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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - off we go!

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BIWI · 13/05/2018 21:42

There are over 220 of us signed up for this Bootcamp, which I'm fairly sure must be some kind of record!

I'm starting this thread this evening, so that you can have a chance to read it, but also because I have an early start tomorrow, and won't have the time in the morning.

So, firstly, here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness Many, many thanks to @AthelstaneTheUnready and @TimeIHadANameChange for offering to help out with this Flowers

When you click on the link, please look for the tab at the bottom that says 'May weigh-in'. There's still a tab to the last Bootcamp which we can't seem to delete - but your name will be on the May one.

Tomorrow, you enter your weight OR if you wish, you index it, which means that you start off at 100. For every pound you lose, you take one away. So if you start at 11 stone 13 pounds, and lose 5 pounds in the first week, then your second week you'd enter 95.

OR you don't have to be on the spreadsheet if you don't want to.

If you don't enter your weight for a couple of weeks, then we'll take you off the spreadsheet altogether.

If you find your name isn't on the spreadsheet, don't panic!. Just add your name at the bottom, and then it will be re-alphabetised later.

And here are the rules

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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Waswittyonce · 16/05/2018 16:48

I didn't even get as far as puréeing it @JuneBalloon Grin

ScienceNut · 16/05/2018 17:05

Hi everyone, I have finally for the first time managed to read to the end of the thread. Struggling to keep up in the time I have!

Currently 3lb down since Monday which is nice.

Menu for yesterday:
B: coffee and cream
L: tuna mayo, grated cheese and cucumber
D: homemade burger, porkbelly and rocket with dressing.

Today differs by the dinner which is chicken wrapped in bacon with melted cheddar and brocoli.

Snacks have been cheese, hard boiled eggs and shedded ham hock.

Struggling to keep up with water as job means I can’t go to the loo whenever I need and its a hell of lot more than I normally drink! But will keep trying, getting to about 2.5l when I should be on 3.5l

wherehavealltheflowersgone · 16/05/2018 17:06

@Eolian co-yo is coconut milk yoghurt as recommended to me by @StuntNun I think. It's bloody lovely mixed with Greek yog you can get it in Waitrose / some Sainsbury's but it's pricey!

Goodasgoldilox · 16/05/2018 17:16

There are so many great ideas on here. Thanks everyone!

Is anyone else a little afraid to trust this WOE? I still feel that I am walking across a bridge that might not be safe.

Until this week I have been following the 'bloodsugar' recipes (so low carb but also low calorie) and am a little afraid of eating too much on this WOE.

Destinysdaughter · 16/05/2018 17:28

ilovecherries ooh that chimichuri looks lovely! Do you have the recipe for it? 😀

Whenisitbedtime · 16/05/2018 17:30

Hi everyone
I've been reading the thread but only just made it to the end! Well done to everyone for making it to day 3. I feel absolutely terrible this afternoon and from what you've all said I think it must be carb flu. I've been having:
B- scrambled eggs with butter
L- sardine/pilchard salad
D- chicken/pork/lamb with veg
Not as exciting as some of your recipes I know. I'm definitely drinking enough water as I keep getting up for the loo! Is 2 creamy coffees a day too many?

StuntNun · 16/05/2018 17:30

Don't worry gang, not everyone gets carb flu!

What exactly are you worried about Goldilox? I'm sure I'll be able to reassure you. There are plenty of good books that you can read up on. Gary Taubes is particularly readable and meticulously referenced.

Whenisitbedtime · 16/05/2018 17:32

Sorry I also meant to say I can't weigh or measure having neither scales or tape measure but am trying on a pair of trousers which are too small to see the difference. So please take me off the spreadsheet but I'll still join in on the thread if ok.

Eolian · 16/05/2018 17:33

Thanks wherehavealltheflowersgone. Sounds good. I am many many miles from a Waitrose, and quite a few from a Sainsbury's. Will scour the other supermarkets though. Is there a particular brand to look out for?

Scabbersley · 16/05/2018 17:33

I don't get carb flu. I drink loads and eat lots of lo salt, not sure if that helps

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MelanieCheeks · 16/05/2018 17:42

Did I just imagine a cauliflower chese recipe that used the leaves and stalks to make the sauce? Cannot find it now!

