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Richmond Borough Schools Chat 7

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muminlondon2 · 09/05/2015 11:29

Lots and lots of discussions on local schools and education issues preceded this thread, including Richmond Borough Schools Chat 6.

Anyone who wants to carry on that discussion, and offer information and opinions (without being moderated by any particular individual or interest group, bearing in mind all the usual mumsnet guidelines about respect and not getting personal, etc.) - feel free.

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LProsser · 24/07/2015 13:26

I'm not really convinced that Udney Park playing fields would have been secured by the EfA last year but for the alleged leak and moaning neighbours. Given the way that Imperial are now apparently trying to maximise their profits from a housing developer surely that would have been the intention all along and no one with a smaller budget has ever really stood a chance?

auntieC75 · 24/07/2015 15:46

The more one reads about free schools and how sites are obtained, it seems that the Council/Department of Education/Education Funding Agency
readily take all the praise if things go right. BUT when things go wrong none of them want to know and keep silent and will not accept criticism. I wonder if it is the same in all boroughs?

Heathclif · 24/07/2015 19:08

Lottie at the time those negotiations were taking place Imperial were in a very difficult political position with several pressure groups having been formed in relation to their plans for other sport's grounds that are used by some prestigious clubs. I know from someone involved with British Swimming who had got FINA involved, and I think British Hockey was also involved? Hence the need for confidentiality. It was one thing to divest it quietly before any of the interest groups got wind, but quite another once the cat was out of the bag. Then they had nothing to lose by pressing ahead with divesting it for the maximum gain for their core activity which is of course education. Hence this bit of latest PR. The Council Official was leaking it as all but a done deal.

Then this latest bid process was at a very bad time for the EFA, with days to go before the election purse strings would have been likely to be tighter.

Auntie it is interesting once you get involved in these things how you uncover how power really works especially at a local level. Twickenham residents have of course taken two issues where local interests were being ignored in the face of more powerful interests to Judicial Review with no success, and if the Gloriana had not been sunk by problems with it's feasibility as much as local opposition I have a feeling there would have had to be a third. The Lawyers were lined up.

muminlondon2 · 24/07/2015 20:22

The Learning Schools Trust has been mentioned in a Guardian report on Sutton Trust research into academy chains that are failing to raise standards for disadvantaged children.

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ChrisSquire2 · 01/08/2015 10:38

This week’s print RTT has Challenge to meet demand (p 15) a letter from Cllr Paul Hodgins, cabinet member for schools. He claims that the alternative sites that have been put forward were ‘known about and considered’.

auntieC75 · 01/08/2015 20:38

Perhaps he can list all the sites. Anything would have been better tha London House. Even though he states the site is of course not ideal, it seems that the Council will still condemn the Borough's children to many years of education at this dreadful site. No one will accept responsibility for this very bad purchase by the Education Funding Agency. It is really up to local parents to protest to the EFA about this rather than just accept the site.

muminlondon2 · 03/08/2015 16:49

Article in the RTT on how Kingston Council's child services (e.g. social services) have been rated good by Ofsted - they was taken over/merged with by Richmond Council under the social enterprise company, Achieving for Children.

'Inspectors said AfC chief executive Nick Whitfield showed a "determined and innovative approach" and praised other, "highly skilled" managers ... Mr Whitfield, who earns £148,263 in his current role, will soon take on extra responsibility as child services commissioner in Sunderland. He will work in the part-time role at the same time as his existing job.

AfC, which has been forced to cut £7.5m from its budget in its first three years, has also been appointed as an intervention advisor by the Department for Education, and is currently working with Doncaster and Slough councils.'

In other news, Schoolsweek reports that 'New figures have cast further doubt on the government’s assertion that becoming an academy improves schools – revealing inadequate schools have more chance of improving by staying under local authority control'.

It's a shame Richmond's sponsored academies aren't being directly managed by AfC, then.

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tazburwaiss123 · 04/08/2015 16:20

New secondary school opening in Twickenham

The Free School Trust, made up of members from Richmond upon Thames College, Harlequins, Haymarket Media Group, Waldegrave School, Achieving for Children, and Richmond Council, are building a new secondary school as part of an exciting proposal for an Education and Enterprise Campus on the Richmond upon Thames College site on Egerton Road in Twickenham. The school will have a focus on digital skills, sporting excellence and community engagement.

