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why is my child worth £5 a week?

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Bongobaby · 14/06/2010 12:26

i,m at my wits end with the csa. xp pays stupid amount of £5 child support.cos he,s skint,spiteful and doesn,t want to take responsibility for our child. he,s not skint just wants to be in control. why does the government let these feckless dads get away with it?anybody in their right mind knows it takes alot more than £5 a week for a child to live on.jesus christ if we as mums let our kids live on just that £5 a week.the kids wouldn,t be alive to tell the tale. they would starve to death. its called neglect. if a mum done it we would end up in prison. so why blatenly is a father allowed to get away with neglect over and over.its time this national scandle was brought to the attention of government. and then maybe our benefits system won,t be so high.because as single mums.don,t believe thats our title either. we are sperated parents. meaning the onus is on both parents.we have no choice but to rely on the state.because the state does sweet F.A to secure proper father payments for our kids.cars pay more to enter the congestion charge each day £8 than fathers pay for their kids of £5 a week. wheres the sense/priority in that david cameron??

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EleanorHandbasket · 14/06/2010 12:29

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mjinhiding · 14/06/2010 12:31

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Fruitysunshine · 14/06/2010 12:31

My child was worth zero for years before my now DH adopted my daughter. Now I don't have to deal with my horrible, nasty EXH or the CSA!

Bongobaby · 14/06/2010 12:39

Still don,t understand that we just swallow this crap. its not right they are allowed to get away with it. it seems to be standard and acceptable way of life. the 'that,s your lot so get on with it' attitude. no wonder these feckless losers have time to climb motorway gantrys.and protest they are fathers for justice. they have all the time in the world on their hands!! and no time to earn money to put food in their kids mouths.meanwhile we get slagged off as them single mums scum. is it big or clever to say your skint just to get out of paying whats right for your kids?

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muggglewump · 14/06/2010 12:43

Mine's worth £120 a month, which would be great if tossing ex would actually pay the money.

HappyMummyOfOne · 14/06/2010 12:49

Both mums and dads can be the non resident parent so its unfair to just slate one sex.

Both parents should financially provide for their child, it seems ok to slate the absent parent if they are not working but fine to claim benefits if the PWC is not working - double standards.

If parents are separated, then both should contribute financially by working.

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CubaCat · 14/06/2010 13:14

The system certainly does suck. I chased the CSA for 3 years before finally getting some child support from the ex just before DS's 3rd birthday a year ago - he pays the princely sum of £6.25 per fortnight. Smashing.

Magalyxyz · 14/06/2010 13:22

£1.20 a week?! That is farcical. mY x contributes nothing but he moans about the price of a cup of coffee and some burgers and chips when he comes to see the children. He does it with a straight face too.

These guys will have to answer to their adult children one day, and I am keeping the bank statements. I see it as a kind of insurance. One day my dc might judge me or question my reasons for leaving their Dad, and I think the fact that he has chosen to contribute nothing while adding to his collection of motorbikes and vehicles will be impossible to defend when they are adults. He doesn't see that though! he thinks one day they will hear his version and 'see' how wicked I am.

Meglet · 14/06/2010 13:25

How do the dads fiddle the system if they are working in a normal PAYE job? Or are they all self-employed on unemployed?

Magalyxyz · 14/06/2010 13:35

Well my x gets 'round it by threatening to have me charged with 'abducting' the children if I pursue him for money. He doesn't want the children, he just wants things to stay as they are now, eg, he gets to spend his money on himself and yet I don't stop him seeing the children, it's perfect for him. I didn't 'abduct' them btw, as there was no court order in place. I did take them to my parents house abroad as he was abusive (physically as well as mentally, financially and verbally) but I have no proof of that, so I wouldn't really want to go to court. His solicitor has sent me some scary letters though, which my solicitor laughed at, but still, it all costs money. And going to court would wreck my head. I have just accepted that he is a poor specimen of a man, it's easier.

ChocHobNob · 14/06/2010 13:40

Non resident parents (again, not always dads) would find it very difficult to fiddle the system if they had a normal PAYE job ... unless they managed somehow to get their bosses to pay them a certain amount in cash but not many organisations will be happy about doing that.

The ones fiddling the system are normally self employed or working cash in hand.

