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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

2018 pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp starts on 15 October

302 replies

BIWI · 02/09/2018 22:41

Plenty of notice for everyone Grin

If you're interested, sign up here.

OP posts:
alisonm85 · 12/10/2018 21:38

I'd love to be added too if possible. Newby and don't know how it works!

AthelstaneTheUnready · 12/10/2018 21:44

Hi, alisonm85 Grin - I'll add you to the spreadsheet, and @BIWI will be along to explain how it all works. She posted the initial rules earlier up the thread, but I think she's having a few technical issues atm.

Flowers762 · 12/10/2018 23:31

Could you add me please? I can’t cut and paste all on my phone. Thank you

lobeydosser · 13/10/2018 03:01

BIWI
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Prettybird
TwoflowersLuggage
Ilovecherries
WasWittyOnce
Rshard
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littleredlipstick
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MrsCoyote
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Thing101
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Sheldonesque
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ItsalmostSummer
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sunnyBeach
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MasterFlamingo
Finallymorethananumber
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Lonesurvivor
3stonedown
Noice
Myownname
Wacadu
Mandelinka
UpYaKilt
Butterfly44
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MostlyHungryAgain
Sonia8338
Catbo
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TerfsUp
TheRealHousewife
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SayrraT
Nyon
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sos1993
Luki
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blackteaplease
clare8allthepies
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NowImFound
jaxhwc
banano
TimeIhadaNameChange
matarij16
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Ana999
Iamnotacerealkiller
Lanawinters
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TeaRose29
Starsky22
Kokoloco
Tiredofit
MyShinyThing
Doilooklikeatourist
Oldbirdy
Everdeenstaken
Grah0SoontobeaFitty
Fartoomuchcakeandwine
Toomanyhours
mumof6anditshows
bluelefant
Sowhatifidosnore
Collectorofcookbooks
HettyB
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flyright
grimDamnFanjo
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Linzdreamz sorry, had to name change, updated. Thanks
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lobeydosser

BIWI · 13/10/2018 07:57

Welcome everyone!

Technical issues seem to be sorted, I think. For some reason I wasn't able to post the whole of the rules in one go, but had to break it into two posts.

So this weekend is the final preparation for Bootcamp - the critical thing, as I said upthread, is to make sure that you have a house/cupboards/fridge/freezer full of good, tasty low carb foods and snacks. And make sure that you've removed all possible temptations!

Check out the recipe threads for inspiration - they're all stickied at the top of the Bootcamp topic, and there are some really good ideas there.

A couple of things that I'm often asked:

How many carbs should be eating per day?

We don't count carbs or calories on Bootcamp. The whole thinking behind Bootcamp is that se make it as easy to follow as possible. That doesn't mean Bootcamp is easy - you may find it quite hard for the first week or so as you withdraw from a high carb diet - but the whole focus is on a WOE (way of eating) that is a 'normal' as possible.

If you follow Bootcamp rules then there should be no need to count the carbs. When it comes to calories, in the early days of Bootcamp don't worry about counting them. However, this isn't carte blanche to pile your plate high and stuff your face! Keep an eye on portion sizes and make sure you're not overdoing it.

If you're hungry on this WOE (which is very unlikely once you're accustomed to it), then eat!. Just make sure you're eating low carb foods.

Which brings us to the second question:

What snacks can I have in Bootcamp?

The current high carb diet low fat that we're advised to follow is one which makes us hungry. People these days are so used to being hungry (usually around 11 am and 3 pm) that we now end up planning our daily snacks - which you really don't need.

When it comes to hunger, a high carb meal makes your insulin levels rise quickly, so a whole load of insulin is released to deal with this - but that means that your blood sugar drops quickly, which is what makes you hungry.

You aren't hungry because your stomach is empty (at least not in the Western world), but it's a combination of three key hormones: insulin, leptin and grehlin. If you follow a low/er carb diet, the insulin released is much lower, your blood sugar levels aren't rising and falling as much, and you won't feel hungry between meals. Honestly!

That said, in the early days (the first week especially) you may feel hungry between meals, as you adjust to the new diet. If this is so, then cheese, olives, cucumber/celery and a sour cream dip (full fat!) or mayo (also full fat!) make good snacks. Having a stash of hard boiled eggs in the fridge can also help.

