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WWYD? WRT XP and his girlfriend?

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portaloo · 20/12/2010 22:22

Have had problems with XP and his g/f before, but it's reached a whole new level.

I'll try to keep it brief. Xmas Smile

Court order in place which says XP has access every other weekend, contact between us to be via text message or mobile phone conversation.

XP brings his g/f and g/f's DS to every drop off/pick up.

Just before the last contact, my solicitor wrote to me enclosing 2 letters XP's g/f has written on behalf of XP, asking my solicitor to demand I arrange for DD to have glasses immediately (letter says I am refusing to arrange for DD to be fitted with glasses which is complete rubbish.)
The other letter was to tell solicitor to demand I use words XP and his g/f deem appropriate for g/f's DS to overhear, since XP, his g/f and g/f's DS find my choice of language inappropriate and foul. no mention which words they are referring to.
My solicitor says she is not concerned with these letters, and has sent XP a reply stating that she is in the process of costing and closing my case.

Upon contact, XP asked if I had heard from my solicitor. I said I had. XP asked me what I thought of their requests. I said Rubbish!!

At this point, XP strapped DD into g/f's car and then shouted out of the window that he was never bringing DD back. (He has abducted her once before.)
I texted him asking if he intended upon returning DD, no response. I texted again a couple of hrs later. Again, no response.
I phoned his mobile that evening, he said he would let me know when he was ready. Hmm

I redialled his mobile twice, and both times, his g/f answered and wouldn't say anything other than XP is busy and will call back when he is good and ready!!!

XP left it until the following day to tell me he would drop DD off when the weather improved. Sad

He dropped DD back today. (I didn't notice a vast improvement in the weather between today and yesterday tbh).

In DD's bag was a letter, again written by XP's g/f, stating that XP will no longer respond to texts or phonecalls regarding any matter to do with DD, and instead will put everything in writing and expects anything I want/need to say to be in writing too. Hmm

How can this work???? If I am to write down in a letter everything that may need to be said??

XP has signed the letters his g/f has written as if they are from him.

Apparently, according to the letter in DD's bag, there are another 2 letters they have sent to my solicitor which I haven't received yet.

I feel so angry, and feel like agreeing to their ridiculous demands, just to prove how totally ridiculous they are.

Have had lots of problems with XP and his g/f, and this is just the latest in a long line. They have written to SS, my Dr, DD's HV, now my solicitor. XP claims he wants residency and his g/f is supporting him in his quest wholeheartedly. I have at least 2 meetings/assessments every week at moment to be questioned/have DD assessed due to various rubbish allegations XP and his g/f are making. None of their allegations so far have been substantiated.

Now, I don't want to take DD for drop off/pick ups anymore. Sad

Any advice? WWYD?

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portaloo · 22/12/2010 13:51

cestlavielife They mean by letter, not email or text or phone call. They said only in writing. They have written me a letter and ' look forward to my response in writing please'.

I have not penned a response in writing as of yet, even though XP is due to pick DD up again on Saturday morning.

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mamas12 · 22/12/2010 16:36

Why the hell should you.
I agree with SGB you can't be cilvil or placate thes people. The more you try to make it go their way the more they will demand.
Go legal. I would be ready by asking your solicitor if she is working Boxing Day so you could ring her as well as the police if they don't return her.

BurningBright · 22/12/2010 16:40

If you do decide to comply with the 'in writing' thing, can I suggest that you send them an email which you then print off and give to them as the hard copy letter. That way you will always have the email in your outbox and can prove what and when you wrote. They won't then be able to 'lose' the letters and then accuse you of not keeping them informed.

StuffingGoldBrass · 22/12/2010 17:14

It might be worth geting your solicitor to write to them along these lines: 'Due to your conduct and your repeated breaches of the existing order, I am stopping contact and will be applying to the court to change the arrangements to supervised contact only.
Do not attempt to contact me directly, all contact to be done through my solicitor, in writing.' Because they are in breach of court orders, by refusing to return DD and threatening and harassing you.
Then ignore any attempts to contact you, don't answer the phone or open the door to them.

portaloo · 22/12/2010 20:21

BurningBright That's a good idea that I hadn't thought of.