It must be really frustrating when you know that the non resident parent is deliberately staying out of work to avoid maintenance ... but then some people are genuine benefit claimants and if they do not have the money, they cannot pay it out! Single people (including non resident parents) do not get much extra help when on benefits, unlike those with children so £5 a week may be all they can afford.

Plus children are not expected to live on £5 a week. There is also the resident parents contribution towards their own child and also if they are on a low income, they may be receiving benefits meant for the child, so the child will be getting more than £5 a week to live on.

NonnoMum · 14/06/2010 13:41

Think we just have to warn OUR children to not have babies who men who are losers.

The best thing you can do for your child is show them that hard work brings in money and money buys nice things.

Meglet · 14/06/2010 13:41

Some blokes really did crawl out from under rocks didn't they?

muggglewump · 14/06/2010 15:15

My ex is self-employed, and has made up a story about having a breakdown so as not to have to pay.

Fortunately he is in Australia and they don't take that into consideration there (plus they don't believe him and of course he can't prove it, given it is a lie).

The problem is that he is still not paying, and getting the money from him takes rime.
They have to find his money before they can take it, and since they have emptied his bank account to give me the money before, he has, of course, now hidden it better.

He still owes it though, and his debt is getting bigger.

ShirleyKnot · 14/06/2010 15:18

5p per year.

I fucking shit you not. The judge in my divorce case ordered XH to pay me 5 pence per year.

Magalyxyz · 14/06/2010 17:18

what!? That beggars belief. I don't mean I don't believe you, I just mean I am speechless.

Magalyxyz · 14/06/2010 17:21

I think you should go to the papers with that one! shame hm. Shame the idiot judge.

bodgejob · 14/06/2010 18:02

Fucking losers the lot of em.

Lousy government should kick their arses back to work. It's too easy for them to get away with not paying.

My x bastard turned up in brand new motor today when picking up 2 of our three dc. The wanker can't afford to provide for his beautiful kids but theres always money in pot 4 him .

I pretend i'm not arsed but really i'm fuming at the injustice.

Magalyxyz · 14/06/2010 18:24

DC thinks the mothers are the problem... talk of feeling entitled to benefits! What about the fathers? They are the problem. And starting a new family is not an excuse. You don't see mothers saying, well dc1 and dc2, I can't afford you any more now I have dc3 and dc4! Men get away with using this excuse though.

HanBanan · 14/06/2010 18:31

I totally agree. I want to know why tax payers are happy for these shameless parents to get away with it whilst they foot the bill.

You open the paper and there is always a slag off the single mum story but times have not moved on enough for people to get that the absent parent is half responsible to financially bring up the child.

It's not rocket science but socially we have not moved on since women used to have to give up their kids or prositute themselves to make up for absent fathers. The welfare state should not have to step in

And loads of these fellas (and women) lie about their incomes so they don't have to pay up whilst they have detectives tracking the people selling pirate DVDs. Why not track the non-paying parent????!!!

HanBanan · 14/06/2010 18:34

ps my dd's dad thinks she is worth 0. But then I live abroad and he is not on a contract and we are all british citizens so I have no leg to stand on. No 5 quid from the gov here.

Still get people telling me what a 'great dad' he is tho.

Bastards.

Remotew · 14/06/2010 18:35

The 5p a year would be to make sure that if the ex's circs change you would have a stake in that change rather than insulting the family.

OP the benefits the PWC receive are to bring up the children. £5 maintenance is the minimum award and you can get it reassessed if things change in the future. It's not meant to be the amount your child is worth and has to live on.

NETTEYJC · 20/06/2010 16:46

Wish I knew the answer to your question, my sisters partner left her when she was 7 months pregnant, he decided that he didn't want their other 2 children or his unborn baby anymore, the CSA decided that he should pay £7.25 a month because he was so 'hard up' for cash, he has his own business, drives a brand new BMW and goes suba diving regularly in the Maldives ... seems that the CSA back the fathers and allow them to live the high life whilst the mothers are the ones that have to struggle, no justice really is there?

roundthebend4 · 22/06/2010 20:59

mine were worth £2.50 have 2dc each after we split and he went on long term sick.

but hes obvioulsy not that sick as his now gf is expecting and neither of them work and i just been informed that there be cutting my money to £1.25