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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

January 2024 Low Carb Bootcamp - this one's a dry one!

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BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 23/12/2023 14:44

For one month only - 4 weeks of strict Bootcamp, which means no booze.

If you want to, you can do Bootcamp Light, but with the exception of no alcohol.

All welcome! But please, only sign up if you are prepared to do the whole thing without alcohol.

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poorbuthappy · 03/01/2024 09:11

I think I've got the carb flu this morning.
Got up feeling dreadful.
I bounced out of bed yesterday morning at 5.30 so am very annoyed today 😂

Will up my sodium and water today.

Just had poached eggs. 1 was hard and 1 was runny even though they were cooked in the same way in the microwave in 1 of those cups things from B&M. Why aren't they consistent??? Bloody eggs

LowCarbingIn2024 · 03/01/2024 10:03

Good morning all. Happy to be joining you all although a bit late. I've logged on the spreadsheet, and also on my own together with measurements. Will take some photos of shame later, which will hopefully start to show improvements.

Need to remember my weigh-day is Sunday (don't have time on a Monday morning), so this will only be a half-week for me this week. Scales were shocking and disappointing. I haven't weighed since early October, and have put on just over a stone since then, so my initial goal is to get back to there.

Did have alcohol yesterday, but from the early end... Was celebrating New Year with friends and family, and sat up late chatting with a glass in hand. So today will be my first proper dry day.

Was doing a lot of driving yesterday. Had cottage cheese for lunch and a delicious Greek salad for dinner. Around 2l of water, which isn't enough, so working on increasing liquid intake today.
I have exercise class this evening and another tomorrow.

A long road to travel, but I feel I'm in the right head space to move forward.

Good luck to everyone today.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 10:10

@CrawlingFromShitshowToAfterglow you're on the spreadsheet!

Why did you give up last time? Is that something you can overcome this time?

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TeaRose29 · 03/01/2024 10:57

Yesterday afternoon I suddenly became very grumpy - probably the carb-loving bugs in my gut screaming “feed me!”. It probably didn’t help that I ended up playing tennis for 3 hours, as I filled in for a no-show as well as playing in my own match, and probably hadn’t eaten enough. It takes a while for your body to adapt to running on fat, rather than carbs, as well.

Anyway, feel a bit better for a good night’s sleep, and very pleased to weigh in at 9.13 1/2 this morning, so another 1/4 pound off. I was under 10 stone for most of last year, including when we got back from a 2 week cruise, so was very annoyed to be back in the 10s.

@venusandmars I have been drinking Sentia (on occasion) for a few months, and I quite like it. I haven’t really noticed the promised “buzz”, but that might be more obvious during an AF period. It is eye-wateringly expensive, though! @BIWI and @NotDonna , I’ve also tried lots of AF drinks, and as you say, it’s really hard to find low-carb versions. I quite like Nozecco, but it’s absolutely loaded with sugar, and generally speaking I hate sweet drinks, and also things with sweeteners. I’ve come to the conclusion that the best (and cheapest!) thing for me is just sparkling water with ice and a slice of lime, plus the occasional slimline tonic, and I might have a diet coke in desperation when out!

@Baystard (or anyone else) - do you have a good recipe for cheese sauce?

@Metabolicallycomplicated welcome, and I hope the diet (and the group!) helps you. I usually stick to a LC/Keto diet and I have read a lot about how this helps PCOS etc.

Thanks everyone for the recipes - I’m going to try both @AIBConsiderate ‘s burgers and @NotDonna ’s sloppy joes. At least we have the luxury of butter, cream and cheese on this diet! Last night I did stewing steak in my Instant Pot and it was to die for!

PurpleWhirple · 03/01/2024 11:02

Just wanted to share a link I saw on another thread. Thought it was a good summary and reminder of what we're trying to do here.

I may follow her links to the advice on building a healthy high fat salad. My lunch today will be a big chopped salad with cheeseburger pie, which probably isn't the healthy fats recommended but still better than a cheese toastie

I find it easier to avoid alcohol than to go with alternatives, they are just fundamentally unsatisfying in my experience.

