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Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - the prep thread

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BIWI · 17/05/2020 20:13

There's a week to go before we start our 5-week Low Carb Bootcamp.

So it's time to get ready and prepare ourselves - planning is critical to the success of Bootcamp - and hopefully this thread should give you all the info that you'll need.

First, a reminder of the programme.

There are 5 weeks

Week 1 is a super-strict week, where we count our calories as well as our carbs (not a usual approach for Bootcamp)

Weeks 2-3 are the normal first part of Bootcamp

Weeks 4-5 are Bootcamp Light, which is slightly more relaxed.

Bootcamp was devised initially as an easy-to-do programme (mainly because I'm a lazy arse and can't be faffed with counting carbs or calories).

But the times we're in now are exceptional, and I know that lots of us have found it really difficult to keep a focus on our weight and what we're eating, hence the idea of having a super-strict first week. The idea is that the first week will really help us to get our heads back into the right space and, ideally, trigger a satisfying amount of weight loss.

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Rshard · 17/05/2020 20:20

Really looking forward to this BIWI! What would you suggest for counting carbs and calories? Is there an app?

Thanks

Glittercandle · 17/05/2020 20:23

Thanks for doing this.

How many carbs will be in our week one allowance?

BIWI · 17/05/2020 20:33

Foods we don't eat AT ALL

Regardless of which week we're talking about, we don't eat any of the following:

pasta/noodles
couscous/grains
oats/porridge
cereals/muesli/granola
rice
lentils/legumes/pulses/chickpeas/hummus
peas/beans
bread/pitta/bagels/wraps
potatoes/sweet potatoes
biscuits
cakes
sweets
chocolate
pizza
flour/cornflour
sugar/honey/agave syrup/maple syrup/jam
full-sugar drinks (fizzy drinks/squash/cordials)
balsamic vinegar

I know that seems a horrific list of things to be excluding, but I promise you there will still be lots of lovely things to eat!

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BIWI · 17/05/2020 21:08

Carb and calorie counting is a real faff - but there are various apps you can use. Most people seem to use My Fitness Pal. I'm a bit old school, and have a couple of books - but also use very regularly the Sainsbury's website - all their foods (on the grocery site) have a breakdown of nutritional information.

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BIWI · 17/05/2020 21:17

For the first strict week there are four key principles

  1. No more than 60g carbs a day
  1. No more than 1000 calories a day (1200 if you're male)
  1. Fasting - ideally you'll do 16:8, which means that you leave 16 hours from your last evening meal until your next meal - so, you finish your evening meal at 8pm. You don't eat anything after that until 12 noon the next day. That also means that any drinks you have in the morning don't have any calories in them - so only black tea or coffee.

If this is too difficult, go for 12:12, which is the same thing, but means you could have something for breakfast at 8am - or just tea/coffee with milk in it until you get to lunchtime.

Fasting is a hugely beneficial thing for your body - I'll post more stuff about fasting later.

  1. Exercise! Although exercise isn't essential for weight loss, it's important psychologically, and also helps to get us refocused on looking after ourselves. If you're already doing a lot, then that's great. But try and do a bit more! If you're not doing any, then start - it might only be a 20 minute walk, but anything is better than nothing. You can do whatever you want - Joe Wicks, Couch to Five K, online yoga - but just try and make time for something every day, and to build on that as well.
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BIWI · 17/05/2020 21:21

One word of warning - counting the carbs isn't like counting the calories - you can't compensate for one 'bad' day by another 'good' day. You need to keep to the daily figure.

60g is given as a daily amount. If you can keep to less than that, that's all to the good - but don't go over one day and think that by doing less the next day that it will even out. Low carbing doesn't work like that!

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BIWI · 17/05/2020 21:23

Although we're counting calories in this first week, it's important to recognise that we're NOT doing this by cutting out fat. When we move to the second week of 'proper' Bootcamp, this is a high fat way of eating.

Of necessity, to keep the calories down, we'll have to restrict fats a little in the first week - but this DOESN'T mean that we'll be using any low fat products.

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Doilooklikeatourist · 17/05/2020 22:30

Thanks @BIWI preparation is everything 🥦 🧀

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 17/05/2020 23:41

Thank you BIWI Flowers . Just done a home delivery shop with a catering supplier for veg and eggs etc. My lovely DP has placed a meat order for me that will also arrive at just the right time. I'm determined to be properly prepared and have meals planned etc to help me stick to it this time.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 17/05/2020 23:44

Just leaving this here, as I hadn't realised before how crucial the large amount of water is for flushing out the ketones. Trying to fit 3.5L of water in a day is going to be a full time job!

Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - the prep thread
Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2020 06:15

Hi BIWI
Thanks for doing these Bootcamps. I’ve finally decided my health is good enough to sign up. However, the sign up thread seems to have disappeared. It’s on on advance search and if I click on the thread, a mumsnet oops cannot find thread pops up. Can you let me know what happened to it. Thanks. Smile

Lockdownsnackathon · 18/05/2020 08:35

Hi can I join?
I'm new to this way of eating, still wrapping my head around it.

Is it ok if I post screenshots of the app that was recommended so someone can help me understand if I'm doing okay with the intakes?

I'm also shitting it over keto flu.

Another thing- 60g carb? I thought it had to be 20?