OP posts:
CodLiverOil556 · 13/10/2018 10:04

Please can you add me to the list. This will be my 4th bootcamp and I've not been able to finish any of them. I need to be strong and stick to it and get rid of my sugar addiction

BIWI
Gammeldragz
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LeavingTheSandBehind
Wildheartsease
Laska5772
Boldlygoingsomewhere
Igletpiglet
MaudesMum
Tatiannatomasina
StuntNun
Prettybird
TwoflowersLuggage
Ilovecherries
WasWittyOnce
Rshard
LeapinLizards
littleredlipstick
LCHF2018
Monkeymama1
MrsCoyote
AthelstaneTheUnready
Thing101
Justmuddlingalong
Bingisatwat
Sheldonesque
Bettyblueeyes83
PearlandRubies194
HatethewordHun
ItsalmostSummer
Fairnair
DamsonMerryweather
Spiderkitty
KavvLar
TheNorthernTights
sunnyBeach
OutThroughTheInDoor
CupcakeEater
Tokenman
Kleptronic
Jumie
KNpepper
Bobow
MasterFlamingo
Finallymorethananumber
IWasADrabLittleCrabOnce
MushroomMushroom
Lonesurvivor
3stonedown
Noice
Myownname
Wacadu
Mandelinka
UpYaKilt
Butterfly44
GrandOldDukeOfPorkiness
MostlyHungryAgain
Sonia8338
Catbo
Wheelycote
Footballmum
TerfsUp
TheRealHousewife
Wonkygiraffe
SayrraT
Nyon
Billionnairewannabe
sos1993
Luki
MysweetAudrina
blackteaplease
clare8allthepies
MrsSnippyPants
NowImFound
jaxhwc
banano
TimeIhadaNameChange
matarij16
Fallenagain
Billybumbler
TightPants
IntentsAndPorpoises
NLisa
DramaAlpaca
LipstickForADogwalk
Countdownto40
TimeThief
PamPooveysCow
Cantstopworryingabouit
titsbumfannythelot
GoldenGumballs
Millionaireshortie
Sharknado
Bingenomore
AveAtqueVale
HenryInTheTunnel
Takiwatanga
Lostmyunicorn
Scrumble
ButterflyWitch
Cabininthewoods2016
Lizard202
Nekobus
bibliomania
Billyandthesillies
Itchyknees
batshittery
abbey44
Coocoocachoo2017
DianaT1969
Ciarabean
Wantmorenow
Saved!
Meercat23
Clashcityrocker
Ana999
Iamnotacerealkiller
Lanawinters
Flowersinthegarden
TheGlaikitRambler
TeaRose29
Starsky22
Kokoloco
Tiredofit
MyShinyThing
Doilooklikeatourist
Oldbirdy
Everdeenstaken
Grah0SoontobeaFitty
Fartoomuchcakeandwine
Toomanyhours
mumof6anditshows
bluelefant
Sowhatifidosnore
Collectorofcookbooks
HettyB
Hidethecrisps
flyright
grimDamnFanjo
Bambi356
EwanHoozami
Linzdreamz sorry, had to name change, updated. Thanks
Newlease
lobeydosser
kermitrulesok

Mulberrywhite · 13/10/2018 10:23

Hi, can I please join in. Loved it last time

BIWI · 13/10/2018 13:27

There you go @mulberywhite!