Metabolicallycomplicated · 03/01/2024 11:47

blackteaplease · 03/01/2024 08:42

@Metabolicallycomplicated do you have a recipe for the kebabs please? They sound lush

I literally just cut chicken and halloumi up into cubes, then use a teaspoon of mint sauce (the super super cheap ones from the supermarket are less than 10g carb per 100g) mixed with greek yoghurt, some chopped up chilli and some lemon juice. I stick it all in a plastic bag together with a good glug of olive oil and leave it in the fridge while im at work. When I get home, I skewer it if I can be bothered but if not, just oil the griddle pan and chuck it on until it's nice and browned off.

The salad is fresh dill, fresh parsley and fresh mint plus lettuce chopped very fine. I then also chop a cucumber (deseeded) really small and tomatoes chooped to the same size and spring onion. I also throw in pickled beetroot cut small but only one and it makes 2 portions for me. That salad goes in a big bowl and I give it a glug of olive oil, salt and lemon juice, then chuck it about to get it well mixed. I'd describe it as like a turkish taboule without the bulgarwheat.

I serve it with a dollop of greek yohurt usually :)

venusandmars · 03/01/2024 11:50

@NotDonna fermented foods are good for gut biome - kimchi etc.

@TeaRose29 easiest cheese sauces ever: 300ml pot of double cream, heated gently in a pan, melt in as much grated cheese as it will take, tsp whole grain mustard, squeeze of lemon juice (lemon really makes the difference). Pour over cauliflower or other veg and bake in oven. Delicious. That sauce on mousakka is amazing, and very rich!

Or full fat cottage cheese, mixed with 2 beaten eggs, and half a packet of grated parmesan. It's a wetter mixture but baked on top of a veg/ratatouille mix it is sort of like a solid cheesy custard.

I'm getting back on top of my water drinking routine (posting here for accountability). A glass as soon as I wake, followed by by big mug of rooibos tea, then another glass to sip through the morning till coffee time. Another glass before lunch and one with lunch. One during the afternoon and another just before dinner. A mug of herbal tea, then water to sip during the early evening. I include the one coffee and the 2 'teas' in my liquid intake and try to consume all my liquid before 8pm so I'm not up all night!

blackteaplease · 03/01/2024 11:53

@TeaRose29 for a cheese sauce substitute try bringing double cream to the boil, add cheese of choice plus nutmeg and salt &pepper then allow it to cool and thicken. More of a gratin but it's amazing with cauliflower or thinly sliced celeriac.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 11:57

@PurpleWhirple

My lunch today will be a big chopped salad with cheeseburger pie, which probably isn't the healthy fats recommended but still better than a cheese toastie

What do you mean by this? Why do you think this isn't healthy fat?

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Metabolicallycomplicated · 03/01/2024 12:02

blackteaplease · 03/01/2024 11:53

@TeaRose29 for a cheese sauce substitute try bringing double cream to the boil, add cheese of choice plus nutmeg and salt &pepper then allow it to cool and thicken. More of a gratin but it's amazing with cauliflower or thinly sliced celeriac.

This is exactly what i do, but if you need to to be wetter you can add cream cheese and a bit of full fat milk too :)

Metabolicallycomplicated · 03/01/2024 12:03

I started a thread in chat about my experience with NHS weight loss advice and phooooooowheeeeeeee there's a lot of bollocks flying my way Grin

AIBConsiderate · 03/01/2024 12:18

Quick q when looking at the nutritional content on packaging. Is it the total carbs or the of which sugars one? I'm not counting, but just trying to learn about what is considered high and low. Thanks!

PurpleWhirple · 03/01/2024 12:26

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 11:57

@PurpleWhirple

My lunch today will be a big chopped salad with cheeseburger pie, which probably isn't the healthy fats recommended but still better than a cheese toastie

What do you mean by this? Why do you think this isn't healthy fat?

I suppose I was just thinking that it's lots of saturated fat, as opposed to the healthier unsaturated fat that you'd get in oily fish for example

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 12:29

@PurpleWhirple you need to read more about low carbing and fat! Have a read of this piece from Zoe Harcombe (for example).

Saturated fat – an end to the myth? – Zoë Harcombe

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2022/11/saturated-fat-an-end-to-the-myth/

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BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 12:31

@AIBConsiderate it's the total carbs that you need to take account of.

Oh, and if you're looking at anything from the US, beware that they talk about 'net carbs' - as they include fibre in their carb counts.