BIWI · 18/05/2020 09:12

@Lockdownsnackathon

20g carbs per day is from the Atkins diet - in the initial two week induction phase. It's very, very low and (I think) pretty hard for people to do, hence giving a more reasonable, yet still low, daily carb limit.

Of course, as is always said on Mumsnet, it's a limit not a target! You may find that there are some days when you go lower than that, which is absolutely fine.

And re carb (or keto) flu - you won't necessarily suffer from it. Not everyone does. Things you can do to avoid/deal with it are:

  • keeping your water intake up
  • not avoiding the fat
  • using salt in your cooking and on your food
  • take an electrolyte supplement - something like Zero by High5 is the one I usually recommend, as it's carb/calorie-free. (Buy from the High5 website, or online from people like Holland & Barrett, Evans Cycles)
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BIWI · 18/05/2020 09:16

@Mummyoflittledragon I'm glad to hear you feel your health is good Smile

The sign-up thread is still there - go to the Bootcamp topic and you'll find it at the top of the list of threads (under the stickied recipe threads)

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PastramiNoRye · 18/05/2020 09:26

Thanks so much for this BIWI! Looking forward to getting started!

BIWI · 18/05/2020 09:26

Re calories

As with carbs, the 1000 calories per day (1200 if you're a man) is a limit not a target. If you want to restrict further, that's down to you - but please don't go any lower than 800.

1000/1200 calories a day should be very doable, especially when we're introducing IF (intermittent fasting). And if you can manage 16:8, so you haven't had any calories until lunchtime - i.e. no milk in your tea/coffee, and no other food or calorific drinks - that gives you 500 (or 600) calories for your lunch and another 500 (or 600) for your dinner.

You don't have to split them equally of course - you could aim for 300 (400) for lunch, leaving you with 700 (800) for dinner, which is pretty generous.

If you're drinking tea/coffee with milk in - make sure you count the carbs and calories here. It's surprising how quickly they both add up.

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BIWI · 18/05/2020 09:27

I'm also creating a list of carb and calorie-counted meals as inspiration, which I'll put into a Google doc so we can all share it.

If anyone has any favourite meals with the carb/calorie counts that will work with this week, let me know and I'll add those to the list.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2020 09:51

Thanks. Got it now. Must have just been a glitch!

I’m going to do 16:8 but will be eating my meals at breakfast and lunchtime rather than dinner... I have done it before and couldn’t cope with not eating until 12; I get up very early!

I started 16:8 in preparation yesterday in the hope that LCHF will be easier to get into this way. Sugar has been a real feature the last few months to get me through.

I’ve just bought Dr Myhill’s book: The PK Cookbook. I’m going to try making the flax seed bread. This does require something like a nutribullet as it doesn’t worked with pre-milled seeds (water absorption issues). I have a grinding attachment on my mixer, which I have used for grinding nuts so hope that will be ok.

250g Linseed / flax seeds grind in 2 batches.

Add in exactly 270ml water and mix with wooden spoon until thickened.
Scoop a dollop of coconut oil with hands and mix in.
Place in 500g / 1lb loaf tin
Bake 1hr 220C
Dark seeds = black loaf
Light seeds = brown loaf

KurriKawari · 18/05/2020 15:59

There's me thinking hey I don't eat much carbs, then thought about my menu today:

  • breakfast: cup of tea
  • lunch: homemade cheesy veg pasta
  • dinner: aloo gobi (potatoes and cauliflower) with a chappati
Seems like I eat more carbs than I realised! Hope to learn lots from this thread.
BIWI · 18/05/2020 21:49

@KurriKawari how could you think that's not a carb-heavy day?!!!

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BIWI · 18/05/2020 21:51

IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT WEEK 1

If you have a history of disordered eating, or have any kind of eating disorder, PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS WEEK but start with Bootcamp instead

A focus on counting both carbs and calories could be too triggering for you, and it's not something we want to risk.

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BIWI · 18/05/2020 21:56

And here are the rules of Bootcamp, which we'll be following from week 2 (or which some of you may choose to do instead of the first strict week):

1. Eat three proper meals a day

NB although this is the first rule of Bootcamp, having started the Leaving Lockdown Bootcamp with intermittent fasting (IF) you may want to continue this. As long as you're managing to do this without being hungry, this is fine to do.

In the first two weeks of Bootcamp you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in olive or coconut oil or lard or butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made oily dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating plenty of vegetables and salad
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are under 4g carbs per 100g - there will be a list of vegetable carb counts on the spreadsheet. If you focus on eating those vegetables that are 4g carb per 100g or less, this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat. (There's also a handy carb counter on the spreadsheet that will calculate the carbs for you)

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/.

Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way. (It should also go without saying that we don't eat any crisps or other salty snacks on Bootcamp!)

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Polkadotties · 18/05/2020 22:31

Thanks BIWI

CalendulaAndRoses · 19/05/2020 09:38

wow! so glad I stumbled across this thread. I've done low carb before and it is the only thing that really works for me in terms of weightloss AND getting on top of my serious belly bloat (think flat tummy at rising followed by nine month pregnant look by bedtime - ugh!) I've always done it alone before but am finding it hard to motivate myself now in lock down and things have slipped. I could do with losing about 10 -14lbs and definitely changing eating patterns again to deal with the bloating. I'm an intermittent IFer so having companions on that will be good too. Looking forward to not having to wear stretchy waistbands after this !!!

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