We're asking residents to name the school on our Facebook page! We’d love to hear your suggestion: ow.ly/PngTg

Richmond Borough Schools Chat 7
Icimoi · 06/08/2015 23:30

Hmm, that would be the AfC that has just admitted that it failed to comply with its statutory duty in relation to 40% of post 16 young people with special educational needs. They were supposed to have finalised the transfer of statements to Education, Health and Care Plans by 31st May, and admit they only did so in relation to 60% of young people. That has potentially extremely serious consequences, as it means that the vulnerable young people concerned will potentially be moving to new education placements in September without adequate and up to date support in place. Also, if any disagree with the placement named in the EHC Plan, they have no possibility of getting an appeal heard before September.

If Ofsted think that that's good, I hate to think what qualifies as requiring improvement in their book.

muminlondon2 · 07/08/2015 10:19

Interesting.

This week's RTT has two letters on this page from East Twickenham residents in response to Paul Hodgins letter last week on Deer Park School. They remind readers that the school was proposed and approved for the East Twickenham area, not for North Richmond/Kew borders, so a narrow focus on the A316 and pollution is a distraction from the real issues: this school is being set up in an area where it is not needed, despite little support, and two miles away from where it is needed.

Both suggest an alternative possible site in East Twickenham on Rosslyn Road.

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auntieC75 · 07/08/2015 10:39

No one at the Council, Dept of Education or EFA seem interested in solving this problem. Why don't any of them admit they have made a VERY big mistake in their decision to purchase the unsuitable site of London House.
This will be remembered by local people at the next Council/General Elections...Conservatives condemn Richmond & Twickenham children to be educated at an unsuitable site...probably because it was the cheapest. Tax payers are funding all of this.

ChrisSquire2 · 07/08/2015 11:30

The main letter is from Pat Kidner, a mainstay of the Richmond Environmen Trust and local resident; she lives just up the road from the sites she suggests, 11 and 13 Rosslyn Road, a council hostel and the East Twickenham Neighbourhood Association. They are both large Victorian mansions, graded as being ‘of townscape merit’ but to my eye remarkably ugly.

muminlondon2 · 07/08/2015 13:08

I keep seeing reporting (e.g. recently in the Guardian and Bloomberg) about a scandal in Malaysia. There's an indirect connection here between Bellevue Education and a company called Petrosaudi (involved in a Malaysian joint venture called 1MDB) in that a director is involved in both companies. He's not listed on Belleuve's website so perhaps he's one of the passive Swiss investors.

Petrosaudi also had a link to business activities of Tony Blair.

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ChrisSquire2 · 07/08/2015 15:33

CORRECTION: the letter in the RTT re ETNA is from Patrick Kidner, Angela’s husband, not from Angela. My apologies to them both! He is also ‘a mainstay of the Richmond Environment Trust’.

ChrisSquire2 · 11/08/2015 11:14

Sixth form colleges left on starvation rations by government cuts, says report: Survey on England’s 93 colleges shows class sizes rising, courses being dropped and seven out of 10 principals worried of inability to provide a quality education:

SFCA funding impact survey report 2015 - James Kewin and Laura Janowski, August 2015:

. . Background: cuts to Sixth Form College funding: While many parts of the education sector have had to face and adapt to funding reductions in recent years, Sixth Form Colleges have experienced deeper cuts to their budgets than any other group of institutions. In 2011, entitlement funding (used to provide tutorials, enrichment activities, additional courses etc.) was reduced from 114 hours per year to 30 hours. Sixth Form Colleges experienced, on average, a 10% reduction in their programme funding as a result. The new 16-19 funding formula introduced in September 2013 saw the average Sixth Form College lose 6% of its funding, and the reduction in funding for 18 year olds introduced in 2014 left Sixth Form Colleges, on average, a further 1.2% worse off. These averages mask the plight of some Sixth Form Colleges that will have lost a third of their funding between 2011 and 2016 . .

muminlondon2 · 12/08/2015 11:21

Interesting post here from Fiona Millar on how the government is going to provide 500 new free schools - it has changed its guidance so even new provision set up by local authorities as acaemies after a competition will be called 'free schools'. Many will, no doubt, be needed for LAs to meet their responsibilities for school planning.

