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how do i respond to this? i am so pissed off i'm not being rational.

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IAmBooyhoo · 12/05/2012 17:06

i've posted numerous times before about EXp and how he constantly lets the dcs (and me tbh) down wrt not turning up for contact or turning up late or dropping them back late or giving vague times for when he will be here etc.

so yesterday evening he asked what the dcs were doing today. i told him we were going to the cinema and it would be over by 2pm so he said he would ring me at 2.15 to arrange collecting them. we got out of the cinema at 1.30 so went for lunch and got back home at 2.20pm. there was a text on my phone simply asking if we were home yet so i replied straight away saying yes we are at home now. (exp lives less than 10 minutes drive away) it got to 2.55pm and no reply or sign of him so i texted asking what time he would be here for the dcs. not that's it's relevant to him but my friend is coming over this evening and i was planning on having the 'dcs free' time to get the house cleaned as it really needs it before friend can come over. he didn't reply.

i texted again asking the same thing at 3.15pm he didn't reply so i phoned and he didn't answer but 2 minutes after i phoned he sent a text asking if dcs could stay over at his house. this is the first time and he has been making excuses as to why it couldn't happen so of course i said yes and again asked what time he would be in for the dcs. we packed their bags and dcs got all excited. exp didnt reply to the message even though i sent it straight after he had texted me so he was waiting on an answer and would have checked his phone.

by 3.45pm i was really annoyed that yet again i was sitting waiting for him to arrive before i could get on and do my stuff. it is always the same always me hanging about the house never knowing what time he will turn up and in teh past MNers have suggested i just not be in the house for the day so that he is kept waiting so at 3.45 i got the dcs into the car and we went to a local harbour to watch the boats. at 4pm he sent a message saying "i dont suppose you could leave the kids out?" well i ignored it. i know how childish that is but i never ignore his texts wrt to teh dcs i always respond and i make it so the dcs can go everytime he asks even if it has meant in the past cancelling arrangements we have made but this time i thought why the hell should i? he ignores me except when it suits him to respond. about 20 minutes later he rang and i ignored it.

he then sent another message saying he had no car available. it's a glorious day here, he lives directly on the bus route to where we live and he could get a taxi, or he could walk the 1 minute walk to his mum's and borrow hers which he usually does or he could ask a friend. what he meant is that there was no car directly outside his front door that he could access without any effort. well i ignored that message too. he sent another message about 20 minutes ago saying "why exactly is it you are doing this?" i haven't replied yet. i dont know what to reply. i'm still so furious. i can't get on with cleaning teh house while 2 year old is still here. i'm so sick of being so bloody available for him to just saunter in when he feels like being a dad. no -one transports my dcs to me, i go and get them.

i was tempted to reply "have a think about why i am doing this" but that's just silly isn't it?

what so i do to get my point across to him that he cant do this anymore? i cant cope with it. it isn't fair on me. and i know thsi is about the dcs but i am entitled to be able to make plans and expect to be able to keep them. so many times i have had to let my freinds down at the last minute because he hasn't turned up and it isn't fair he gets to arrange his children around whatever else he wants to do and i get to (hopefully) arrange what i wnat to do arround my children, which is how it should be when you are a parent. he picks them up like a magazine when he has nothing else to do.

i'm just so pissed off.

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BreakOutTheKaraoke · 12/05/2012 20:33

I have a lot of these issues with the ex. I have never managed to die him down for collecting, but for dropping off time I have found I tell him a time, he obviously tries to change it, mess up my plans, etc. I now tell him (or did when he bothered seeing DD) that I would be at home between 6-6.30pm or whatever, after that I would bugger off out, and he would be having DC for the night. The thought of actually having to have a saturday night with his child meant he was always on time.

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:26

i need help with wording again. sorry.

i texted exp saying " i need to know dates and times that you will be collecting and dropping off the dcs for the rest of may" (that is when he has told me he goes back to work (forces))

he has replied saying "why do you want specifics"

i know why i want specifics but i dont know firstly whether i should even have to justify myself and secondly how to phrase it so that he realises just how inconsiderate it is just to turn up as and when he pleases.

can anyone help me with this?

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fuckarama · 16/05/2012 10:31

If you do not provide me with the dates and times by 5pm today I will make whatever arrangements for me and the dcs that suit me.

Don't explain. Don't justify.

fuckarama · 16/05/2012 10:31

And if he comes back with some arsehole comment, just reply with "your comments are duly noted"

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:38

thanks fucks. texting now. next step is solicitor if he arses me about with this. which i'm 100% sure he will.

does anyone know if legal aid still exists? i am on Income support.

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titchy · 16/05/2012 10:38

Just say 'Otherwise we could be out and you would have wasted a journey'

fuckarama · 16/05/2012 10:41

Ignore ignore ignore and make him take you to court.

You can show you were being reasonable - keep the texts, don't delete them and even follow up with an email.

Just so you have a paper trail.

No court in the land is going to expect you and your DCs to be available 24/7 at his whim.

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:41

ok i said. "need dates and times by end of today otherwise i cant guarantee dcs will be available."

