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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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ToastCosILoveIt · 19/01/2021 15:09

Checking in to keep myself accountable Grin. I am doing 16:8 (more like 18:6) so breakfast and then an early dinner.

Food today is:
B: a smoked mackeral fillet, coleslaw, rocket, tomato, cucumber and red onion.
D: chilli mince (20% fat) with some roasted cauliflower, courgette and onion and a spoon of ff Greek yogurt.
Snacks: two decaf coffees with cream
2.5l of water.

Like everyone I went off piste at Christmas, got back onto BC on 2 Jan and then had a bit of a health upset so veered off again but back on since yesterday. I have 5/6lbs of Christmas weight to lose and then another half a stone to get to target ie comfortably between 9.5 and 10 stones. Being reasonably close to target and being perimenopausal, I too have noticed that weightloss is frustratingly slow. I am hoping to get back to my pre-Christmas weight in the next 2 weeks, 3 at most, and then will tackle that last half a stone and look at how to find a lifestyle where I can maintain.

I struggle with eating smoked mackeral (tastes too oily, i just eat it for my health) so will make the remaining mackeral fillet into a pate which I will have with salad for breakfast tomorrow.

On the flip side, I really enjoy cold food and prepare a job lot of roasted vegetables to add to breakfast or dinner without too much prep.

pinkpinkeverywhere · 19/01/2021 15:16

Thank you @Bestbees sounds delicious

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 19/01/2021 15:54

I think I'm doing okay today. B - scrambled eggs (made with the leftover cream), garlic mushrooms and spinach cooked in butter.
L - Tesco rollitos.
D - will be belly of pork and veg.
I've been drinking back coffee with a sprinkle of mixed spice (it tastes like Christmas) and teapigs chai tea.

I bought some zero carb, zero alcohol 'gin' for when I get desperate and DH is having a drink!

Bestbees · 19/01/2021 15:55

You're welcome.

@BIWI I am happy to track calories eventually but trying to avoid it. I have done fast 800 before but I just get too hungry! Would 1500 be a sensible amount? Thinking cut down cream and see how the week goes from there.

@ninkanink yes will focus on health benefits. Definitely feel less sluggish, bowels better and more energy. Not bothered at all by the biscuits in the staff room Halo

BIWI · 19/01/2021 15:57

@Bestbees - don't start calorie counting yet! Just beware it may be something that will come into play.

Cutting down/out on cream will help in that regard anyway, without having to count or weigh.

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Bumbledee · 19/01/2021 16:08

Checking in today and loving all the new recipes I can try. @Bestbees that looks delicious, although I am slightly allergic to aubergines, I love them!

After my dodgy scales episode yesterday, I finally managed to weigh myself today at 60.7 kgs. (9.6 stones I think) Since I am only 5 feet I need to lose 10 kgs (nearly 2 stone?) to reach close enough to ideal weight! That looks like a daunting amount of weight! Shock

After that very sobering thought here's what I had today:
B: Salami a slice of buttered seriously low carb bread
L: Leftovers - chicken and saag paneer with salad leaves with a yoghurt dressing
D: Still haven't cooked it but planning to try the Thai larb Gai recipe with lettuce
S: 3 olives and 2 sheets of crispy seaweeds from Itsu.

Paisleycountry1985 · 19/01/2021 16:09

Joining in this time but not adding to the spreadsheet, I have been here before but always give up. I am very determined this time!

I have reached peak fatness. 13st and 5"2 - - not a good look :(

Jumping fully on board to the letter.

Yesterday
No breakfast as had still to go shopping.
Lunch - Tuna/Mayo/Cheese on Cos lettuce
Dinner - Chicken sausage on a bed of leeks/cabbage cooked in butter with melted Boursin added.

Today
BF - 2 boiled eggs mashed with butter
Lunch - Homemade mushroom soup with boursin
Dinner - Homemade burger with bacon, lettuce, tomato

Always manage the water intake and now switching tea/milk for peppermint or Lemon/Ginger

prettybird · 19/01/2021 16:15

Re the reduction in bowel movements: I like to think of it in terms of the advice that we are given about breastfed babies. After the first few days Breastfed babies often go for days between movements and then may have an explosive one Wink because breastmilk is the "perfect" food and attuned to their needs. Therefore there is very little waste that needs to be evacuated so it takes longer for their bowls to fill up.

I see the HFLC WoE as along the same lines: it's more in tune with what our bodies need and therefore there is less waste Grin

Margaritawithlime · 19/01/2021 16:19

Ooh @Paisleycountry1985 talk to me about that soup it sounds yummy with Boursin!