However, councils will have to find the site and provide capital funding, despite having no control over governance if the sponsor doesn't prove to be very good, or popular. Parents will have no say in it either. LAs can still be overruled by the Secretary of State (but presumably not in favour of parents unless they're actually submitting a bid of their own).

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ChrisSquire2 · 14/08/2015 11:33

Today's print RTT has School place solutions cannot please everyone, a letter from from Cllr Paul Hodgins (p 16).

ChrisSquire2 · 14/08/2015 11:57

Today’s Guardian (14 August p 32) has a stack of letters about the under-funded sixth-form colleges, including this from Rev Dr Patrick Miller, former principal, Esher College (1980-98):

Owen Jones is quite right (In Britain, young people are having their future stolen, 12 August), sixth-form colleges have been a threat to selective education from the outset. Hugely popular, evidence that the comprehensive ideal could succeed brilliantly, they offered a much wider curriculum than schools; students could be “academic” or given a second chance (the pass rate for “retakes” was almost double); all could escape the constraining regime of schools and be treated as young adults.

This could never be allowed, of course. Colleges should be kept in their place by various tactics: middle-class dinner parties were frequently salted with patronage (“One hears you are amazingly successful with the less able”); they were squeezed between selective schools and fully “open access” FE colleges. In most authorities they were held back from investing in the infrastructure needed for a proper vocational curriculum; little funding tricks were used, just as they clearly are today, in order to protect the establishment fondness for secondary moderns, fee-paying and grammar schools; funding, we were told, should be per student, but schools could cross-subsidise from other years.

Sixth-form colleges have been a notable success story for the past 50 years. Clearly, that can’t be allowed to stand unopposed. People might think they were evidence that a fair, non-selective education can be a great benefit to the country, as well as an enjoyable experience for young people.

muminlondon2 · 20/08/2015 17:10

Good luck to those collecting GCSE results.

A few results for schools announced already.

Grey Court - 78% A-C inc E&M
Waldegrave - 84% A-C inc E&M

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muminlondon2 · 21/08/2015 07:58

Teddington - 74% 5A-C inc E&M
Christ's school - 65% 5A-C inc E&M (as reported by RTT)

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MrsSalvoMontalbano · 21/08/2015 09:51

Impressed at the speedy update on this thread - dedicated! Grin
I looked at the paper online and was about to come on here and update but am way behind the game Grin
What about RPA and Hampton Academy? I was accused last year of dissing RPA because it didn't get around to publishing their A*-C inc E&M until way after the cut-off date for the upcoming Year 7s to apply - which seemed cynical and tactical.
Let's hope this year they stump up quickly - since Teddington, Christ's, Waldegrave and Grey Court have been able to do so - and presumably ' awaiting re-mark' excuse would equally apply to all schools.

Would also be interesting to know about eh AS results - are they likely to be published? Would be in the interest of the new 6th forms to advertise their success rates particularly in the light of the concern around the funding gap for small 6th forms..

ChrisSquire2 · 21/08/2015 10:43

Today’s print RTT has (p 23) Council should engage more over school places, a letter from Neal & Katie Patton of East Twickenham replying to Cllr Hodgins’ letter last week and his disparaging comments re the attempt to get a bulge class at St Stephen’s.

muminlondon2 · 21/08/2015 10:50

RPA has decided not to publish the headline measures on GCSE until after queries with exam boards have been resolved

See East Sheen Village website

There are strengths in certain subjects, e.g. Pschology, Spanish, History/Geography, Biology/Chemistry, which were passed by 80% of pupils. However, some subjects (e.g. single sciences) naturally have a very high pass rate because only the most able are entered. See GCSE subject pass rates which gives provisional pass rates for single sciences of over 90%.

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muminlondon2 · 21/08/2015 10:58

dedicated!

seeking facts over spin and inaccurate reporting Wink

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MrsSalvoMontalbano · 21/08/2015 11:02

So - same spin as last year. Why are the other schools not doing the same - why would there be more queries at RPA than Christ's.
The conspicuous lack of mention of maths & English is worrying.