Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - the final weigh in!

[BIWI]

Good morning everyone!

I hope you're all still with us, to come and add your final weigh-in to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

Or, on the Weight Tracker

It seems like there have been some really good losses on this Bootcamp, and so for you all!

Hope you all have a very good week

From what I've seen on the Paleo/Primal sites you can be allergic/intolerant to lactose or casein (or maybe both) which is why sufferers can eat some stuff and not others. Lactose is milk sugar so theres far less in double cream or butter which are almost pure fat. Casein is a milk protein so Lactofree wont work if you are allergic to casein. For those OK with the dairy stuff in general except for it causing stalls then butter is fine even on UberCamp.

The whole dairy thing is odd. Definitely. I've often wondered if it's something to do with the fat vs lactose ratios. Ie I'm ok with more fatty versions of dairy? Who knows. I've never bothered with testing as I know they can't test for intolerances so well. I know I can't eat some stuff so that's kinda okay. I don't have a dairy intolerance as such, I just can't eat some stuff without reacting badly to it. It's not too much of a problem though as I've never enjoyed milk or cheese, so wonder if there's always been an underlying 'thing' there.

I know fat is a big part of this way of eating and I love butter, so maybe will just use that unless there is another reason not too.

I just need help with what forms of meats like ham and bacon and sausages to buy. I know they're not ideal everyday, but would help me loads knowing I have some easier options of foods to have,iykwim?

Thanks again for your help.
Xxx

Ooooh Miffy. Have you just solved my conundrum? I think you might have.

I didn't know about that. I have tried lacto free before and that would explain why I've had the same issue as with. Or all milk.

I've spoken to my gp about this and he didn't even explain that to me.

Thankyou for posting that. I've always felt a bit of an oddball so helps to know there may actually be a reason rather than me just being bonkers.

Or all = normal. Sorry, stupid ipad autocorrects.

Sorry miffy49. My first post after yours was a cross post with yours. They second one after yours was after I read yours. Xxx

SayraT's post from another thread

Thanks, I had hoped to lose more but I am happy with my loss and that I've been able to maintain between times. Good practice for when I get to my goal

Breakfast

Eggs (boiled, scrambled, poached, fried, omelette)
Mushrooms
Bacon
Sausages
FF Greek yogurt (with berries after the initial 2 week strict phase)
BPC (bullet proof coffee - coffee with coconut oil, butter and cream)
Coconut porridge (desiccated coconut, ground almonds, coconut milk and cream)
Leftovers from dinner

Lunch

Tuna mayo with lettuce (use lettuce like a wrap)
Salad with chicken/salmon/mackerel/whatever
Vegetable soup
Leftovers from dinner

Dinner

Courgetti spaghetti (courgette made into strips with a julienne peeler or noodles with a spiralizer) with the usual things you would have pasta with:

Carbonara
Bolognese
Chicken and bacon
Etc

CauliRice (cauliflower blitzed into 'rice') with things you would normally have with rice:

Curry
Chilli
Risotto
Etc

Pork chops/lamb/steak/chicken with vegetables
Roast chicken
Celeriac (mashed, chips, dauphinoise) instead of potato

You can make any meal a low carb meal it just takes a bit of practice and we have lots of recipes on the Recipe Thread to give you inspiration.

Desserts

Crumble (made with berries and an almond topping) with cream
Chocolate pots
Whipped cream and berries

I'm sure there are more but I always make crumble, its delicious.

Snacks (after a bit you don't need any)

Babybel
Cheese
Nuts - not too many
Dark (70% +) chocolate - not too much
Nut butters (cashew is my favourite)
Pepperami
Boiled eggs

It is easy to eat LC and once you get used to it eating out is also easier, you just need to ask for what you want. It took me a while to feel confident enough to ask but now that I can its never been a problem.

"Could I have extra veg instead of potatoes please?"

"Could I have cream with my coffee instead of milk?"

Hope this all helps

hi everyone, thought it was about time for a bit of LC food porn.
So I've made a few pork scratchings for the festive period happy days

I have Linwoods cereal for breakfast sometimes. They do quite a few flavours. It's ground flaxseed, ground nuts with different extras like berries and one is chocolate. Very very low carb but yummy served warm with cream.

You have to also remember that Lactofree is a complete lie it is NOT lactose free it is Lactose reduced It is something that really annoyed me for years. Haven't read the packing for a while because of it but if you are in any doubt about lactose tollerance I would suggest you still avoid the lactofree and try the options that are completely milk free. Especially as I can't tollerate the lactofree and am not allergic to milk protein as have been tested so it is not entirely a surprise if you have tried it but have still reacted.

Mmm, pork scratchings

I wonder what people think of me compiling a list of things you can eat for each meal and adding it to the spreadsheet. Do you think it would have helped you at the beginning when you started out and were stuck for something to make?

