Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

[BIWI]

Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

very quick. will pop in properly later. THE SCALES HAVE STARTED MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION

collete Yy I have had zero bastard movement for the entire bootcamp. even went up last week, despite religiously following rules and BIWIS advice. However, this week myself and some others have embarked on a strict no dairy except butter regime, as dairy is a staller for some, and it's totally working for me. I could see my fanjo peeping from under my tum when I went for a pee this morning too!

back later losers xx

Thanks trashcan- cutting dairy ? will think about it, could start with the cream and cheese. Yoghurt is a staple of breakfast

Colette how was your eating before bootcamp? Some people don't see a loss at first because they were eating a low calorie diet before low carbing or because their gut needs to heal before weight loss begins.

Great news trashcan ... Think I may have to need to try no dairy for a while then as my scales not on a downward trend (up and down like a yo-yo between 11st 7 and 11st 9 but never below the 7....)
Twill be hard as now addicted to cream in my coffee every morning BUT before I try ditching the cream, I'm going to stop buying chocolate. I find I can't stop at 1 or 2 pieces (even the 85% bitter stuff) if it's sitting in the cupboard. Ha! No wonder those scales haven't been moving... Hv scoffed two big bars of the stuff over the last week.

I've not been able to keep up with fast-moving thread so only had a skim read through. A few were mentioning skin issues. I find now that if I go off piste with too much chocolate or wine, I get bright red rash across the bridge of my nose and onto my cheeks. Is that rosacea (no spots, just redness)?

Doing slow-cooked lamb shoulder today as working from home. Going to have with green veg and either celeriac or bashed/mashed swede.

Keep on all!

Pisci Kashmiri

Trashcan glad you like it.

Piste to you for donating platelets.

Ooh Stunt how exciting to be able to make your own sausages! If you used fattier cuts of meat would that not eliminate the dryness? There must be recipes online, no?

Durham you sound as though you're buzzing this morning.

MrsR and Southsea welcome (back) and on your weight loss.

Sayra I'd have the curry you fancy, try to get the lower carb sides, stay away from bhajis etc and just drink lots of water and back on the wagon afterwards. For this WOE to be sustainable you have to be able to have the odd treat when eating out, I think.

Welcome TeaOne.

at Trash's peeping fanjo!

Sorry link fail Pisci Kashmiri chicken

I've been feeling tired and with no energy at all since Monday. Tried BC light on Monday and Tuesday and I really shouldn't have. I ate handfuls of nuts and chocolate to make myself feel better and yesterday I ate cake. Today I am back to the strict boot camp and I hope there wasn't too much movement into the wrong direction on the scales.

Googoo yes it could be rosacea. Good video about it here

StuntNun , my eating before bootcamp was quite carby;still had all the xmas goodies kicking about . Low cal leaves me starving .
I am eating more veg than ever before and am nowhere near as hungry so want to continue thos woe but just need a small loss !

Morning all!
Such a positive vibe from the thread last night and this morning :)

StuntNun it's very interesting that you're a biochemist and have had a U-turn, whilst I don't have the pure science background (was never very good at it) in my clinical practice and in my thinner days I worked for a professor of diabetology who did obesity clinics in the days when there weren't as many of them - and he used to advise that you couldn't overeat carbs if you didn't put fat on them - so plain potatoes, butter-less bread, etc was what he advocated - it was putting fat on them that led to overeating. Now whilst for a person with a normal BMI that may be true, I believed that as gospel in obesity for years and it and the other things I learned from him were what I repeated to patients in my turn. There is so much poor information. Briffa's book had me hooked, and I'm now into Volek and Phinney and finding it utterly scientific and it now seems obvious. How this will affect my practice... I don't know. I'd feel comfortable to people who asked about it (it's not my field at all now, many of my patients are too sick to be worrying about weight loss) I'd probably feel comfortable saying "have you thought about adopting a LC WOE". Much to think about.

Chester how can you be disappointed you haven't lost in 2 days ? Your response to me when I asked after you last week was so positive - your eating was under better control than ever with only 3 wobbly days. When you've got your long term focus hat on... aren't you happier?

ChippingIn it must be sooooo frustrating. And feel rather limiting. Are you eating enough

OK, no dairy tomorrow. I will get some nice butter and do BPC.

Morning campers!
I am still keeping on. Have resigned myself to sloooow loss now I have less to lose and have been doing this for a good while now, bit it is so satisfying when you get on the scales and there's a definite loss that now means you're in a whole new stone as it were... first time I've been in the 12 stone bracket for oooh, 12 years. Marvellous.

FFyoghurt and berries, tea with splash of milk
left over from supper bolognese sauce with green salad, avocado
grilled lamb chops rubbed with ras el hanout, with minted feta and broccoli, courgettes plus butter
YUM.

