounds this week - must be the heat and the consequent loss of appetite. Plus lots of iced water. I'm really pleased about that, beause I'm visiting my sister this week and I always feel judged by her for my weight.

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BIWI · 13/07/2025 15:39

venusandmars · 12/07/2025 22:29

@BIWI that's all interesting, thanks.

I know my weight can vary by a lot day by day. So I can't see how the meticulous 'increasing carbs by 5mg per day' woud really work...

On this woe, I keep an eye on portion size, I keep an eye on dairy. But in a loose way, not in a weighing and measuring way. I'm a daily weigher, but try not to sweat it if there's an upsurge for 1/2/3 days. I try to look over a week. If week on week I'm gaining then I'm doing something wrong, and adjust. But I can't adjust on a daily basis.

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong - as I think you’re right. Possibly it’s about increasing by 5g for a longer period of time, before you increase. So let’s say that weeks 1 & 2 are 20g per day, week 3 is 25g per day, week 4 is 30g per day etc.

Bex5490 · 13/07/2025 17:57

Been plugging away keeping to bootcamp rules and down to 10 st 8 lb (3lb) off my target weight! Pretty delighted…

@venusandmars I’m going on holiday with my Sis in Law in four weeks who is like a sister to me except for the fact that she was blessed with a size 8 waist - so I sort of know how you feel!

lastchancesalmon · 14/07/2025 23:57

Campers my scales has died… it’s been on its last legs for a while, but I now have to face facts: it’s pretty much a rusted heap of junk and I need a new one. Any recommendations? I also have to face that I’m using its loss as an excuse to pretend I’m not bootcamping right now, so I need to take control, fast!
(Before this happened I had lost 3lb in June, which took me to a 12lb total and created a buffer for holidays so a good outcome. I’d like to take another run at things but I really need the daily weigh to keep me on track.) TIA

OhtobeLoved · 15/07/2025 19:05

BIWI · 13/07/2025 15:39

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong - as I think you’re right. Possibly it’s about increasing by 5g for a longer period of time, before you increase. So let’s say that weeks 1 & 2 are 20g per day, week 3 is 25g per day, week 4 is 30g per day etc.

Yes that's it. I'm on up to 22g per day for first 2 weeks,I'm probably using 15-20 most days, then you add in 5g a day each week and should find your sweet spot over time.
I have to say I'm also not missing sweets or bread etc. At all at the moment. Had a little pang today but reminded myself this is short term

Bex5490 · 15/07/2025 20:32

lastchancesalmon · 14/07/2025 23:57

Campers my scales has died… it’s been on its last legs for a while, but I now have to face facts: it’s pretty much a rusted heap of junk and I need a new one. Any recommendations? I also have to face that I’m using its loss as an excuse to pretend I’m not bootcamping right now, so I need to take control, fast!
(Before this happened I had lost 3lb in June, which took me to a 12lb total and created a buffer for holidays so a good outcome. I’d like to take another run at things but I really need the daily weigh to keep me on track.) TIA

I’ve been using this for about 5 years and they’ve been pretty consistent. It also links to an app on your phone that apparently tracks your body fat percentage. I’m unsure of how accurate it is but it’s somewhat motivating to see it going down alongside the weight…

Well done on the 3lb weight loss! Hopefully a new gadget will ignite the energy for a little bootcamp!

Low-carb Bootcamps - ongoing chat thread for EVERYONE
lastchancesalmon · 15/07/2025 21:02

Thanks @Bex5490 I’ll take a look. There are so many it’s good to get a recommendation.

prettybird · 16/07/2025 09:37

Down to 12st 1.5lb. Smile

Means I’ll only be just over half a stone more than I was back in March, when I go for my next cut ‘n’ colour on Saturday. I’d have liked to have got back under 12st by then but I doubt I’ll achieve that Blush

In good news, the house money has finally come through from my father’s estate, so I can now think about booking our holiday to South Africa in September/October. Another incentive to keep focussed Grin

CleanQueen123 · 16/07/2025 13:55

No loss for me this week. Hopefully not going to get stuck again after a downward trajectory.

venusandmars · 16/07/2025 20:02

@CleanQueen123 for me, things have been going in fits and starts. A longish stall or very tiny losses for ages, but currently on a very nice downward trajectory. I think my body sometmes needs to consolidate the loss. I'm feeling pretty happy with where I am at the moment - about 7 lbs more than I weighed before I was pregnant with my first dc 38 years ago. A very different shape unfortunately, some things never recover!

@prettybird these things take such a long time, don't they? Make the most of that fantastic holiday and all the happy memories and stories that it will rekindle.

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CleanQueen123 · 17/07/2025 21:34

I've got 10lbs to lose to reach my goal weight and it seems impossible sometimes.

On a lighter note, I tried the viral pickle "sandwich" for dinner tonight. The cheese totally stuck to the tray so it wasn't very sandwich like but the flavour was there. Definitely a treat though because the sliced pickles I've got are higher carb than I'd like.

ChocolateGanache · 18/07/2025 10:49

Down 4lbs this week.
I’m happy with that as had been stalling for ages 🙂

YourFairCyanReader · 20/07/2025 15:18

Down another couple of pounds this week. Not drinking any alcohol is definitely helping.
However, I still have stubborn tummy fat which appeared in my early 40s and just won't go. Annoying!!