BIWI
Gammeldragz
Tartantroosers
LeavingTheSandBehind
Wildheartsease
Laska5772
Boldlygoingsomewhere
Igletpiglet
MaudesMum
Tatiannatomasina
StuntNun
Prettybird
TwoflowersLuggage
Ilovecherries
WasWittyOnce
Rshard
LeapinLizards
littleredlipstick
LCHF2018
Monkeymama1
MrsCoyote
AthelstaneTheUnready
Thing101
Justmuddlingalong
Bingisatwat
Sheldonesque
Bettyblueeyes83
PearlandRubies194
HatethewordHun
ItsalmostSummer
Fairnair
DamsonMerryweather
Spiderkitty
KavvLar
TheNorthernTights
sunnyBeach
OutThroughTheInDoor
CupcakeEater
Tokenman
Kleptronic
Jumie
KNpepper
Bobow
MasterFlamingo
Finallymorethananumber
IWasADrabLittleCrabOnce
MushroomMushroom
Lonesurvivor
3stonedown
Noice
Myownname
Wacadu
Mandelinka
UpYaKilt
Butterfly44
GrandOldDukeOfPorkiness
MostlyHungryAgain
Sonia8338
Catbo
Wheelycote
Footballmum
TerfsUp
TheRealHousewife
Wonkygiraffe
SayrraT
Nyon
Billionnairewannabe
sos1993
Luki
MysweetAudrina
blackteaplease
clare8allthepies
MrsSnippyPants
NowImFound
jaxhwc
banano
TimeIhadaNameChange
matarij16
Fallenagain
Billybumbler
TightPants
IntentsAndPorpoises
NLisa
DramaAlpaca
LipstickForADogwalk
Countdownto40
TimeThief
PamPooveysCow
Cantstopworryingabouit
titsbumfannythelot
GoldenGumballs
Millionaireshortie
Sharknado
Bingenomore
AveAtqueVale
HenryInTheTunnel
Takiwatanga
Lostmyunicorn
Scrumble
ButterflyWitch
Cabininthewoods2016
Lizard202
Nekobus
bibliomania
Billyandthesillies
Itchyknees
batshittery
abbey44
Coocoocachoo2017
DianaT1969
Ciarabean
Wantmorenow
Saved!
Meercat23
Clashcityrocker
Ana999
Iamnotacerealkiller
Lanawinters
Flowersinthegarden
TheGlaikitRambler
TeaRose29
Starsky22
Kokoloco
Tiredofit
MyShinyThing
Doilooklikeatourist
Oldbirdy
Everdeenstaken
Grah0SoontobeaFitty
Fartoomuchcakeandwine
Toomanyhours
mumof6anditshows
bluelefant
Sowhatifidosnore
Collectorofcookbooks
HettyB
Hidethecrisps
flyright
grimDamnFanjo
Bambi356
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kermitrulesok
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OP posts:
BIWI · 13/10/2018 13:30

Using the spreadsheet

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness is lovely cared for by @AthelstaneTheUnready. It's a Google Doc, which means everyone can access it remotely.

However, for those of you using a smartphone or iPad, you will find it easier if you download the app first.

Here's the app.

Please try your hardest to update your weight yourself, rather than having to ask Athelstane to do it. We have around 150 people signed up this time, so if everyone is relying on her to do it, that's a lot of work!

If you really can't do it, then other Bootcampers will always help you out, but please try first! Smile

OP posts:
BIWI · 13/10/2018 13:57

Posting on the threads

I'll start a new chat thread every Monday, and will always post a link to the spreadsheet.

The chat threads are a massive source of support (and entertainment!), so please do read them - and join in! Grin

But be aware - the threads move very quickly, especially in the first week.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD, AND DON'T JUST JUMP IN TO POST YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENTS!

Lots of people post questions, which other Bootcampers take care to answer, and it's really frustrating when someone comes along and posts the same question because they couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread.

Equally, if you read the whole thread you could find yourself in a position to support another Bootcamper. The whole point of these threads is for us to support each other. The threads aren't just your personal journal Smile

OP posts:
BIWI · 13/10/2018 14:02

I will tell you off!

Low carbing is not a very forgiving way of eating. Experienced Bootcampers will confirm that! It's not like a low calorie diet, where you can compensate at one meal for going off plan in another.

You have to keep all your meals (and snacks) low carb if you want to see the weight disappear.

If you start to post about going off plan, or cheating (as there's often a lot of this!), I will wave my big stick about and make it plain where you're going wrong

There's no point in me just sympathising with you. My job is to make sure that you're successful.

So I'm apologising now Grin

OP posts:
WheelyCote · 13/10/2018 14:23

Ooo almost thereGrin

WheelyCote · 13/10/2018 14:29

Biwi
After the first couple of weeks is it normal for weight to plateau? Is it just the body catching up?

BIWI · 13/10/2018 14:35

Yes it's very normal. Weeks 3 & 4 can be quite frustrating, especially if you know you're doing everything properly!

I think it's to do with the body catching up although @StuntNun will know more about the science behind it.

Best advice is to KOKO (keep on keeping on). If you lost in weeks 1 & 2 then you're doing something right, so don't change anything and just keep going.