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AIBConsiderate · 03/01/2024 12:32

I've figured it out. I was thinking of the American system where they count fibre with the carbs. Total carbs it is!

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 12:32

@Metabolicallycomplicated that was brave/foolish of you!

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AIBConsiderate · 03/01/2024 12:34

@BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas jinx! Thanks for confirming. Having to do a panic out and about lunch, settled for some soup, some chicken bits and some olives.

PurpleWhirple · 03/01/2024 13:06

Thanks @BIWI I will have a read this evening

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 03/01/2024 13:08

It's tough, I know - as we've really been brainwashed over the last 40 years or so to believe that fat is bad for us. And more recently that the real problem is saturated fat. Whereas it simply isn't the case. (Apart from transfats, which really are to be avoided)

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BIWI · 03/01/2024 13:15

Actually, the issue of saturated fat is such a key one for us all to understand, I'm c+p Nina Teicholz's blog post here:

Where does the data now stand on saturated fats?
Since 2014 when my book was published, the data exonerating saturated fats has grown even stronger. There are now more than 17 systematic reviews and meta-analyses of scientific studies looking at the relationship between saturated fats and heart disease. These studies include randomized, controlled clinical trials on more than 50,000 people, which is an enormous amount of the most rigorous kind of data available.

Nearly all of the analyses reviewing this data have concluded that:

  • Saturated fats have no effect on cardiovascular mortality and/or
  • Saturated fats are not associated with heart disease.
  • Don’t these studies conflict with our official nutritional advice?
They do. To understand why, one needs to know the history of why we believe these fats are bad for health.

Beginning in the 1950s, University of Minnesota pathologist Ancel Keys, launched the so-called “diet heart” hypothesis, which states that saturated fats and dietary cholesterol cause heart disease. Largely due to his outsized personality, Keys was able to get this idea implanted in the American Heart Association, which in 1961, became the first group in the world to recommend that the public cut back on saturated fat and cholesterol to prevent cardiovascular disease.

In subsequent decades, Governments and public health groups around the world spent billions of dollars on clinical trials (the “gold standard” of scientific evidence) trying to ‘prove’ this hypothesis, but all of these trials had “null” results—which is to say, they could not show that Keys was correct. In some cases, trials showed that reducing consumption of saturated fat and cholesterol (and replacing them wiht polyunsaturated vegetable oils) actually caused harm, including increased death rates from cancer and suicides.
Rather than respond to this ‘inconvenient’ data, however, scientists instead persevered in their belief that saturated fats must somehow be bad for health. These scientists, together with their funders at the National Institutes of Health, the American Heart Association, and elsewhere, ignored or even buried inconvenient data for decades. My book tells this story.

The story is largely one of politics: the influence of the food industry, the inability of large public health institutions, including our own federal government, to back out of a failed hypothesis, and the reality of nutrition experts who are unable or unwilling to change their minds, despite an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary.

Recently, however, there has been change. Beginning in 2010 with the work of Ron Krauss, scientists around the world have begun to unearth and reexamine the long-ignored literature on saturated fats, resulting in the 17 meta-analyses and reviews listed above.

Note that in response to this evidence, the Canadian Heart and Stroke Association in 2015 dropped its previous % limits on saturated fats.

Saturated fats: do they cause heart disease? — The Nutrition Coalition

https://www.nutritioncoalition.us/saturated-fats-do-they-cause-heart-disease

Pleaseandthankyou · 03/01/2024 13:53

Thanks @mimosa1

Prinnny · 03/01/2024 13:55

Love reading everyone’s meals for inspo!

Yesterday I had Tuna Mayo for lunch and Salmon with creamed spinach for tea. Today was chicken thighs and halloumi fried in garlic butter for lunch and I’ve made a spag Bol with the konjac noodles for tea. I keep under 20g carbs per day and also IF.

Ive ordered some keto wraps and bread from skinny foods so looking forward to implementing them when they arrive!

Thesoundofmusic23 · 03/01/2024 14:32

Finally started this morning so I’m a little behind the rest of you. Fried mushrooms with poached eggs and avocado for break and smoked salmon and salad with olives for lunch. Planning a bolognaise with a big pile of spinach instead of pasta for dinner. Lots of water and herbal tea. So far so good. Getting lots of food idea from others so please keep sharing. 😋

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