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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Jan 2023 Low Carb Bootcamp - Week 1!

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BIWI · 08/01/2023 22:20

Welcome everyone! We have over 160 people signed up this time, so things are going to move quickly.

Here's the link to The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which has been carefully and lovingly curated by the very lovely @FinallyHere

There are a few bits of admin that I need to post before we get going. The first of which is the usual disclaimer:

I am not a medic, a scientist, a dietician or a nutritionist. Everything that I post here is based on my reading and my own experiences of low carbing gained over the last 20 years. You follow the guidance here at your own risk - although I very much hope that there are no risks!

Very importantly, though, if you are on any kind of long-term medication, please talk to your GP/nurse about low carbing. This is especially important if you're on drugs for hypertension, cholesterol and/or diabetes, as a low carb diet should have a positive impact on all of those conditions, which would mean that your dosage may need to be decreased, if not removed altogether.

The second is about etiquette:

Please, please, please read all the posts on the thread before you make your own post. These threads work so much better when we're all here interacting with each other, as that means we can offer help and support when it's needed. Don't just jump on the thread to plop down your meals for the day, your weight that day and then just fuck off. That doesn't help anyone.

More than anything else, it's incredibly irritating when someone posts a question which has already been answered early in the thread. I, and lots of other Bootcampers, spend a considerable amount of time responding to people's questions and concerns, and it's pretty insulting when it's obvious that these haven't been read.

(Oh, and it's very obvious if you haven't read the thread, so take that as a warning Wink)

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NotDonna · 11/01/2023 11:10

@JustAPony move the sweet stuff to someone else’s desk! You don’t need to be looking at that all day.
@BountyMultipack I add proper fresh mint from the garden to hot water. I also put onions in recipes if they call for it but in hindsight shallots/leeks would be better.

BIWI · 11/01/2023 11:12

Incoming long post! With apologies if I'm repeating anyone else, but it's easier just to work through each post separately:

@BountyMultipack yes you can - and should! - add garlic and ginger to your curry. Also, you can use shallots in place of onion, as they're much lower in carbs (3.3g per 100g, compared with 7.9g for onions). But use the echalion (or banana) shallots, as they're bigger and much easier to peel. As @Jollyholibobs says, though, if you don't have shallots then I'd still use onion - it's a pretty vital component in most curries. Most dishes I cook, actually!

Fresh mint (and any other fresh herb) is totally fine.

@Lalalalalaaaa a 150g pot of Total 5% is 4.5g carbs, so don't worry about that! It's fine. Not being as full also indicates that adding more fat (like cream/clotted cream) would be helpful, if you can't find a 10% fat yoghurt.

@DontGetEvenGetEverything I'm sorry you're sad - that must be really hard too Sad. But don't let emotions fool you into eating the wrong thing. How would adding an artificial chemical into your food really help? (I know that's a very rational response to a very emotional situation!). We are aiming, in this short period of time, to break the hold that sweet things have over us generally - but also to identify occasions when we're at danger of giving into sweet cravings.

Don't get me wrong - I really understand how much our emotions control what we put in our mouth. If dieting was black and white and just a rational thing, none of would be overweight.

You've identified a trigger, so now you need a strategy for coping with it in the future.

(One crumb of reassurance I can offer you, is that your tastebuds will change - you'll wonder why you thought yoghurt needed to be sweetened!)

@Jenasaurus alcohol will be allowed after the first couple of weeks, so yes! How long are you going for? If it's just for one night, then I wouldn't worry too much about it, but if it's for a long weekend, or a week, then you will need to be careful about how much booze you're drinking. Things to avoid, for sure, are beer, lager, cider and cocktails. Stick to dry wine and/or clear spirits with a low calorie mixer. And try and moderate it as much as you can.

@Nugg I share your concern, having read that menu! Unfortunately it's always a risk that you take when eating out, and all you can do is to navigate as much as you can. Keep your carbs as low as possible for the rest of the day/the next day and - perhaps most importantly - just enjoy the occasion for what it is.

@JustAPony every time you look at those chocolates, just think about that 5lb loss! The only thing you can guarantee if you give in is that you'll wipe that loss out.

@BountyMultipack You're worrying about 0.4kg?! Honestly, your body's natural daily fluctuations could account for that. If you are going to get upset this way, then please don't weigh daily. It will only undermine your motivation. @NotDonna has it absolutely right - celebrate your achievement! And @StuntNun's graph is a very good way of seeing how we can expect weight loss to pan out.