OP posts:
StuntNun · 13/10/2018 14:58

Wheely weight loss typically plateaus at some point around week 3 after going low carb however this doesn’t meant that fat loss has also plateaued. What usually happens is that a temporary increase in ADH (anti-diuretic hormone) causes water retention. The added water weight makes it seem like you’ve stopped losing when in fact you should still be burning fat (so long as you’re following the Bootcamp rules.) if you keep on eating low carb then your ADH levels will drop again and the water will disappear. It can actually be quite obvious because you’ll find that you’re peeing much more than usual for a day or two!

BIWI · 13/10/2018 15:14

I called and she came Grin

thanks very much @StuntNun.

OP posts:
BIWI · 13/10/2018 15:21

For those of you just starting out, thinking about what to cook The Diet Doctor site has a 2 week diet plan.

It's a great site generally too, so worth having a read around as well as looking at the recipes.

OP posts:
WheelyCote · 13/10/2018 16:07

Thanks Biwi and StuntNun!👍💪🏻

I started early....too impatient to wait lol today marks beginning of 4th week. I've been so looking forward to having you lovely fellow mumsnetters to do LCBC with!!

I lost quite a bit in the first couple of weeks🎉 and slowed down after. What you both have said makes sense👍

When it comes to the spreadsheet, I think I'd prefer to focus on body measurements now. Should I take my name off the list?

WheelyCote · 13/10/2018 16:10

Ooo and is single cream in coffee better or double cream??

I love the double cream💗 but my colleagues faces and intakes of breadth when I pour that bad boy cream in, makes me wonder should I be single creaming it.

Sorry if I shouldn't be posting here because I've started early

BIWI · 13/10/2018 16:43

Have you got a link to the last spreadsheet? You need to have a read of the resources there and get your head around why high fat is good!

Definitely double cream. It has a much higher fat content and a lower carb content.

Don't worry about what other people say - you will get a lot of this btw! - but arm yourself with more knowledge about it.

If you want to do some reading, I can highly recommend 'Escape the Diet Trap' by Dr John Briffa, or 'How we get fat and what to do about it' by Gary Taubes.

But also, go and have a read of the Diet Doctor website - he explains low carbing really well.

OP posts:
tootstastic · 13/10/2018 19:43

Could I join please? I've successfully low-carbed before, but put much of the weight back on and really ready to get a grip.

Good luck for Monday everyone 👊🏻

BIWI
Gammeldragz
Tartantroosers
LeavingTheSandBehind
Wildheartsease
Laska5772
Boldlygoingsomewhere
Igletpiglet
MaudesMum
Tatiannatomasina
StuntNun
Prettybird
TwoflowersLuggage
Ilovecherries
WasWittyOnce
Rshard
LeapinLizards
littleredlipstick
LCHF2018
Monkeymama1
MrsCoyote
AthelstaneTheUnready
Thing101
Justmuddlingalong
Bingisatwat
Sheldonesque
Bettyblueeyes83
PearlandRubies194
HatethewordHun
ItsalmostSummer
Fairnair
DamsonMerryweather
Spiderkitty
KavvLar
TheNorthernTights
sunnyBeach
OutThroughTheInDoor
CupcakeEater
Tokenman
Kleptronic
Jumie
KNpepper
Bobow
MasterFlamingo
Finallymorethananumber
IWasADrabLittleCrabOnce
MushroomMushroom
Lonesurvivor
3stonedown
Noice
Myownname
Wacadu
Mandelinka
UpYaKilt
Butterfly44
GrandOldDukeOfPorkiness
MostlyHungryAgain
Sonia8338
Catbo
Wheelycote
Footballmum
TerfsUp
TheRealHousewife
Wonkygiraffe
SayrraT
Nyon
Billionnairewannabe
sos1993
Luki
MysweetAudrina
blackteaplease
clare8allthepies
MrsSnippyPants
NowImFound
jaxhwc
banano
TimeIhadaNameChange
matarij16
Fallenagain
Billybumbler
TightPants
IntentsAndPorpoises
NLisa
DramaAlpaca
LipstickForADogwalk
Countdownto40
TimeThief
PamPooveysCow
Cantstopworryingabouit
titsbumfannythelot
GoldenGumballs
Millionaireshortie
Sharknado
Bingenomore
AveAtqueVale
HenryInTheTunnel
Takiwatanga
Lostmyunicorn
Scrumble
ButterflyWitch
Cabininthewoods2016
Lizard202
Nekobus
bibliomania
Billyandthesillies
Itchyknees
batshittery
abbey44
Coocoocachoo2017
DianaT1969
Ciarabean
Wantmorenow
Saved!
Meercat23
Clashcityrocker
Ana999
Iamnotacerealkiller
Lanawinters
Flowersinthegarden
TheGlaikitRambler
TeaRose29
Starsky22
Kokoloco
Tiredofit
MyShinyThing
Doilooklikeatourist
Oldbirdy
Everdeenstaken
Grah0SoontobeaFitty
Fartoomuchcakeandwine
Toomanyhours
mumof6anditshows
bluelefant
Sowhatifidosnore
Collectorofcookbooks
HettyB
Hidethecrisps
flyright
grimDamnFanjo
Bambi356
EwanHoozami
Linzdreamz sorry, had to name change, updated. Thanks
Newlease
lobeydosser
kermitrulesok
mulberry white
tootstastic