Crabby I'm quite unreasonably excited about homemade sausages as well. We tried it before with the Lakeland kit but, although they were nice, it was awfully hard work. My BIL bought us a mincer with a sausage making attachment for Christmas so hopefully that will be much easier. I have two pork shoulders and a pork belly and enough skins to fill the freezer with sausages.

Not so much a u-turn LittleMiss as that the party lines on calories in = calories out, eat less move more, saturated fat is bad, etc. are presented as absolute truths and anyone that says different is so marginalised that you never even eat about it. Atkins sounds like a fad when all you know about it is bacon and eggs for breakfast, steak for dinner. But from what I've read about it there's so much more to it that the mainstream media ignored.

Messed up - have been sneakily having a couple of sugar-free sweets (rhubarb & custard ones from M&S) and just looked at the packet - although they are sugar free they are also somehow nearly 90g carbs per 100g!!! They rest have gone in the bin! That'll teach me I suppose.

I went to the doctors about my lurgy yesterday and she told me that I was dehydrated which was a big shock, I've been averaging 2-3 litres of water a day, so clearly need more!

trashcan hooray for the right direction!

Food for me today:
Greek yog
Few pork scratchings at my desk
Chicken & mushroom soup

Dinner will be roast chicken drumsticks, celeriac chips and coleslaw I think.

I have pork belly slices for tomorrow and fancied making them Chinese-style to have with a big pile of stir fried cabbage and courgette - normally I'd add honey but thought soy and 5 spice would work?

heir the carb count will likely be the polyols (sugar alcohols), so while they count as carbs their impact on blood sugar and therefore insulin release is much less. however they can impede weight loss (they do for me - they probably do cause an insulin release in my case) and if consumed in more than very small quantities make themselves known in the digestive system! have you read this which someone posted on here a few weeks ago! hilarious and also a dire warning!

Hello MsRinky ! Good to see you again

And hurray for trashcan's newly-visib le fanjo (I know exactly what you mean)

You know when you're on your own aand eat a meal that you would never eat in polite company?

Well I've just scarfed a bowl of chopped frankfurters and avocado mixed up with mayo. Mmmm, gourmet.

I've scored a reduced pork joint from Asda and plan on slow cooking it for dinner in some way when inspiration hits me. Five spicedm maybe..

Just shouting my shit...

I've lost 2lbs since Monday (having lost 4lb on week 1, none on week 2 and put on a lb last week). This takes me to 10st 13lb, which is the same as I was at my lowest last year (25th Oct) after doing 2 bootcamps (putting a bit back on in between).

So I was 12st 9lb in May last year, lost 20lbs on the summer bootcamp to get to 11st 3lb, and then got down to 10st 13lb on the autumn bootcamp to have lost 24lbs (with fluctuations in between).

This WOE works!

That's the lowest weight I've been since summer 2011 when I got down to 10st 10lb, and the lowest recorded on the wii is in December 2009 when I was 10st 9lb. The wii weight graph since then is like the profile of a mountain range, the peaks and valleys getting ever higher from left to right until I started bootcamping. I'd lost weight eating low GI several times before, but found it difficult to exercise moderation (very all or nothing addictive personality, me) and would find the sugary shit creeping back in quite quickly.

The support of these threads helps enormously too, so to you all and especially to BIWI.

Crabby well done you .

G'day!

Today has been difficult, as spent entirely too long on a fucking train (broken down freight train in front of ours, held us up for nearly 2 hours, and the normal journey is 2h long each way anyway! That's 6 hours on a sodding train).

So:
B - cheese slice
s - parmesan crackers, babybel cheese
L - tuna salad with lettuce, cucumber, shredded carrot, coriander
s - another babybel and a teeny mini protein bar

Yogurt am crying at my desk at that link. Perfect cure for LC blockages I reckon"

Want to add that my small loss on the autumn bootcamp was due to me discovering almond pastry and eating tarts and crumbles made with it every day. I'm fairly near goal weight (8lbs to go) so was finding it difficult to summon up the motivation to stop stuffing my face from noon til night when it just tasted sooooooo lovely.

Also, the gain between bootcamps was due to me eating no end of carby shit, so entirely my own fault.

Oooh, well done Crabby, you've done amazingly well.

Hmmm. Rubs chin thoughtfully. So instead of waiting and waiting for the woosh fairy I could just buy me some gummi bears if I don't have to leave the house / do anything for a couple of days...?!
That link is hilarious.

Re: gummi bears... similar, albeit not so explosive, results can be reported by the consumption of Dominion Sugar Free Spearmit Mints, available at every reputable Aldi in the land.

Fresh breath and a tidy colon... what's not to like?