@NotDonna what time do you want to come round? Wink

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Nugg · 11/01/2023 11:15

I can't think of anything beyond how soon can I get hold of some barenaked noodles now I have seen BIWI's dinner last night! what a revelation they sound!

NotDonna · 11/01/2023 11:20

@Nugg i get the bare naked noodles (and rice - which are just incredible short noodles) from Tesco.

Nugg · 11/01/2023 11:20

Brilliant - I pass there shortly, might have to run in! Thank you!

Skiphopbump · 11/01/2023 11:22

I made a mistake and bought Eat water slim noodles thinking they were the same as barenaked but they are much more carby.

StuntNun · 11/01/2023 11:27

I can't eat the Barenaked noodles or anything high fibre like flaxseed or coconut flour based low carb bread alternatives. They leave me really bloated and uncomfortable the next day. I have extra veggies instead in a stir fry, or cauliflower rice with curry.

NotDonna · 11/01/2023 11:31

These are them @Nugg

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Nugg · 11/01/2023 11:33

@NotDonna brilliant thank you are they in with usual noodles or the free from section?!

FairlyOddmother · 11/01/2023 12:18

Hi all, I'm enjoying this thread, lots of lovely meal and snack ideas.
Yesterday went well ( I think) - but I am SO HUNGRY. I know this isn't usual and I'm worried I'm doing something wrong...

B: eggs and mushroom cooked in butter. 2 cups of tea with splash of milk.
L: Nandos - chicken breast with green salad (dressed with olive oil and salt) and broccoli
S: 2 handfuls of olives and couple of spoons of FF cottage cheese
D: broccoli and stilton soup (2 bowls!), sliced tomato with crumbled feta and 3 slices of Serrano ham
W: 3 litres

I've had bacon, egg and mushroom for breakfast today and was hungry again an hour later... I think there must be something wrong with me 😬
Planning more soup plus some ham and cheese for lunch; sausages, sprouts and cheesy courgette for dinner.
Should I be snacking more? It feels wrong!

BIWI · 11/01/2023 12:22

@Nugg in my Sainsbury's they're with the mainstream Chinese foods, so where the stir-fry noodles are. However, they did used to stock them with ordinary pasta, so you may need to look out for them!

If you have an Asian supermarket anywhere near you, you can buy them there - they're shirataki noodles, which are made from the konjac yam, and are a Japanese speciality. In some places I've also found them made into a wider noodle, a bit like fettucine, but that's pretty rare.

They are very high in fibre, which is why some people (like StuntNun) can suffer from digestive discomfort after eating them - I haven't found that problem, thankfully!

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BIWI · 11/01/2023 12:26

@FairlyOddmother don't worry - the hunger will subside.

I do think, sometimes, that it's the thinking about food that makes us think we're hungry!

I'd also be looking to up your protein, and make sure you're getting enough fat - it could be that your soup is ending up being more carby than you think, and won't be giving you sufficient protein.

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Baystard · 11/01/2023 13:34

@earlyraisin for most of my life o needed low fat milk on tea or coffee (quite alot of it) but when I started intermittent fasting a few years I started trying to ''clean fast" to get the full benefits. This meant no milk or sweet tasting things whilst fasting. I learnt then to enjoy black coffee and that's been a huge help to me in bootcamp. Black coffee is also lovely served over ice when it's warm.

I still enjoy a creamy coffee from time to time but treat it as a separate thing. Today i had black coffee until noon then broke my fast with a very (very!) creamy coffee (double cream) instead of a normal lunch. I'll have extra veg at dinner to make up for less at lunchtime.

Normally I allow myself one or max two cups of tea with milk after lunch but I'd been saving up for today's coffee treat so didn't have any milk or cream for the last 2 days. I'm now near my goal weight but it was worth it in terms of having a real treat to look forward to! It probably sounds very unexciting but it represents the polar opposite of the mindless eating that made me put on, and maintain, a huge amount of excess weight, so it feels really good.

Baystard · 11/01/2023 13:40

@SpottyBumPony it's so difficult when it's grey and wet and miserable isn't it. Roll on good weather!

What a great start @BountyMultipack, well done!

earlyraisin · 11/01/2023 13:52

That's brilliant advice @Baystard thank you. It's about resetting my mind to another way of thinking. My mum and nan used to drink huge amounts of brown beverages also, so it's deeply ingrained with me, and association with comfort. But it's holding my weight loss back. I need this change!

I'm using these 2 weeks to reframe. Black coffee over ice, eh? I'm going to try that.