UnimaginativeUsername · 16/05/2018 17:42

I’ve had one of those electrolyte tabs to help with the low level headache I’ve got. It hasn’t done much yet tbh - other than not tasting great. But I’ll stick with it. I’d much rather be in the ‘no carb flu’ camp.

I had chargrilled chicken (with paprika, garlic and lime) with roasted broccoli and fennel and sugarsnap peas fried in butter for dinner. It was delicious.

RuffleBelly · 16/05/2018 17:44

Hi everyone. Thanks @BIWI for the advice on calories, I’ll stop trying to count.

So I was on training today and passed on the pastries brought in for breakfast, skipped the coffee and biscuits mid morning and avoided the bread, pasta, potato and cous cous based lunch in favour of the attached which was mainly sides. I did put a few slices of beetroot on the plate but I’m worried that it was high carb. That is a side plate by the way to constrain portion size! Then this afternoon we had a choice of hot chocolate and brownies which I’d have normally dived into but sipped mint tea instead! Then they were handing out free packs of sweets at the train station which I’ve put in my back for DD. I have never had such willpower!

However I feel quite low as I feel no different and a bit bloated. I’ve had no carb-flu or similar and just feeling like it’s having no impact.

@Farine I’m not signed up for any races other than a 10km but have done a few half’s this year and I’m thinking of an Autumn marathon maybe. I’m not sure I have time to fit in training so that might become a Spring marathon which is easier for me to fit in. Is it your first marathon?

Also to my fellow park runners I’m stuck at about 32m at the moment but hopefully shifting weight will get me back to sub-30 which I was managing easily when I was a few stone lighter! It makes a huge difference - 2 stone represents 5 mins off my time to me so I’m desperate to get both the scales and time down!

Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - off we go!
3stonedown · 16/05/2018 17:47

I think my app has gone screwy as I've lost my bookmarks so that's annoying and keep losing my place. Hope everyone has had a good day 3. I've struggled with my water today, hopefully get a lot in tonight. Food today has been:

B: scrambled eggs and smoked salmon
L: chicken avocado and mozzarella salad
D: asparagus frittata (and DDs leftover sausage Blush )

ilovecherries · 16/05/2018 17:47

Goldie, I'm not going to tackle the science explanation, but I do understand that it can be quite frightening to do something that seems to run counter to most 'official' nutritional advice. When I started this woe a year ago, I was terrified it would make things worse, but it really was last chance saloon for me. I committed to follow it to the letter - no exceptions, no 'treats', no 'well it's a special occasion/celebration/didn't want to be rude' etc etc. 12 months later I'm 5 stone lighter, I've got a normal bmi. I feel well. Yet I STILL sometimes find the HF bit hard to do. The LC bit is fine, but the HF not so much, sometimes. I need to keep my eye on that bottle of olive oil at all times :). I hope that helps, but if you can articulate exactly what you are afraid of, then someone other than me will be able to give you a better explanation.

ilovecherries · 16/05/2018 17:51

Destiny, the recipe should be in the recipie thread. I think I labelled it as basil chicken bake (or possibly pesto chicken bake) but I didn't want to use pine nuts while I'm revisiting strict b/c.

Pebblespony · 16/05/2018 17:55

I love this diet. After ages of points counting etc it's so nice to be able to love meat, cheese, cream! DH is in heaven.

RuffleBelly · 16/05/2018 18:04

@ilovecherries wow that’s an amazing loss. Did you start with a boot camp and continue and do you never have any form of treat?

I have several special occasions in the next few months and not sure what to do. I don’t want to sabotage my diet but is just say one meal off a month a complete no?

First I am taking my DD to London for the night and she wants to go to a pizza restaurant for dinner (her fav) and a pancake place for breakfast. Any ideas of places near London Bridge that will meet her criteria and have low carb options for me?

