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Defeating emotional eating

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OldBooks · 25/06/2017 19:39

It seems like several of us doing Bootcamp struggle with eating for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with hunger ... boredom, tiredness, stress, upset, and even when happy or celebrating.

I thought a thread where we can share experiences, resources and tips might help us stop self-sabotaging and increase our Bootcamp success. Just because cream is a bootcamp approved food doesn't mean you should eat a whole pot in one go because you had a crap day ...

I started a thread about this a while back so I will repost my story:
^Background (apologies for length): I have been a 'big girl' ever since I hit puberty, diagnosed with PCOS in my late teens. I seem to settle at size 16-18 and usually weigh around 90-100 kilos. I am now in my 30s and have just had DD2 which has obviously affected my tummy and I look flabbier than ever. I have lost weight in the past on low-carb diets or on 5:2 but always get derailed and never manage to maintain any loss.

My mother is a classic narcissist and we have a difficult relationship. One of her biggest sticking points is my weight. She herself is vain and insecure and constantly references her weight, what she is eating, how she needs to exercise etc. She grabs her tummy and says how disgusting she looks. This is almost a game or a habit as she never actually does anything to address it. Ever since I started to gain weight in my teens she has commented on it, screamed and shouted at me to lose weight, been extremely negative etc to the point of giving me a huge complex, shredding my self esteem/confidence and leaving me with disordered thoughts around food and eating. Of course she never actually helped me to take any positive steps to lose weight or begin exercising, and I have come to understand that in a way she actually wants me to be overweight as it reduces my threat to her vanity and she has sabotaged me to ensure I stay big, eg always bringing cakes/biscuits when she visits. I have struggled with depression and anxiety and have found my negative thinking about my appearance has affected my life, especially before I met my DH. For example missing a friend's wedding because I thought I looked hideous in all my outfits.

I was always a 'good girl', no drinking, smoking, boys and successful academically - eating was my only 'vice'. I comfort eat a lot, when I am stressed, sad, angry, bored etc I immediately crave sweet foods. I have only been able to maintain dieting/healthy eating during stable and stress free periods of my life, as soon as there is any difficulty I want to eat eat eat again. I also began to self harm in my teens and will still do so in extremis - I think that overeating and ruining my health by doing so is a form of self harm and fits with that mindset. But ironically I harm myself most over my weight, eg I once carved 'fat cow' into my stomach with a pair of scissors.

Now I have 2 daughters I am terrified of passing on my thoughts about my body image and eating to them. I want them to see me maintaining a healthy lifestyle, eating well with treats in moderation, exercising for pleasure and being positive, dressing well and taking care of myself no matter my size. But it is so hard to implement. I know how to eat healthily and about nutrition and what is good for me as a woman with PCOS. I know it will be beneficial to my long term health to eat a low carb, low sugar diet and maintain that. I know that my negative thoughts about my body and my low self esteem come from my mother. But I can't make myself stop thinking these negative thoughts. I can't approach a healthy lifestyle in a positive way, as a good thing I am doing for myself and my family. I feel resentful of the PCOS, deprived and sulky. I spiral into self-abusive comments, call myself useless, a failure, a waste of space. I fantasize about cutting my tummy.

How do I address the gap between what my rational mind understands (these negative thoughts come from my upbringing, a healthy lifestyle will be beneficial) and what my emotional self feels (waaaaa I want the cake it's not fair, why can't I have the cake, I shouldn't have the cake, just eat the cake, now look you fat bitch you've eaten the cake, you can't do anything right)?

It is so exhausting thinking about food constantly. I want to eat, I shouldn't eat, what can I eat... I just want to break this cycle and think about food normally!^

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OldBooks · 15/08/2017 07:04

It's ok user. I know what you mean. I think you have had a very shitty time and you use vaping/eating to help calm yourself or fill an emotional hole. You weren't hungry or in need of nicotine. You were in need of comfort xx

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Veryflummoxed · 15/08/2017 10:45

User and sunshine Flowers. Your posts are so thoughtful Oldbooks. Just to add that while BC does appear strict, and it's easy to fall by the wayside it does, after a while, really reduce the cravings, and when they come they get easier to ignore. I definitely eat to make myself feel better and consider myself to have an addictive personality and honestly believe that certain foods are addictive. But bootcamp has given me back an enormous amount of self control. I have very slow weight loss, but it is weight loss and I see this woe as long term. I agree re not wanting to post on BC when I've not eaten well. I usually wait till I am eating well again and then fess up. Although a lot of people on the thread appear to find it easy and have massive losses there are also loads more struggling some of them long termers too. Good luck and yes you are definitely worth it.

