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in tears @ work, where can I go to get help with CSA?

28 replies

Fizog · 19/10/2004 16:19

Somebody before suggested my MP? how do I find out who that is??

I know this is an on-going saga. I've just been told that my complaint was closed on the 29th September... I wouldn't have closed this as I still have no resolution. I just don't know what to do anymore!

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bundle · 19/10/2004 16:20

put your postcode in here to find your mp

Fizog · 19/10/2004 16:28

thank you bundle.

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bundle · 19/10/2004 16:28

s'aright. have you any help from eg gingerbread? they must be experts at this...

Twinkie · 19/10/2004 16:33

Oh Fiz - what a shitter - have you tried demanding to speak to someone higher up than your case worker??

Do they have a complaints procedure or a body that is supposed to govern them - not asking you this Fiz - does anyone else know??

snmum · 19/10/2004 16:34

what is their excuse? they know where your dd;s dad lives dont they?

Twinkie · 19/10/2004 16:35

Is he employed Fizog - demand that they do a stop out of his earnings - they can go straight to eh employer too if he won't give them info thats what we had to do.

Fizog · 19/10/2004 16:44

no, have been on the gingerbread website and one-parent families site (somebody else pinted me in the direction of that one) I may copy my email that I am (as we speak) writing to my mp.

It just seems so futile, nobody will/can help me. I just get stone walled at every turn. I know it seems like such a small issue but I just feel like it's something I could do without. It's the straw that's breaking my back so to speak.

They got a payment in Spetember but won't/can't give it to me?!?!?!? and have just been told I won't get octobers either. I've had 2 payments in 18 month.

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bundle · 19/10/2004 16:45

fizog, that's pants
why not copy it to bob bloody geldof too?

Fizog · 19/10/2004 16:45

they know everything about him and already have a deductions from earning order on him... I don't know what's going on and they are hiding behind data protection and the fact they xp could be lying to me.

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snmum · 19/10/2004 16:46

if they are getting payments why the fuck cant they give them to you? thats disgusting!!

Fizog · 19/10/2004 16:54

they're saying they're not getting them.

they have been telling me since April that they have a deductions from earning order. yet they are hiding behind Data Protection and can't send me any documentation!

I am at a loss. I have 'faxed' my mp. I don't know what good it will do. I feel like contact in a newspaper or something.

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bundle · 19/10/2004 16:56

does your mp run clinics? you could go and see them personally too.

snmum · 19/10/2004 16:56

you dont speak to the dad at all or his family?

charliecat · 19/10/2004 16:57

If they have had payments from him where is the money? Why are they keeping it?

snmum · 19/10/2004 16:59

exactly, that is the reason i asked if there was contact with his family. i am sure he would be pissed off if his money was going AWOL

Fizog · 19/10/2004 17:01

I have contact with him and his family.

He says their taking it.

thay imply that he could be lying because his employer have confirmed the payments they have made and they are inline with what the csa have received.

and what's in the bl00dy way - the bl00dy data protection act so I am completely unable to get proof of any of this!!

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Fizog · 19/10/2004 17:02

his word against theirs and I have no ability to go direct to his employer.

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Freckle · 19/10/2004 17:02

If you have a complaint about any aspect of the way your case has been dealt with by the CSA, you should initially write to the customer services manager either at the local social security office or at the relevant CSAC (either Hastings, Dudley, Plymouth, etc. - see below).

A complaint should be acknowledged within two working days and you should receive a full reply to your complaint within ten working days. However, in practice, a complaint is likely to take much longer to be dealt with. If your MP makes a complaint on your behalf, this should, however, be treated as a priority and dealt with within 20 working days.

If the you are still not satisfied, you should contact the manager of the CSAC or the CSA area manager. You may also wish to complain to the CSA's Chief Executive or inform your MP (if you haven't already done so). If you are not satisfied with how both the CSA and the CSA's Chief Executive have dealt with the complaint, you can take the complaint to the Independent Case Examiner. If your complaint concerns maladministration by the CSA, you can also make a complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman. However, if you are complaining to the Independent Case Examiner, the Ombudsman will not be able to take up the complaint until the Examiner has reached a decision.

Before complaining to the Examiner, you must have given the CSA an opportunity to settle the complaint. Before approaching the Examiner, you should have received a written reply to your complaint both from the office dealing with your case and from the CSA Chief Executive's office.

The Independent Case Examiner cannot deal with complaints relating to child support legislation, but only about the way in which the CSA has dealt with your case. You may wish to complain, for example, about excessive delays, mistakes, rudeness by CSA staff or the way in which the CSA has exercised its discretion.

The Independent Case Examiner will not normally be able to accept a complaint more than six months after you have received a reply from the CSA Chief Executive's office.

You must make your complaint in writing and should provide as much information as possible, including:-

name, address and telephone number

date of birth

CSA reference number (if known) and the name of the office or centre dealing with your case

details of replies you have already received from the CSA about the complaint

an explanation of what you are dissatisfied about

what you want the CSA to do to settle the complaint.

The Independent Complaints Examiner can be contacted at:-

Independent Case Examiner for the Child Support Agency
PO Box 155
Chester
CH99 9SA

Tel: 0151 801 8800

Child Support Agency Centres

Hastings
Ashdown House
Sedlescombe Road North
St Leonards on Sea
TN37 7NL

Tel: 0845 713 4000

Plymouth
Clearbrook House
Bickleigh Down Business Park
Plymouth
Devon
PL6 7TN

Tel: 0845 713 7000

Dudley
CSA Dudley
Post Handling Dept.
2 Weston Road
Crewe
CW98 1BB

Tel: 0845 713 1000

Birkenhead
CSA Birkenhead
Post Handling Dept.
2 Weston Road
Crewe
CW98 1BB

Tel: 0845 713 8000

bundle · 19/10/2004 17:04

top stuff, freckle!

Fizog · 19/10/2004 17:09

Thank you Freckle. That inforamtion is great. I don't understand it at the moment but thisnk I'm just too emotional right now to take it on board. I'm not sure where I stand as I have made too complaint. they have no record of one even though I spoke to their staff about it and the second they are saying that I closed even though I didn't.

Sorry will read your post again when emotions aren't taking over intelligence brain cells

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Fizog · 19/10/2004 17:09

two complaints even sorry

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bundle · 19/10/2004 17:10

fizog, take it to gingerbread or citizens advice and get them to help you through it, it's no wonder your brain is underpowered, all the stress you're under

Fizog · 19/10/2004 17:12

I just don't physically have the time to keep chasing this up. urgh, I don't even know what to write, where to start I just feel defeated and helpless.

I m so angry and sad and disgusted and bl00dy emotional.

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JuniperDewdrop · 19/10/2004 17:15

fizgog, my dh is a solicitor and he'll help you if you want him to? You can always CAT me if you want him to help with your letter.
(((hugs)))

Fizog · 19/10/2004 17:20

I wrote to my MP as soon as bundle posted the link about how to find out who he was. In retrospect I think I shuold have waited until I had calmed down. ho hum, I guess at worst I have reinforced the stereo-type that single mothers are emotionally unstable and ill-educated

Hopefully it wasn't too bad, I did even proof read it - damn. Why am I so hot-headed

I guess I'm just left to wait again.

I would seek legal advice but I can't afford a solicitor and I am not entitled to legal aid (not sure how there can be a loop-hole like that but apparently there is)

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