Harder is a special birthday for DH. We’ll go out for an Indian which I should be able to low carb but I know the children will be really upset if I don’t join in with the cake and I don’t want to say no I’m dieting as I try to encourage healthy eating and they can have what they like in moderation rather than creating an issue with food. Plus I really would feel upset making him his fav cake and not trying it!!!

Destinysdaughter · 16/05/2018 18:06

For those of you fretting about the amount of calories or that you feel bloated and worried that this won't work, trust me, it will if you follow the process! I know it feels totally counter intuitive but so many of us have done it and had fantastic results, just give it time.

Seafour · 16/05/2018 18:11

Just checking in with my food for the day, feel free to critique please

B: two hard boiled eggs with butter and half an avocado
L: whole avocado with mayo cucumber and cold pork
D: fatty pork chop, mushrooms and butter fried greens

KOKO everyone, shopping tomorrow so planning to try some of the lovely recipes I've seen on here.

Destinysdaughter · 16/05/2018 18:11

Stuntnun posted this on the Jan BC thread and I found it so helpful I saved it! It's a bit of info about the science behind why this works. I hope some of you find it helpful:

Why LC works

I know low calorie diets are bad because of the response it provokes in the body, but does the same apply if you end up eating a low number of calories following lchf and intermittent fasting?

No Grimbles it doesn't work like that. On a Calorie Restriction As Primary (CRAP) diet you consume less calories than your body needs but due to a high carb intake your insulin levels remain high making it difficult to burn fat so your metabolism may slow to conserve calories and your body may break down muscle mass for protein. Note that this doesn't happen for everyone, some people do effectively lose weight on calorie-controlled diets. Unfortunately the Standard UK (SUK) diet tends to cause metabolic damage over time leaving us insulin resistant, leptin resistant, and storing large amounts of fat and simple calorie restriction no longer works effectively to lose weight.

Science alert!
On a low carb high fat diet your low insulin levels allow you to freely access your fat stores. Fat cells have insulin receptors on their membranes so when insulin levels are high the membranes will only let free fatty acids in but not out, promoting fat storage. When insulin levels are low then free fatty acids flow freely in and out of fat cells all the time. Another thing that happens when you cut carbs is that your triglyceride levels, that is the amount of fat circulating in the blood, drop dramatically. This is because your cells are using fat as fuel rather than carbohydrate so most of the cells of the body (apart from a few such as the brain) start sucking up all the fat in the blood as an energy source. High triglyceride levels block leptin from entering the brain. Leptin is a hormone released by fat cells to tell the brain how much fat you have stored. Overweight people have high triglyceride levels so even though they have ample fat supplies the leptin can't get through to the brain so as far as the brain is concerned you are skeletally thin and need to keep eating.

Less sciencey bit
On a low carb diet your fat cells release fat into the blood (since insulin levels are low) which is sucked up by other body cells as an energy source. And the leptin hormone released by fat cells tells your brain that you have too much fat stored. So through the action of further hormones (such as ghrelin) the brain reduces appetite in order to use up the excess fat.

The result is that if your body needs 1,800 calories a day to function then you consume e.g. 1,400 calories per day and you use up 400 calories from your fat stored. So even though you are consuming less calories than you need your body still has as much calories as it needs. Hence no hunger - why would you be hungry when your body is amply supplied with calories? This is why there is no metabolic slowdown or loss of lean body mass on a low carb diet.

Leptin also explains why weight loss slows as you approach your ideal weight. The nearer you are to your ideal weight, the less leptin is released so your body starts to use less of its fat stores for energy.

Champagnecharleyismyname · 16/05/2018 18:28

All going well. I have 2 bags of frozen spinach in the freezer, does anyone have a recipe for creamed spinach?

ReadingwithTea · 16/05/2018 18:31

Destinysdaughter that is so helpful, thank you.

I know what you mean Goodasgoldilox, with regard to trusting this woe. I have found it so helpful and reassuring to hear other posters explain how it works, as well as share their inspiring stories of success.

The science explanation really makes sense, but I have felt a bit wobbly about what I’m eating, so thank you for that information.

Leelaseye · 16/05/2018 18:37

Also interested in a creamed spinach recipe. Not sure it will go with the Bolognese I'm having or not, but love the sound of it!

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