QforCucumber · 11/01/2023 13:57

Todays off to a much better start thanks to the babybel stash!

spotted these in Lidl today - does anyone know if they smell horrific? Am in an open office so don’t want to purchase if everyone will hate me!

Jan 2023 Low Carb Bootcamp - Week 1!
Jenasaurus · 11/01/2023 14:15

As I have been on LC since July, apart from one large loss of 9 pounds the second week I have now settled to losing 1-2 pounds a week, sometimes slightly less than a pound, with this strict bootcamp is it possible for me to lose more than that in the first 2 weeks or is that the inital water loss which I had at the start, these are the amounts I lost each week

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UnfinishedBusiness · 11/01/2023 14:25

Happy birthday @LadyBiker hope you can resist carbohydrate temptation!

@Skiphopbump the eat water slim noodles are zero carb, so lower than the bare naked (though those they have virtually none too).

@BountyMultipack shallots are a lot easier to peel if you soak them in a bowl of boiled water for a few minutes first.

Didnt get the chance to read and keep up yesterday, sorry. Well done everyone. Some great meal ideas in here.

Yesterday I had left over chicken for breakfast, prawn salad for lunch, and oven roasted med veg, asparagus, sea bass and pan fried samphire for dinner.

Just had a coffee with cream for breakfast today as late and hectic, made a broccoli and Stilton soup for lunch as DP working from home today (usually I can’t be arsed to faff around cooking more than scrambled eggs at lunchtime just for me), and tonight is creamy sausage, spinach and mushroom florentine. The website says use it as a sauce, but I just love a big bowl of it with a side of cabbage or green beans. sweetcsdesigns.com/creamy-sausage-florentine-mushrooms/

I really should make soup far more often. I love it, its filling, it’s a great way to get in some extra fluids, and it’s dead easy to make. I really don’t know why I don’t think of it more often!

UnfinishedBusiness · 11/01/2023 14:27

Jenasaurus · 11/01/2023 14:15

As I have been on LC since July, apart from one large loss of 9 pounds the second week I have now settled to losing 1-2 pounds a week, sometimes slightly less than a pound, with this strict bootcamp is it possible for me to lose more than that in the first 2 weeks or is that the inital water loss which I had at the start, these are the amounts I lost each week

Wow, well done. Great that you have kept weight loss that so consistent. If I was to post a weight chart it would look like a mountain range, probably with more peaks than valleys😳

OldandTired66 · 11/01/2023 14:48

Does anyone have any advice for snack to take on a bike ride? I usually take a banana but tried a few almonds instead this morning, (I know, no nuts rule but needed to be portable). But I really lacked energy on the way back home and missed the boost I get from my banana. Otherwise, all going well and looking forward to cheesy soup and side dish of chicken for lunch. When I've thawed out!

Skiphopbump · 11/01/2023 14:51

That’s what I thought @UnfinishedBusiness but then read the nutritional value

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Baystard · 11/01/2023 14:52

@earlyraisin Good idea about starting with it iced. I think there's a sort of chocolatey quality to iced black coffee, maybe even coca cola tones (but a more sophisticated taste). Very different to having it hot.

BIWI · 11/01/2023 14:58

@Jenasaurus if you've been strictly low carbing over recent weeks, then I'd say your current rate of loss is most likely to continue. However, if you've been a bit lax over Christmas, it's possible you might see a bigger loss from a strict couple of weeks.

However, you don't have much to lose, so I don't think you can expect to see a huge drop.

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UnfinishedBusiness · 11/01/2023 15:02

@Skiphopbump which ones are they for? The Thai noodles we have here list 0 carbs. They better not have messed about with the ingredients😔😡 My DP really likes them (I personally think all konjac noodles are boak🤢🤣).

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Rayna37 · 11/01/2023 15:03

OldandTired66 · 11/01/2023 14:48

Does anyone have any advice for snack to take on a bike ride? I usually take a banana but tried a few almonds instead this morning, (I know, no nuts rule but needed to be portable). But I really lacked energy on the way back home and missed the boost I get from my banana. Otherwise, all going well and looking forward to cheesy soup and side dish of chicken for lunch. When I've thawed out!

Do you normally need a snack? Hopefully if you fat adapt you may go longer without. Until then cheese maybe? Babybel is good don't take the plastic off to save time and put it in your pocket, DH learned the hard way so we don't need to!

Depends if you're talking 20 or 60 miles really, if it's long enough to need fuel I'd generally be having a coffee stop, especially at this time of year!