I know that there are lots of recipes on the recipe thread but its quite long. If we had a list of meals then people could search the recipe thread to see if that meal was on there (or I could mark them with a * so you knew oyu could find it there)?

If you think it is a good idea please just start a list or give me breakfast/lunch/dinner/dessert/snack ideas and I will put it all together.

SayraT, you're amazing! That would be so so helpful for me. Thankyou.

I've just realised this is actually the final weigh in for the current bootcamp. Sorry to hijack it with all my questions.

Good luck to everyone for the final weigh in and also hope you all have an amazing Christmas break and see you in the new year.

Thanks Bitchytakesonmanagement. I know I'm not allergic and hadn't realised that there was the casein and/or lactose issue. It's definitely good to know and am very grateful to Miffy upthread for posting that info.

No its fine Newbie we have done our final (official) weigh-in this is now just our chat thread to tide us over to the next BC.

I second SayraT we are just keeping up the chat and support between the end of one boot camp and the start of the next. So you are perfectly welcome to come chat and ask questions.

Sayra - that sounds fantastic. Thank you very much!

Mmm those scratchings look good pisses. My butcher has offered to start giving me pork rind/fat to my own...will take him up on that when the Chrimbo madness has passed as I love them. Making do with mr porky for now...not as many additives as the 'pub' ones which are a bit minging.
Good list sayrat thanks for that. Might give coconut porridge a go as finally had enough of fftotal n cream or warm egg mayo deluxe..

Ok, here is a link to the first draft of Low Carb Meal Ideas. The things marked * can be found on the Recipe Thread so you can search that to find the recipe. The others are just ideas and you will need to work them your yourselves

If anyone has suggestions for other meal ideas then please add them to the recipe thread and let me know what they are.

How would people prefer the ideas to be laid out, do you want me to sort the main meals into chicken/beef/vegetarian/fish etc or is it ok the way it is?

Should I have another symbol to mark things that are not strictly BC but ok on BCLite or as a one off special occasion thing? I don't want new LCers to think weyhey I can eat chocolate pots every night for dessert or anything like that.

I think I am going to print this off to help me in the New Year to keep me get me back on track and to add new things to my repertoire, I've got a bit boring and samey recently.

How about BC - bold whereas BCLight = non-bold?

That list is looking good SayraT Newbies often struggle for ideas. Good idea to mark things that are more for BC Light too. Don't want anyone getting too carried away!

I've just made some almond butter squares that look like a poor mans version of millionaires shortbread. I will check it out over the holiday and if its nice I'll post the recipe. It will be a BCLight or special occasion thing I think as it has some sweetener in it.

My low carb, gluten free, dairy free chocolate cake is in the oven. I tried a bit of the mix and am feeling a bit bleurgh, which may just be tiredness or it may have been a mistake to experiment on Christmas Eve

List is a brilliant idea, Sayra, one of the things about LCing is that I have already tried new foods, which is in itself a good thing.

Sayra that is a fabulous idea. It will really help those who are new and struggling for ideas.

I would like to wish all bootcampers a fabulous Christmas.

happy christmas all!

just had a lunch to fit a king, brussels sprouts broccoli and stilton - I'm watching counting the carb count today but its just so yum

hows it going all?

My allowed breadsauce gave me stomach ache and tummy problems and the roast potato was bleurgh and left. sugar otoh is still a problem but less so than in previous years

Only problem is the pre-arranged 2nd christmas that i have in a few days. Ah the joys of people all over the place. Least ds is now home.

Hi, hope everyone is enjoying Christmas!

All fine here on the food front, but the house is chaos, so I need to get on top of that over the weekend. The chocolate cake effort got a bit overdone, but is yummy, probably a bit too yummy. It is more like a flat brownie than a cake though, so the recipe needs some tweaks.

I have a question, if you don't mind, for those of you who do intermittent fasting with boot camp - what do you normally do and how did you find out what worked?

Romey I think 14:10 is the best form of IF to use with Bootcamp. It's the period of fasting that's important rather than the period in which you eat so I would wait 14 hours between my last meal of one day and my first meal of the next day. So if I had dinner at 6 p.m. then I could have breakfast any time after 8 a.m. Whereas if I had a late night snack at 9 p.m. then I would have brunch at 11 a.m. Effectively you end up having a larger first meal of the day and a normal size dinner. It isn't necessary to fast every day so I went by my hunger - if I was hungry when I woke up then I didn't have a fast day so unusually ended up doing four or five fast days a week. Men can do 16:8 so fast for 16 hours but for pre-menopausal women 14 hours is better to avoid impacting hormonal balance. When you're eating this way it can be hard to get enough fat into your day so I found bulletproof coffee a valuable addition each day.