fridayrain · 13/10/2018 20:40

@AthelstaneTheUnready Would you mind adding me to the spreadsheet please?

BlackMozart · 13/10/2018 22:10

Thanks Athel 🙂

2018anewstart · 13/10/2018 23:56

I'd love to join could someone add me to list please. Need to kick my sugar addiction. First time Bootcamper and it sounds great.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 14/10/2018 07:46

friday and new, you're on the spreadsheet as well. It will indeed be great Grin

BIWI
Gammeldragz
Tartantroosers
LeavingTheSandBehind
Wildheartsease
Laska5772
Boldlygoingsomewhere
Igletpiglet
MaudesMum
Tatiannatomasina
StuntNun
Prettybird
TwoflowersLuggage
Ilovecherries
WasWittyOnce
Rshard
LeapinLizards
littleredlipstick
LCHF2018
Monkeymama1
MrsCoyote
AthelstaneTheUnready
Thing101
Justmuddlingalong
Bingisatwat
Sheldonesque
Bettyblueeyes83
PearlandRubies194
HatethewordHun
ItsalmostSummer
Fairnair
DamsonMerryweather
Spiderkitty
KavvLar
TheNorthernTights
sunnyBeach
OutThroughTheInDoor
CupcakeEater
Tokenman
Kleptronic
Jumie
KNpepper
Bobow
MasterFlamingo
Finallymorethananumber
IWasADrabLittleCrabOnce
MushroomMushroom
Lonesurvivor
3stonedown
Noice
Myownname
Wacadu
Mandelinka
UpYaKilt
Butterfly44
GrandOldDukeOfPorkiness
MostlyHungryAgain
Sonia8338
Catbo
Wheelycote
Footballmum
TerfsUp
TheRealHousewife
Wonkygiraffe
SayrraT
Nyon
Billionnairewannabe
sos1993
Luki
MysweetAudrina
blackteaplease
clare8allthepies
MrsSnippyPants
NowImFound
jaxhwc
banano
TimeIhadaNameChange
matarij16
Fallenagain
Billybumbler
TightPants
IntentsAndPorpoises
NLisa
DramaAlpaca
LipstickForADogwalk
Countdownto40
TimeThief
PamPooveysCow
Cantstopworryingabouit
titsbumfannythelot
GoldenGumballs
Millionaireshortie
Sharknado
Bingenomore
AveAtqueVale
HenryInTheTunnel
Takiwatanga
Lostmyunicorn
Scrumble
ButterflyWitch
Cabininthewoods2016
Lizard202
Nekobus
bibliomania
Billyandthesillies
Itchyknees
batshittery
abbey44
Coocoocachoo2017
DianaT1969
Ciarabean
Wantmorenow
Saved!
Meercat23
Clashcityrocker
Ana999
Iamnotacerealkiller
Lanawinters
Flowersinthegarden
TheGlaikitRambler
TeaRose29
Starsky22
Kokoloco
Tiredofit
MyShinyThing
Doilooklikeatourist
Oldbirdy
Everdeenstaken
Grah0SoontobeaFitty
Fartoomuchcakeandwine
Toomanyhours
mumof6anditshows
bluelefant
Sowhatifidosnore
Collectorofcookbooks
HettyB
Hidethecrisps
flyright
grimDamnFanjo
Bambi356
EwanHoozami
Linzdreamz sorry, had to name change, updated. Thanks
Newlease
lobeydosser
kermitrulesok
mulberry white
tootstastic
fridayrain
2018anewstart