StuffingGoldBrass That sounds like just the sort of thing I am after. Previously, my sol advised all contact stopped, and arranged for XP to see DD in a contact centre every other week, because the situation was so volatile. XP would turn up with his g/f and park 10 feet from my front door, grinning at me while he dropped off/picked up. Sounds silly I know, but it was very volatile at the time anyway, because XP had just stolen the money from me, and this was in the first few weeks after that.
Sol wrote to my XP and advised him of the contact times at the contact centre. XP agreed to this, then 2 days before, decided it was not fair on him or DD, and it had not been passed through court so he was not obliged to adhere to it, and therefore wouldn't see DD at all instead until it all went to court. Sad Sad
XP instead, turned up at contact times, knocked on the door, said a few words, then left, and DD was left crying with me. Angry

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portaloo · 24/12/2010 21:03

Oh my goodness, just received another letter from XP and g/f, by registered post. This one says You must not begin a discussion with us in person at all, but instead, they are offering me the opportunity to attend mediation sessions which they will arrange, which will give us a chance to discuss any issues we may have, including their wish to discuss something about residency of DD.
They have sent my sol 4 letters, to pass onto me, and one of those, obviously one that I have not received yet, has details of what they are referring to wrt residency. Xmas Hmm (Residency has already been dealt with by the courts.)

They have ended the letter, demanding I reply in writing within 10 days. Xmas Shock

This is madness!! How does anyone arrange mediation? Is there usually a charge for such services?

How can we co parent under their odd list of rules?

Tomorrow is contact day, I haven't had a response from my solicitor. I don't think I can bring myself to utter a word to either of them.

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mamas12 · 25/12/2010 00:45

They are nuts aren't they.
Try not to feel so intimidated by them though, you really don't have to do what they say at all.
Leave it to your solicitor.
Is there anyone who could do the handover tomorrow.
There's no way I would respond to this at all.
They sound as though they are trying to change what has already been set by the courts because they don't like it.

They can't without going back to court, You do have to pay for mediation, but I would get your solicitor to say that they owuld have to pay for it all. Although at the moment don't agree to anything yet.
They will have such a shock though if you did, because their demands are so outrageous that the mediator will be hard to to stop the giggles tbh.
Hope you have a peaceful xmas

suburbophobe · 26/12/2010 10:36

Sorry, I haven't read all the posts, I am just outraged by your situation! I am Angry on your behalf!

If that were me, I would move and leave no forwarding address! How exactly is this situation in the best interests of your DD??

I sincerely hope it gets sorted for you!

makemineapinot · 26/12/2010 17:26

portalo Sad this sounds so much like my situation - it's hellish. My ex's GF writes to me, the school, court, my sol, anyone she can think of to tell them how vile I am etc etc and reported me to ss. he refuses to pay maintenance etc - all very horrendous and I'm sorry you;re going through the same. All i ahve sdoen in the past is to ignore them. I never ever thought I could be so rude but I can totally blank her even when she is giving me abuse/ranting/ trying to pretend sghe is all reasonable etc etc. It really really annoys her. I keep a note of everything - every encounter, abusive call, accussations, texts etc - even the pscho emails she sends my dc. Whenever I get the guff about having everything in writing I do - I refer back to the court orders he/they have broken and state my case without being abusive etc. He stopped paying maintenance and the abuse got so bad I sold up and moved 350 miles away - that has helped but not stopped the situation. Yes, agree to mediation - can't go wrong, he/they will make complete prats of himself/theirselves. My ex does this every single time we go to court. He doesn't knwo what his GF is sending me/writing to the dc etc etc and it always comes up. They also reported me to SS who investigated - I was completely cleared and they sent a report in stating it was the GF who was guilty of Domestic Violence in the form of emotional and psychological abuse.

So please don't worry about SS and mediation of you're doing nothing wrong. Write everythign down and bring it up in court.at mediation as factually as possible without slagging anyone off. They will do the hard work for you and let themselves down. Just give the judge/mediator the information and let your ex and his GF use it as ammunition against themselves. Have ot be honest though and say that moving away has been the best thing ever - my dc and I are so much happier and less stressed. Good luck x

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