ListenLinda · 19/01/2021 16:20

Hi all hope everyone is going okay today.
Feeling a bit better today but still can’t taste anything, so had some rather boring foods so far.
Greek yogurt for breakfast (took me forever to find a full fat version in sainsburys!)
Sausages & scramled eggs. Now I know we should avoid processed foods but they are from the high end range, 1.7g per sausage and a fat content of 12g. Wont be an every day occurence but needed using up & minimal faff.

Whats everyone having for tea tonight? DH has been pestering for fajitas for a week so i think i’ll have to give in and find an alternative for a wrap!

ListenLinda · 19/01/2021 16:21

I think this cold has addled my typing skills, 1.7g carbs per sausage*!
2 litres down, aiming for another before bed.

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 16:23

@ListenLinda lettuce makes a great wrap for fajitas.

AndreaMartel · 19/01/2021 16:26

I wonder if anyone would repost a link to the spreadsheet please? I can't find the post it was in, have been searching. I wanted to check out rules around quantities and which veg are high. King prawns and grilled red peppers with salad for lunch. Still new and couldn't remember if that is OK and if i should be limiting quantity of prawns.

Great tea recommendations on thread. Like the sound of spiced orange tea.

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 16:28

@AndreaMartel there is no need to limit prawns.

Eat until you’re happy and satisfied.

Paisleycountry1985 · 19/01/2021 16:28

@margaritawithlime

I just made 500mls of stock with Swiss Vegetable Bouillon powder, added some rinsed chopped tinned mushrooms, boiled and then simmered for about 15 mins then added a tablespoon of Boursin, stir to melt and then devour!

Enjoy

1stMrsF · 19/01/2021 16:29

@ListenLinda I like a 'fahita bowl' - bed of crispy lettuce, cucumber etc. pile on the fahita filling and then top with the sour cream/cheese/guac/salsa stuff

cheeseisthebest · 19/01/2021 16:40

Adding boursin is a great idea. It's so nice.

Um how much salt in coffee? Think half a teaspoon was too much! Envy yuk!

LittleMy77 · 19/01/2021 16:40

Another random Q. Am assuming tomatoes count as a fruit and therefore off limits atm?

AthelstaneTheUnready · 19/01/2021 16:43

NEW LINK

BrassicaBabe · 19/01/2021 16:49

Thank you all for your kind and supportive words. Sorry for being such a neurotic. I have been particularly stressed all of 2021 so far. (I'd be amazed if anyone hasn't) I think that has bought forward a certain extra harshness. I think pp about cortisol might have something there. Dry Jan really hasn't helped as it's removed my previous tool for relaxation GrinToday I've had a diagnosis for ADHD. Medication is coming my way. This upcoming meeting has added to my stress.

Anyway, going to give myself a good talking to, calm the feck down, KOKO and to step away from the scales.

pelosi · 19/01/2021 17:04

Hi all, I can't see spring onions in the veg carb counter. Would they be in the green, yellow or red category?

pelosi · 19/01/2021 17:05

@AndreaMartel

I wonder if anyone would repost a link to the spreadsheet please? I can't find the post it was in, have been searching. I wanted to check out rules around quantities and which veg are high. King prawns and grilled red peppers with salad for lunch. Still new and couldn't remember if that is OK and if i should be limiting quantity of prawns.

Great tea recommendations on thread. Like the sound of spiced orange tea.

Hi Andrea, hope this works:

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SEfM-P45ZZGf2Top5BaXdcOP1t7mbUMoYj5JqneFWCk/edit#gid=788946144

BIWI · 19/01/2021 17:06

@pelosi spring onions are 2.9g per 100g, so definitely in the green zone

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Onelittlepiglet · 19/01/2021 17:09

@ListenLinda I had chicken fajitas tonight! I used lettuce for wraps. Made a homemade salsa, smashed up avocados, grated cheese plus a little cream cheese (I couldn’t get sour cream). The chicken was just oil with some herbs and spices - we can’t make it spicy for the kids, so it’s not proper fajitas. DH and the kids had wraps and some rice too. It was delicious and filling!

Other food today was:
B - Greek yoghurt plus small spoon of double cream.
L- vegetable soup
4+ litres of water
2 x cups of tea with a tiny splash of milk.

This is week 3 for me so it’s feeling much more normal and I’m not craving bread or sweet things which is great!

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 17:15

B: coffee with cream, yoghurt with cream
L: beef stew, cauli rice, buttered cabbage
S: homemade burgers with Stilton, prob more cabbage.