Veryflummoxed · 15/08/2017 10:49

Sorry can I just add, that Oldbooks is quite right when she says if double cream Orleans something similar is what you want have it, if you want lots have lots. You might find yourself eating way more that you need at first but if it is low carb food and you are otherwise low carbing you will eventually start to reduce without even noticing

Userwithoutaname · 15/08/2017 17:25

Thanks everyone Smile That's what I'll do.

I had an interesting conversation with my counsellor today about self image and the effect parents have. My mum is always quick to tell me I've put on weight but I don't remember her ever telling me I look pretty or anything remotely like that. And I wasn't even aware of that until the counsellor asked Sad

JMJ1 · 15/08/2017 20:54

Please look into Nourishing Traditions and the work of Weston A Price. I don't think many people have the full picture when it comes to nutrition anymore.

Userwithoutaname · 16/08/2017 01:26

Thanks JMJ1 I'll have a look.

Llareggub · 02/09/2017 19:14

Hello, thank you for the direction over here from the other thread. I am in my early 40s and have been an emotional eater all my life. My mother was a big influence. GOT away with it in my teens as I was very active and fit.

During my 20s and early 30s I lived a very fun life, lots of drinking and partying and the weight piled on. I was diagnosed with PCOS but managed two children. Lost a lot of weight when pregnant with number 2 as i was diagnosed with gestational diabetes. Through a very strict diet I ended up lighter at 38 weeks than I was as the start, which I maintained afterwards through lots of running and exercise. Unfortunately my marriage broke down and I ended up as a lone parent. Of course I fell back into my old ways and the weight piled back on.

Two years ago I started exercising again but didnt change my eating habits. When alone I would eat huge tubs of ice cream and my favourite big bags of bacon crisps.

Two weeks ago my boyfriend asked why despite my gym going, PT and diet (ha, if only he knew!) i hadnt lost any weight. I was upset by his question and stopped speaking to him and really thought about it. I told him about the Secret Eating and started crying; I hadnt really admitted it to anyone before.

He is away for work for a month so I decided to tackle the problem. The month was really about setting myself a target, it isn't about him. So I decided to do the following:

tell my PT why our exercise plan wasnt working (he was hugely supportive)

Adopt the low carb high fat thing which I know works for me

Journal every day and set goals and review regularly. This has been massively motivational, I would recommend

That's kind of it for now. Since I started on 21 August I have lost a shade under 8 pounds. I have more energy, I am sleeping better and my skin is improving. When the cravings start I have been cleaning, so my house is better too.

Llareggub · 02/09/2017 19:16

Oh I forgot, I am working the steps too. My exH is an alcoholic so I know quite a bit about the 12 steps so I am working through them on my own but eating related. i have also downloaded a book about CBT too.

OldBooks · 03/09/2017 19:45

Flowers Llaregub, it sounds like you are doing really well to tackle it. I think this woe really helps emotional eating as you learn to separate real hunger from emotional hunger without the complexities of blood sugar crashes etc stopping you understanding your body's needs. Quite a few of us on the thread have PCOS and this woe is supposed to be really helpful

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Veryflummoxed · 10/09/2017 07:28

Llareggub you sound very much back in control. Good luck. I think admitting to the secret eating to your partner must have been a very courageous thing to do and a huge forward step Flowers

Llareggub · 10/09/2017 10:05

Thanks both. I am two weeks in now and have lost 5kg. The emotional stuff has been quite strange; it is almost like a switch has flipped.

Veryflummoxed · 10/09/2017 10:07

Like a switch has flipped. I totally get that. And when it's flipped one way it's almost impossible to imagine it flipping back the other way.

Llareggub · 10/09/2017 10:27

I told myself I would only do this until my boyfriend gets home. He is due back on the 21St but I now plan to keep it going. Like you say, it is hard to imagine it flipping the other way now.

OldBooks · 10/09/2017 12:12

it is hard to imagine it flipping the other way now.

I think that's why my emotional eating on holiday has really got to me. Because I thought that switch had flipped and I was really on top of it. Seems that small triggers are manageable but the giant trigger that is my dear mother still needs work!!

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Veryflummoxed · 11/09/2017 02:29

Oldbooks I hope you're finding it easier to be back on track now you're home again. Flowers

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