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IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:44

that's the thing fucks. i bend over backwards to make them available 24/7 whenever he wants and he will turn up, see them for 2 hours and not even ring them for another 10 days. i would far rather he saw them every weekend, regular times where they would see far more of him but he just doesn't bother unless he has a free afternoon from his busy schedule of er, being on holiday Hmm

i couldn't go 10 days without seeing my dcs when they were a 10 minute drive away. if it goes to court i will make it absoloutely clear that i want him to have them more than he is bothering at the minute.

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mistlethrush · 16/05/2012 10:50

I would make sure this is not about 'you' but about the children. You need to know when he's going to have them because its not good for the kids to spend all day everyday inside, waiting just in case their dad cba to spend some time with them. They need to be out in the park, doing everyday 'outside' things like shopping etc. So, you could say that you don't want to be out for the day when he suddenly decides that he wants to see them.

I would also call his bluff on the drop offs - 'If you haven't dropped them here by 7pm I will assume that you're keeping them overnight and will go out'. Make sure this is written down. Similarly for the pick ups 'if you're not here by 2pm I will be taking them out because we need to do some shopping / whatever'. All this couched in terms that you want to facilitate access, but can't put both your childrens (and incidentally your own) lives on hold just in case he can bother to see them.

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:51

he has replied saying "what's the reason? are teh boys bus this month or something?"

do i even reply? i've given him my reason surely? he knows what i need from him. it will go round in circles wont it?

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IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:52

sorru, that should be "are the boys busy this month"

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fuckarama · 16/05/2012 10:53

IamBoo - I mean this in the nicest possible way.

And I am talking from bitter hard-earned experience. and I'm probably old enough to be your mother as well

You need to put strong boundaries in place for yourself and your own well-being, your own mental wellness, so that this man doesn't walk all over you.

He's doing this because he has you so conditioned to keep him happy, do what he wants, be afraid of him and what he might do.

Get yourself a set of MN Balls firmly strapped on and start to stand up for yourself {{hugs}}

No court is going to object to planned, regular contact for him. No court is going to expect you to be sitting on tenderhooks not knowing when he's coming or not.

fuckarama · 16/05/2012 10:55

x-posts!

Re-send the last text but put "I repeat" at the start of it.

Then ignore any others.

And if he gets arsey, send "your comments are duly noted" and then ignore.

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 10:58

yes i totally agree with you. i am terrified of getting back into a situation where i am being dragged through court and solicitors and him making life hell. but you know what i have been there before and i survived it. i can do it again and i know i have a right to expect to know when contact will be taking place. i am quite happy to go back to court this time. i can handle it this time and it wont have been me that was being obstructive. surely a solicitor will tell him he has to give times? and it wouldn't even get to court? i cant imagine a solicitor advising his client to go to court to defend his right not to give a pick up or drop off time.

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fuckarama · 16/05/2012 10:58

Or if you want to get right up his nose you could send

"We are no longer a couple. Please explain why you feel my reasons are any concern of yours"

Or if you want to get even further up his nose, "please direct any further correspondence to fuckarama. Her email address is [email protected] She will be delighted to enlighten you as to why my reasons are fuck all to do with you"

Grin
LowFlyingBirds · 16/05/2012 10:59

You have my sympathies, i have similar issues with ex.

Its hard to remain firm and detached, i struggle with that as he isnt a'bad' person, actually is a great dad and i donr feel its malicious eventhough i know i would view it that way ifsomeone else was in that position.

Im reading about your ex and thinking 'god, he's being so manipulative...what a cock!' but find it hard to apply the same thoughts to my ex even though he does almost the same thing Confused

Youre doing well, and your messages to him are great.

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 11:00

repeat message sent.

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fuckarama · 16/05/2012 11:01

No judge in the land is going to tell you that you are being unreasonable to ask for pick up and drop off times. And expect them to be stuck to.

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 11:01

"please direct any further correspondence to fuckarama. Her email address is [email protected] She will be delighted to enlighten you as to why my reasons are fuck all to do with you"

oh i love this! Grin i so wish i could do that.

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IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 11:02

he's replied saying " just find this a bit weird. you've never asked me thsi before"

i'm not replying.

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fuckarama · 16/05/2012 11:04

Go you!

I'd first of all not tell the boys when he's coming coz he's a manipulative messer.

Think of it this way, what's the worst he can do?

Turn up to see the boys, if you're not in, you're not in.

If he's late to pick them up by more than 30 mins, go out.

If he texts, ignore.

If he's late bringing them back with no contact or advance warning, give him 30 mins then text "You are x amount late back with the boys, if you are not here by x time then I will call the police as you have breached the agreement we had with regard to return times"

I'm sure there's loads of wiser MNetters than me can tell you more as well!

IAmBooyhoo · 16/05/2012 11:04

or maybe i should just send "by the end of today please" to remind him it's still necessary to provide the times even though he hasn't had a reason?

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mistlethrush · 16/05/2012 11:04

He's noticed the MNBalls - well done!

fuckarama · 16/05/2012 11:05

IGNORE IGNORE DO NOT REPLY

he's goading you to get you to cave in

Think of him as a whiny 2 year old Wink why mummy why why why

Just because you said so.

end of.